Best episode of the season/series, and probably my 2nd favorite 12th doctor episode to this point (after Heaven Sent).
I would argue that Bill's injury had to be that gruesome, to make it definitively clear that she would be dead without what was done to her down below. Just getting shot and falling over wouldn't have justified such a drastic procedure and it would have rang false.
I will never tire of watching reactions to the Simms reveal.... classic.
That story is fantastic....
Must be why I like it. :)
This episode won the 1996 Hugo Award for Best Dramatic Presentation, beating “The Visitor” (Star Trek: DS9), Ron Howard’s Apollo 13, the animated movie Toy Story and Terry Gilliam’s 12 Monkeys.
Wow, that's a heck of a field, I love them all! I would have gone with The Visitor, but don't begrudge B5's win a bit.
Exactly, the episode itself could be unchanged, all you'd need to do is change the title, and the perception of which story is a and which is b would flip.
I have a feeling it would be better regarded if the title was "Shiva" instead of "TKO". You mention the title and people only think of the "A" story. If the awful fighting part was the B story, and the Ivanova part the A, suddenly it's a much better episode. :)
B5! Hurray! I've missed MW since Gargoyles ended. Good to be back to a show I know (and love). I've never actually finished the series, but hope to do so before/along with Mark. I watched as it first aired, but those were the days of VCR malfunctions and such and eventually I missed so many episodes I didn't know what was going on, so I quit sometime in season 3. I later met some friends who had the whole series taped, and we started binging them together, but I moved away and lost touch before we finished season 2. Finally, I bought the DVDs years later and introduced my brother-in-law to the show, and we made it until early season 5, but with my kids getting older and staying up later, we started to lose our TV opportunities together, and haven't finished. :(
This time for sure. :)
Anyway, can't wait to see Mark react to this one.... huzzah!
Add me to the chorus of those who didn't like the first two and loved this one. For all the reasons others have listed, it finally felt like star trek.
Favorite line though: "Is that classical music?" :) Damn straight it is.
I assume Mark will do a wrap up for all of Star Trek, so I'll save my full series thoughts for then. Just for now, a THANK YOU MARK! for doing my favorite TV series of all time, daunting as it must have been.
I think it's more than a fan theory. Isn't it the premise of an Enterprise novel that semi-officially undoes all this nonsense?
Ok, it's too easy, isn't it?
(expectation spoiler for the final episode)
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