IntenseDebate Notification <DIV>Exactly, Kristallnacht!Hitlers his version of the Boy Scouts, The Hitler Youth was basically a paramilitary organization.and were encouraged to rat out their own parents and family members as well as others.</DIV> <DIV>Wicked scarey especially when you considerObama has a plan eerilly simular, compossed of > to 100,000 strong of youths primarilly comprised of "disadvantaged" and "under represented"youths.</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">

 IntenseDebate Notification <DIV> Oh I know I’m not paranoid J And I am so NOT and activist I’m just another concerned American. What I am concerned about is a government that wants to control every phase of our lives, even our health care to the point of end of life decisions which have traditionally been made between patients their families and their physician. There is absolutely No reason to mandate discussions every 5 years for seniors or sooner should there be any significant decline in health, [unless of course they plan to make determinations regarding Rx of such persons]. Doctors have been doing that for years and in the 20+ years as a practicing nurse in acute care I have reviewed Health Care Proxies w/ patients’ as part of the intake assessment. </DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">

 IntenseDebate Notification <DIV>Right! I knew that. Additionally by law they cannot dump the information which they've collected so they're in a conundrum. As much as I wanted to tell them off I resisted the impulse knowing they'd have my ip is they didn't already.</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">

When I read the article entitled; “Obama Looking For A Few Good Snitches” a chill went through me!
I have been very vocal both on blogs and publicly including “casual conversations” about my concerns for our country and mistrust of this administration. Are my emails in their data base? If so they have my IP address, know who I am, and where I live?
What are the consequences to me for exercising my first amendment rights? I have a right to know if any of my emails, or “casual conversations” of which there have been many, are in their possession. Will I be on a “no fly list”, will I be able to cross the border to visit family and friends in Canada?
This is scary; the president of the United States through his underlings is gathering information about private citizens, their emails, internet blogs and even their “casual conversations” requesting such information be sent to an official government website flag@whitehouse.gov.
What Obama has done is fascistic, unconstitutional and against the law!
Additionally the statement includes; “or through casual conversations” which broadens the search to include the entire public which means anyone that has EVER engaged in “casual conversation” critical of this administrations’ policies they want to know! Something as benign as voicing concern over the $500 billion planned cuts to Medicare or that you dare to think he may be lying to us.
One might think that since his request for spies has been publicly exposed he would be conciliatory or at the very least reticent. But Oh NO, he had the audacity and arrogance, during prime time last week to say we are to; “stop talking” and “get out of the way.” so they “can do what we need to do”. Really! I don’t think so!
As if that were not enough he then unleashed his goon squad mobs on citizens that dare to question his healthcare plan at town meetings.
Rather than presidential Obama is behaving more as a “community organizer” thug when he directs his minions to attack citizens at town meetings! Does this mean we should shut up and get out of his way? HELL NO!

We cannot let this slide; this is no mere ‘gaffe’ nor is it a harmless attempt to find out how the public feels about healthcare so they can counter attack; they have been monitoring the town meetings they already know! The mere fact they are requesting people to forward [which gives them access to IP addresses] those emails, and names, of those involved in such “casual conversations” reveals their true intent.

Gee whiz something is wrong w/ the system our string is stuttering repeating posts multiple X's! LOL
Now to get to the business at hand:
It would be laughable, [if this was not so serious a matter] to note how the left at the behest of BO are maligning and dismissing us as “extremist right-wing radicals”. When we are simply concerned American’s trying to voice their opinions. Guess the message from their beloved Fuhrer to his minions about a month prior to Election Day 2008; “I need you to go out and talk to your friends and talk to your neighbors. I want you to talk to them whether they are independent or whether they are Republican. I want you to argue with them and get in their face”. Is just harmless soft political rhetoric?
Conservatives are not the only ones angry with this administration there are many very angry moderates and liberals [even in our small community] which backed/campaigned for BO; because they were duped by him. These same people followed his lead and argued with their own families, friends and neighbors to garner support for Obama. They defended his position said he would be “good for this country”.
Oh he still has the ultra left they will go down with the ship; although some of them are ripped because he’s hasn't kept all the promises he made to them.
That aside, I am very concerned they are calling us “angry mobs”, so they will use that to silence us and take over our country by martial law.

 IntenseDebate Notification <DIV> Oh No! I understood where you were coming from, Simone. I am mad too there are times I want to throw something on the TV when I hear Obama or one of his flunkies tell bold face lies. Many of us have read enough of the House and Senate bills to know they are lying, not the one they supposedly just produced they’re keeping that a secret. Even the stimulus package had language in it pertaining to a person to oversee the health care people would receive. They won’t even reveal how much money is left from TARP what they’ve spent and who received the money. <DIV style="BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in; BORDER-TOP: medium none; PADDING-LEFT: 0in; PADDING-BOTTOM: 1pt; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-TOP: 0in; BORDER-BOTTOM: windowtext 1pt solid; mso-border-bottom-alt: solid windowtext .75pt"> I have also been one to research a politician’s background before voting but until this year have NEVER been involved enough to demonstrate but this has gotten me so riled up I just had to. They are always cameras brought to document because we know they will take any isolated incident even if it’s unrelated to the demonstrators to marginalize us an negate our message. I pray they do not get away with this the next few weeks will tell. With tax receipts well on the way to drop 18% this year, [the lowest it’s been since the Great Depression]. Yet in the face of this as well as public outcry against their programs; Obama aided by the Democrat majority in Congress surge forward in their quest to tack on more debt; have they lost their minds? Or are they intentionally trying to ruin this nation’s economy? I think both!</DIV></DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">

 IntenseDebate Notification <DIV> Agreed we do need to remain peaceful. That said, what we saw in a couple of those clips shown on TV was a little unruly but no where near violence. We saw an outburst born out of desperation, shouting resulting from a sense of helplessness and frustration. As if to say listen to me! It may have been the only outburst during the entire meeting, who knows? Think about it; these people, [as most of us here] have been calling, and writing to their representatives for months, only to be flat out ignored or placated with a lot of BS from an aide. They found their voices and wanted to be heard; was it effective that all depends on the prospective of the person who was the source of the frustration. Personally I think a calmer approach usually works best. However, I sure as heck can understand the emotion behind finally getting to see the person face to face that you’ve been trying to speak with for weeks/months. There was one woman who remained calm and respectful and clearly got her point across she waved what appeared to be a copy of the bill. Well on the news today a Democrat spokesperson maligned the demonstrators as a mob that was a bunch of right wing conservatives bussed in by the Republicans and said the woman was yelling and waving a bible. When all else fails label a person a bible thumping nut job, a favorite of the left! Guess they think anyone that carries a bible is crazy, oh well that’s me! One other thing people are reporting they have shown up for meetings with their representative only to be told there will be no questions.</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">

I too could not understand how our representatives [for the most part] could arrogantly ignore their constituents? Why weren’t they concerned w/ being booted out in 2010? I think the answer has been there all along; can it be they are not concerned because they are counting on Obama to save their sorry a$$e$? After all they are privy to information we are not. How can he protect them in 2010?
Simple, Obama can put into effect Executive Order 12919, and declare Martial Law he could then suspend the 2010 elections. He does not need congressional approval martial law suspends Constitutional law.
The Defense Authorization Act of 2006 (PL 109-364), was signed October 17, 2006, by President George W. Bush.
There is a provision within this Act to; 'Use of the Armed Forces in Major Public Emergencies', which gave the federal government a broader, stronger hand in coordinating responses ie during Hurricane Katrina where they confiscated weapons and forcibly removed people from homes that were NEVER in danger!
["On closer inspection, its language also alters the two-centuries-old Insurrection Act, which Congress passed in 1807 to limit the president’s power to deploy troops within the United States ... 'to suppress, in a State, any insurrection, domestic violence, unlawful combination, or conspiracy'," Jeff Stein, CQ National Security Editor wrote December 1, 2006.]
What’s frightening is the new language added to the list of condition; natural disaster, epidemic, or other serious public health emergency, terrorist attack or incident' broad terms which would allow a President to supersede local authority.
How does this apply to the present? The recent declaration by the WHO of a H1N1 swine flu pandemic could qualify as well as something as benign as many large peaceful gatherings could be used as an excuse to proclaim Martial Law under the guise of to “maintain public order.”

 IntenseDebate Notification <DIV>LOL your right, at first I thought I was seeing things. Tried to answer you online but was having probs w/ finding the message kept timing out so I logged off and used intense debate.</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">

 IntenseDebate Notification <DIV>I was sick for a little over a week before I even went to the doctor because I was too weak to go out.</DIV> <DIV style="FONT: 10pt arial">