American_4_ever

American_4_ever

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663 weeks ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - 3/13/09 - 3/19/09 · 0 replies · +1 points

Great idea, but I believe it is lacking in one regard. You are talking about an amendment that is introduced in Congress and voted on by Congress, by your explanation. That is where you run into a dilemma. First, you cannot expect a traitor to come out on stage and present an idea that would imprison themselves. That will never happen and quite honestly, I do not believe there are too many honest ones in D.C. Second, even if you get an honest one to introduce the idea, it will get log-jammed in a committee so it would never see the light of day.
The only way to get this done, and it would take some proper review and wording before being presented, is to introduce the idea to the States. It would call for, as the Constitution lays out in Article V., "the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments...". This is where WE come in. Through petitions, phone calls, and direct visits to our state-level representation, WE push this in each of our States. Through our We Surround Them groups, we organize, and strike. By getting 34 states to call for a Convention, WE can address the Constitutional grievances and changes we would like to see made. Changes like the 16th, 17th Amendments gone, abolish the Fed (unconstitutional via Article I, Sec. 8 - do not have the power to delegate these powers) and a properly written and defined corruption law, I believe we can get this done. I would also recommend term limits of 2 terms max for Congress. Similar to the presidency, there would need to be an outline for those who were not elected. In other words, "and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once." That allows time to get things done, but keeps the incompetence from becoming a permanent entity. It also reduces the likelihood of corruption, since there is only so much that can be done for the members of the House in four years, where the corruption is most prevalent. Especially if the 17th Amendment were done away with.
We would need 38 to vote affirmative, but it CAN be done. By WE THE PEOPLE, placing the power back in the States (as it was intended), the corruption problems are back in local control through our local state representation, and thus WE THE PEOPLE can reinstate our voices.

664 weeks ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - 3/13/09 - 3/19/09 · 0 replies · +1 points

I agree. Like I mentioned, a letter writing campaign and office visits are in order on a national scale. That is why WE must band together and ensure WE speak with one voice and do not cross our message. Our focus must be on the solutions and the debate, discussion, and concurrence be promoted and encouraged in order to strengthen this movement. Otherwise, like many others have said, we simply become like another blog site or even just another chat room.

664 weeks ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - 3/13/09 - 3/19/09 · 0 replies · +1 points

The Fair Tax is not a tax on your income, but a tax on your consumption. The Flat Tax is an income Tax. A consumption tax, however, provides for tax revenue from anyone that purchases goods in the US to include illegals, low-income on welfare, very wealthy, middle class, .....everyone. Therefore, it puts it in the hands on the citizen and not the government. Currently the government dictates how much you pay and takes it before you even see it (if you are not self-employed that is). The Fair Tax allows the citizen to keep the money earned and decide what is needed, and thus how much tax is to be paid. It allows for an opportunity to lower or abolish all other federal tax revenue streams. I, however, would demand that it did abolish the other revenue sources and provide for any new tax policies to be approved by a two-thirds approval in both houses of Congress. The same would also go for any tax rate increase.
The government of today would like to support the Fair Tax and leave the current taxes in place. So it is a requirement that WE make it difficult for them to increase taxes any more than they already are.

664 weeks ago @ Glenn Beck - The 912 P... - 3/13/09 - 3/19/09 · 7 replies · +6 points

I have read through this thread and I truly honestly believe that there is a lack of focus and ambition throughout these posts. There is so much disdain for the "other side" and so many folks willing to blame, but not offer a solution. It is time we accept and follow the 9.12 philosophy and get away from the petty arguing, because it serves us nothing but ill will and misguided directions.
I created a quote that I cannot stop thinking about when I listen to Glenn and it is this:
"It is certain that our rights are inalienable and endowed by our Creator, but we cannot take them for granted. We must seek knowledge and understanding of our history and conduct ourselves so to honor and respect the name AMERICAN!"
I believe we have all taken our rights for granted in some shape or form and it is time we get back to the way not only our Founders intended, but God intended. WE must stand up and be counted. WE must make our voices heard. WE must stop yelling to our family, complaining to our friends, and whining to our colleagues. WE must stop, pull up our boots and make an effort. I believe very strongly in the old adage, "Talk is CHEAP!" WE must DO something. WE need to focus our efforts in a manner of finding solutions, instead of yelling back and forth or preaching to the choir. Neither of those get us anywhere. WE are the ones that can make a difference and WE are the ones that can truly CHANGE the world.
Knowledge of our history can show us the way. It shows us where we made mistakes, and knowing that, we can avoid repeating it. It also shows our great victories, and knowing that, we can certainly repeat it. It is said that history repeat itself. Well, I say it is time to stop repeating the failure-history and start a new history cycle of success. It is only through the concentrated efforts of like-minded people that we can truly make a radical change for the better. The other choice is to do little to nothing, complain about it, watch and suffer while history repeats the failures over and over again.
Let's do something about it!!!
Based on the original thought posted by Glenn, I believe we all, those 9-12ers out there, are charitable, but many of us, including myself, are strapped for time and money and do not have spare of either to be charitable with. I believe the way to change that is simple, but requires a concentrated effort by all of us; The Fair Tax. WE not only have to go on a concerted letter-writing campaign, at both the state and federal levels, but we must address the issues at the ballot box. It has been far too long since the ballot had someone who represented the principles and values we believe in and it is time we look within ourselves, as a group, and redefine our politicians as representatives, like they were intended. WE cannot sit back and "hope" for someone to come along and fix it. Only WE can fix it. What do you say?