ProudPrimate

ProudPrimate

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11 years ago @ ZIONICA.com - What an atheist looks ... · 1 reply · +2 points

You are very gracious and I would add erudite.

If you would like to correspond with me, go to my website proudprimate.com and click Contact Me up in the RH corner. (zionica disallows live links — I just underlined it for clarity)

11 years ago @ ZIONICA.com - What an atheist looks ... · 0 replies · 0 points

I still find it the most useful if I can't get to a computer. Very quick, easy, quite comprehensive. I find myself pulling it off the shelf several times a year. (Compared to several times an hour for Google! LOL)

11 years ago @ ZIONICA.com - What an atheist looks ... · 0 replies · +2 points

Massive fudge factor there, Rev. "Oh, we stick in a thousand years here, and voilà! It looks pretty good."

Reminds me of this exchange in the 1988 VP debate:

MODERATOR: Tom Brokaw, a question for Senator Bentsen. State of the Economy

Q. Senator Bentsen, you were a businessman before you entered the U.S. Senate. Let me offer you an inventory, if I may - lower interest rates, lower unemployment, lower inflation and arms control deal with the Soviet Union. And now two guys come through your door at your business, and say, ''We'd like you to change,'' without offering a lot of specifics. Why would you accept their deal?

BENTSEN: You know, if you let me write $200 billion worth of hot checks every year, I could give you an illusion of prosperity too. This is an Administration that has more than doubled the national debt, and they've done that in less than eight years. They have taken this country from the No. 1 lender nation in the world to the No. 1 debtor nation in the world. And the interest on that debt next year, on this Reagan-Bush debt of the nation, is going to be $640 for every man, woman and child in America, because of this kind of a credit card mentality.

So we go out and we try to sell our securities every week, and hope that the foreigners will buy them, and they do buy them. But every time they do, we lose some of our economic independence for the future. Now they've turned around and they've bought 10 percent of the manufacturing base of this country. They bought 20 percent of the banks. They own 46 percent of the commercial real estate in Los Angeles. They're buying America on the cheap. Now, when we have other countries that can't manage their economy down in Central and South America, we send down the American ambassador, we send down the International Monetary Fund, and we tell them what they can buy and what they can sell and how to run their economies. The ultimate irony would be to have that happen to us because foreigners finally quit buying our securities.


I would add to what Bentsen said, "They have taken this country from the No. 1 EXPORTER OF FINISHED GOODS in the world to the No. 1 IMPORTER OF FINISHED GOODS in the world.

Voodoo economics, voodoo eschatology.

11 years ago @ ZIONICA.com - What an atheist looks ... · 3 replies · +2 points

I was a Christian — pentacostal — for 15 years, and where I worshipped the pastor also had a 3 year bible college operation, which I completed, but mostly I just read the bible umpteen times, expanded my Greek of which I had a year in college, my Hebrew which I started studying in 8th grade with classmate Mike Goodman, who also went through all 4 years of Latin beside me.

But I will say, this old preacher, while lacking in traditional scholarship from a secular point of view, was a truly inspired and powerful preacher, and a great-hearted man. Pastor James Roosevelt Reynolds of the Deliverance Center in Portland Maine.

I will love him and all those people till the day I die, because they were instrumental in restoring my state of mental health after a too-far excursion into psychedelics in the 60's and 70's.

My Christian experience was from '78 to '93 (the year I read Spinoza).

11 years ago @ ZIONICA.com - What an atheist looks ... · 0 replies · +2 points

hogwash. It's a waste of time talking to you

11 years ago @ ZIONICA.com - What an atheist looks ... · 1 reply · +2 points

So you'd be satisfied if before, the virus infected individuals, but after it can tap-dance, do card tricks, and excellent reupholstery of chairs you had already given up on. Only $19.95. Call now!

And since the world is only xx thousand years old, clearly that's required, because the slow, steady, effective process that 99% of the trained scientists insist happened over hundreds of millions of years is blocked by our clever stragedy. We've tied your hands so you can't appeal to that logic. Therefore we can spit on your admitted evidence of micro-evolution, because — time's up! You have to have macro in 2 years or we win! HaHaHaHaHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!

11 years ago @ ZIONICA.com - What an atheist looks ... · 0 replies · 0 points

As a persecuted minority, they were endeavoring to encourage one another to be courageous and stand up for what they believe, or rather, their right not to believe what the majority foists upon them.

11 years ago @ ZIONICA.com - What an atheist looks ... · 1 reply · +2 points

As I said in a post above to Disgusted,

I get emails from a lot of conservative websites, which started appearing after I posted a comment on Town Hall, on an article I found on Google News, which is my home page.

I don't comment on those articles in general, or even read them. But when they make unkind remarks about me, as "No Good Atheists" by Wes Moore a couple of weeks ago, and then this one here, I admit, I feel obligated to stand up for myself, because I am a highly ethical and conscientious man. I reserve the right to be offended when someone ignorantly impugns my honor.

I'm quite happy to tolerate freedom of religion for all, and I admire many who actually live the benign life Jesus taught.

But far too many of the Christians today are more Pharisee than Disciple. As Dr. Cornel West says, there's a difference between prophetic Christian and Constantinian Christian.

11 years ago @ ZIONICA.com - What an atheist looks ... · 0 replies · +1 points

I can speak to that question in the last paragraph.

I get emails from a lot of conservative websites, which started appearing after I posted a comment on Town Hall, on an article I found on Google News, which is my home page.

I don't comment on those articles in general, or even read them. But when they make unkind remarks about me, as "No Good Atheists" by Wes Moore a couple of weeks ago, and then this one here, I admit, I feel obligated to stand up for myself, because I am a highly ethical and conscientious man. I reserve the right to be offended when someone ignorantly impugns my honor.

Don't you?

P.S., I salute you for your first and second paragraphs in which I take you to mean, you are not given to prejudging people by labels but you live by "by their fruits ye shall know them." I subscribe to that mind as well.

I think Chris was mistaken in thinking you were attacking him. I hope I was right about that.

11 years ago @ ZIONICA.com - What an atheist looks ... · 1 reply · +1 points

excellent points, Jeff