... and a lot better than the $60 we were frozen at when the sale was made to Onex, but I've never counted on Boeing/Spirit to fund my retirement either so all is still good. Congrats on the contract.
Congrats to all of you. I hope the contract is what you want and all goes well.
It has been interesting reading the comments for me since I work for another company, the name changed with the sale and that is about all though. Anyway, stay safe, and remember to enjoy life and family. No man on his deathbed ever wished he would have spent more time at work...........
We have seen the out sourcing of jobs that move parts within the factory at the company I work for. The people moving the parts are clueless on how to move anything without damaging the parts. Their turnover is high so experienced help within the contractor's group is minimal. These people do not follow any rules in regard to driving and appear to care less. It was extremely sad to see a company manager tout how much they were saving and not also showing all of the issues they were creating. They are saving money in wages, but the wages being paid allow the contract employee to get fed up and go find another job easily at the same or better wage. It is not a career job for most of these people.
They could just as easily outsource any job, but you get what you pay for, both in performance and loyalty to the company.
Bothellben - This is very similar to the individual that crossed in '95 and everyone was supportive of him. He didn't just walk across, he talked with people and tried everything to stay out. It just wasn't possible. No one ever said a negative word that I am aware of.
Sorry scychan, IT is going to India.
Well, most of your posts remind me of the ID-10-T errors as far as being of value. Ah, maybe I should remind jt to remove the dashes and replace 10 with io in that error message.
jtwoods: I've known of several situations where an employee who crossed the line was called a SCAB, and I also know of employees who did holding up their paychecks to show strikers as they crossed the line. These people get the treatment they deserve.
I've also known of one instance that an employee crossed after talking with his co-workers and was treated very well. He did not have an option to stay out and the Union recognized that. The Union had tried to help, but this was an instance out of everyone's control. He felt ashamed of the situation, but people understood what was happening. Some may think he should have stayed out, and I know that is what he was wanting to do, but wants are sometimes overruled. I am just glad the Union understood and showed that they truly cared for a brother in serious difficulty.
wolfshead - you have to remember that the contract was voted against by the membership and the strike authorized by the membership. You cannot assume that people will lay down because the company tells you that it is a good contract. The process is a negotiation between TWO entities that have both common and different goals. One of the common goals is a ratified contract, another is a company that is solvent and producing profits that ALL can share in. When one party wants to implement something that is damaging to the other, you can bet that the damaged party will object with the legal tools at their disposal. From what I see, Boeing and the Union leadership are looking out for what they feel are their best (company's and union membership) interests, and hopefully they are finding compromises that will result in a ratified contract. No one wants a strike IMO.
Because the vast majority of people have never worked for Boeing and really don't have a clue. They look at the hourly wage, then look at their own and based on that the IAM appears "greedy". If someone were to work for Boeing, then maybe they would understand the issues that are actually involved. Saying that, I would still rather work for Boeing than the company they sold us to. Also as I said in another reply above, look out for 2010, because I foresee the company I work for getting hit with an IAM strike.
Devils Advocate: The problem with continuing to build is with the cash flow.
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