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6 hours ago @ http://www.conservativ... - WATCH: "We must not in... · 0 replies · +1 points

I agree.

6 hours ago @ http://www.conservativ... - WATCH: "We must not in... · 0 replies · +1 points

I agree.

And I noticed that Gove insisted on distancing but did not comment on essential/non-essential purposes. Progress!

However, I fear the the "cure" has already caused more harm than Coronavirus.

1 day ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Will Green: I’m a La... · 0 replies · +1 points

Again, you misunderstand. The 50m who pay the extra £50 per week in tax are also receiving the extra £50 UBI. So their net tax position is neutral!!!

You really should think about this seriously.

1 day ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Coronavirus Count · 0 replies · +1 points

You still have the problem that I may test negative today, but contract the virus tomorrow. How often do you think we should be re-tested?

1 day ago @ http://www.conservativ... - WATCH: Hancock warns a... · 0 replies · +1 points

I think people would accept stricter enforcement of distancing, if their motives for being somewhere other than 'at home' were not questioned. Distance is an observable fact. The reason for being somewhere is not.

5 days ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Will Green: I’m a La... · 0 replies · +1 points

I sit in the middle. UBI should replace "most" benefits. There will remain special cases - particularly around disability (where costs are disproportionately placed on those affected through no fault of their own).

5 days ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Will Green: I’m a La... · 2 replies · +1 points

"...If services were free then they would obviously just deteriorate over time, because there is no medium of exchange being used to quantify them..."

Which is precisely why UBI is better than UBS!

"...And if you give 50m people £50 per week, that's 125 billion a year. So that obviously isn't going to happen. It's not exactly the hardest argument to shoot down, is it?...."

Er? No! Most of those 50m will pay an extra £50 a week in tax!

5 days ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Will Green: I’m a La... · 0 replies · +1 points

Kate. Your simple calculation might equally suggest that today the government is foregoing 52m x 12.5k (650bn) to 'pay' for the personal tax allowance.

You seem to miss the fundamental point that for the vast majority of those 52m there will be no change, as UBI is clawed back through taxation. UBI helps those whose circumstances change. eg if you are made redundant, you will still have some cash coming in while you search for work, without having to wait for the welfare system to catch up with your changed status. (Which has been the biggest problem with UC).

And, as others have pointed out, UBI is "more Conservative" than UBS as it still promotes efficiency in the services market.

6 days ago @ http://www.conservativ... - WATCH: Gove - "We hope... · 0 replies · +1 points

"I didn't know that government ministers were now supposed to be epidemiologists now..."

I agree. But Gove's specific problem is that he has a history of dismissing the wisdom of "experts"

6 days ago @ http://www.conservativ... - WATCH: Ashworth - "The... · 1 reply · +1 points

"...What he fails to understand is that what is essential in certain contexts is not so in others. There has to be a certain amount of flexibility therefore and a need to be responsive to the need for change when necessary...."

Spot on. Here are two very simplistic examples:

1) A family self-isolates... but their boiler fails. Are they expected to continue without heating/hot water? (repeat for freezer)

2) A home worker's router fails... can they source a new one?

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