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		<description>Comments by Tinny Ray Liberty</description>
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<title>elephant journal: Yoga, Sustainability, Politics, Spirituality. : Mao, Stalin, Hitler: they&#039;re back in style. [NYT]</title>
<link>http://www.elephantjournal.com/2008/08/mao-stalin-hitler-theyre-back-in-style-nyt/#IDComment870161903</link>
<description>Nice article, including the pics showing the stiff-armed gesture to flags and socialists in the worship of government. Your readers might enjoy learning how the USA&amp;#039;s Pledge of Allegiance was the origin of the Nazi salute and Nazi behavior (that is one of the amazing discoveries of the historian Dr. Rex Curry, as described in the author Ian Tinny&amp;#039;s book &amp;quot;Pledge of Allegiance + Swastika Secrets.&amp;quot; It was the national socialism of Francis Bellamy (author of the Pledge of Allegiance), and his cousin Edward Bellamy. </description>
<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2014 10:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Jewish Daily Forward : Jewish Prison Guard Investigated for Nazi Salute in Lisbon &ndash; Forward.com</title>
<link>http://forward.com/articles/195936/jewish-prison-guard-investigated-for-nazi-salute-i/#IDComment814214420</link>
<description>Governments mandated the salute in the past, then governments banned the salute.   In the US and Germany and other countries, the gesture was mandated by law. The US&amp;#039;s Pledge of Allegiance was the origin of the salute and of the horrid behavior that accompanied it (see the discoveries of the historian Dr. Rex Curry).  People who refused to perform the salute and the robotic chanting to the flag on cue in government schools were persecuted. Children were taken from parents, people were beaten, arrested, imprisoned, and worse. </description>
<pubDate>Sat, 5 Apr 2014 09:26:53 +0000</pubDate>
<guid>http://forward.com/articles/195936/jewish-prison-guard-investigated-for-nazi-salute-i/#IDComment814214420</guid>
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<title>http://pledge-allegiance.blogspot.com/ : Edward Bellamy, Francis Bellamy, American Nazism &amp; the Pledge of Allegiance</title>
<link>http://pledge-of-allegiance.blogspot.ca/2012/06/edward-bellamy-francis-bellamy-american.html#IDComment384885797</link>
<description>Remove the pledge from the flag. Remove the flag from schools. Remove schools from government.  You know whats disrespectful to yourself and to freedom ? NOT burning flags   Best protest I ever saw was in Eugene Oregon. A friend of mine went on a rant at a poetry read about our lack of freedom, burnt the flag and then wiped his ass with the ballot that Oregon had sent him to vote on!   &amp;quot;Flags are bits of colored cloth that governments use first to shrink-wrap people&amp;rsquo;s minds &amp;amp; then as ceremonial shrouds to bury the dead.&amp;quot;~ A. Roy </description>
<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 17:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
<guid>http://pledge-of-allegiance.blogspot.ca/2012/06/edward-bellamy-francis-bellamy-american.html#IDComment384885797</guid>
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<title>http://pledge-allegiance.blogspot.com/ : Edward Bellamy, Francis Bellamy, American Nazism &amp; the Pledge of Allegiance</title>
<link>http://pledge-of-allegiance.blogspot.ca/2012/06/edward-bellamy-francis-bellamy-american.html#IDComment384885598</link>
<description>Flag Day was started by that scumbag Woodrow Wilson in 1916 when he designated June 14 national Flag Day, and the President persecuted people for refusing to do the Nazi salute and the mechanical ritual. US citizens were beaten, expelled, jailed, imprisoned, even lynched for refusing to do the Nazi salute and chant robotically. Now, Flag Day and the Pledge of Allegiance are part of the USA&amp;#039;s police state. Wilson also got the USA into WWI so that Americans could commit murder and also be murdered. No one should submit to &amp;quot;flag day&amp;quot; and no one should stand for the Pledge of Allegiance because the Pledge was the origin of the Nazi salute and Nazi behavior (see the work of the historian Dr. Rex Curry).    The daily robotic chanting might be a great idea in that it provides students with a daily opportunity to sit out the pledge and show contempt for the USA&amp;#039;s police state. Students can remind the adults that other Americans have given their lives and freedom and made sacrifices so that others can refuse the daily robotic brainwashing in government schools (socialist schools). The two-word deification is only a tiny part of the pledge&amp;#039;s horrid problems. </description>
<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 17:54:29 +0000</pubDate>
<guid>http://pledge-of-allegiance.blogspot.ca/2012/06/edward-bellamy-francis-bellamy-american.html#IDComment384885598</guid>
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<title>Framework : Changing the flag salute</title>
<link>http://framework.latimes.com/2012/06/19/changing-the-flag-salute#IDComment384687054</link>
<description>The Pledge of Allegiance was the origin of the Nazi salute and Nazi behavior (see the work of the historian Dr. Rex Curry). The photos show them trying to cover-up the fact that the pledge salute was performed exactly as the German national socialist salute. The quote shows how they are covering up the pledge as the origin &amp;quot;The old method of extending the hand toward the flag was criticized by several national patriotic groups as being too much like the Nazi and Fascist salutes.&amp;quot; There are photos and video that show the exact use of the same gesture. The sad part is that it was covered up so well that even today&amp;#039;s journalists cannot address the topic, as seen above. Francis Bellamy and Edward Bellamy were American national socialists who influenced German national socialists, their rituals, dogma, and symbols (including the use of the swastika as crossed S-letters for &amp;quot;socialism&amp;quot; under the National Socialist German Workers Party, another discovery by Dr. Curry). </description>
<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2012 12:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
<guid>http://framework.latimes.com/2012/06/19/changing-the-flag-salute#IDComment384687054</guid>
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<title>American Vision : The Forgotten History of the Pledge of Allegiance</title>
<link>http://americanvision.org/2004/post/forgotten-history-of-pledge-of-allegiance/#IDComment78954387</link>
<description>American national socialists (including Edward Bellamy), in cooperation with Madame Blavatsky and the Theosophical Society, popularized the use of the Swastika (an ancient symbol) as a modern symbol for socialism long before the symbol was adopted by the National Socialist German Workers Party (Nazis) and used on its flag. &lt;a href=&quot;http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-swastika.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://rexcurry.net/book1a1contents-swastika.html&lt;/a&gt;  See also &lt;a href=&quot;http://rexcurry.net/45th-infantry-division-swastika-sooner-soldiers.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://rexcurry.net/45th-infantry-division-swasti...&lt;/a&gt;  The Bellamys influenced the National Socialist German Workers Party and its dogma, rituals and symbols (e.g. robotic collective chanting to flags; and the modern use of the swastika as crossed S-letters for &amp;quot;Socialism&amp;quot; under German National Socialism). Similar alphabetical symbolism was used under the NSDAP for the &amp;quot;SS&amp;quot; division, the &amp;quot;SA,&amp;quot; the &amp;quot;NSV,&amp;quot; et cetera and similar symbolism is visible today as the  VW logo (the letters &amp;quot;V&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;W&amp;quot; joined for &amp;quot;Volkswagen&amp;quot;). &lt;a href=&quot;http://rexcurry.net/bookchapter4a1a2a1.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://rexcurry.net/bookchapter4a1a2a1.html&lt;/a&gt;  The Bellamys wanted the government to take over all food, clothing, shelter, goods and services and create an &amp;quot;industrial army&amp;quot; to impose their &amp;quot;military socialism.&amp;quot; See the video documentary at  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BssWWZ3XEe4&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BssWWZ3XEe4&lt;/a&gt;  It is the same dogma that led to the socialist Wholecaust (of which the Holocaust was a part): ~60 million killed under the former Union of Soviet Socialist Republics; ~50 million under the Peoples&amp;#039; Republic of China; ~20 million under the National Socialist German Workers&amp;#039; Party. &lt;a href=&quot;http://rexcurry.net/socialists.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://rexcurry.net/socialists.html&lt;/a&gt;  Today, the flag symbolizes authoritarianism in the USA. The historical facts above explain the enormous size and scope of government today, and the USA&amp;#039;s police state, and why it is growing so rapidly.  They are reasons for minarchy: massive reductions in government, taxation, spending and socialism.  </description>
<pubDate>Mon, 7 Jun 2010 14:18:26 +0000</pubDate>
<guid>http://americanvision.org/2004/post/forgotten-history-of-pledge-of-allegiance/#IDComment78954387</guid>
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<title>American Vision : The Forgotten History of the Pledge of Allegiance</title>
<link>http://americanvision.org/2004/post/forgotten-history-of-pledge-of-allegiance/#IDComment78954357</link>
<description>The Pledge of Allegiance was the origin of the Nazi salute (and the swastika -although an ancient symbol- was used to represent crossed S-shapes for &amp;quot;socialism&amp;quot; under the National Socialist German Workers Party).  Francis Bellamy (cousin of author Edward Bellamy) was a socialist in the Nationalism movement and authored the Pledge of Allegiance (1892), the origin of the stiff-armed salute adopted much later by the National Socialist German Workers Party. See the work of the symbologist Dr. Rex Curry. &lt;a href=&quot;http://rexcurry.net/pledge2.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://rexcurry.net/pledge2.html&lt;/a&gt;  See the image at &lt;a href=&quot;http://rexcurry.net/pledge_of_allegiance.jpg&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://rexcurry.net/pledge_of_allegiance.jpg&lt;/a&gt;  The early American stiff-armed salute was not an ancient Roman salute. That is a myth debunked by Dr. Curry, who showed that the myth came from the Pledge and from various facts including that Francis Bellamy grew up in Rome, N.Y., not Rome, Italy, and thereafter the Pledge salute was repeated in early films (some showing fictional scenes of ancient Rome). The reasons above and more led to the American stiff-armed salute being picked up later by German socialists and the National Socialist German Workers Party (under the influence of Adolf Hitler and the U.S. citizen and Harvard grad Ernst Hanfstaengl, a confidant of Hitler) and by Italian socialists under Benito Mussolini (who discovered the salute while he gained power as a socialist journalist writing for socialist newspapers, and later became an ally of the National Socialist German Workers Party). &lt;a href=&quot;http://rexcurry.net/pledgerome.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://rexcurry.net/pledgerome.html&lt;/a&gt;  Francis Bellamy never used the term &amp;quot;Roman salute&amp;quot; when describing his pledge&amp;#039;s salute and he was not influenced by Jacques-Louis David&amp;#039;s painting &amp;quot;Oath of the Horatii.&amp;quot; One reason why Francis Bellamy never used the term &amp;quot;Roman salute&amp;quot; in any way is because the concept of the &amp;quot;Roman salute&amp;quot; did not exist when Bellamy wrote his pledge and for decades thereafter.   &lt;a href=&quot;http://rexcurry.net/roman-salute-oxford-english-dictionary.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://rexcurry.net/roman-salute-oxford-english-d...&lt;/a&gt;  Francis Bellamy clearly explained that his pledge began with a military salute that was then extended out toward the flag. In practice, the second gesture was performed palm-down with a stiff-arm when the military salute was merely pointed out at the flag by disinterested children forced to do Bellamy&amp;#039;s programmed chanting daily in government schools. That is how the straight-arm salute developed from Francis Bellamy&amp;#039;s Pledge of Allegiance and its use of the military salute (and how the USA&amp;#039;s Pledge salute led to the Nazi salute). &lt;a href=&quot;http://rexcurry.net/pledge_military.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://rexcurry.net/pledge_military.html&lt;/a&gt;  That the concept of the &amp;quot;Roman salute&amp;quot; did not exist when Bellamy wrote his pledge (and for decades thereafter) also means that the concept of the &amp;quot;Roman salute&amp;quot; did not even exist when Jacques-Louis David lived and painted &amp;quot;Oath of the Horatii&amp;quot; and thus David was thinking of a real or imagined &amp;quot;Roman salute&amp;quot; when he painted the Horatii, nor did David ever use the term &amp;quot;Roman salute.&amp;quot; The Horatii lie (that the painting was the origin of the &amp;quot;Roman salute&amp;quot; myth) first appeared on Wikipedia, deliberately fabricated by a liar to cover-up Dr. Curry&amp;#039;s discovery that the Pledge was the origin of the Nazi salute. In the painting, 3 brothers are reaching for weapons (and the two figures in back are reaching with their left hands). The same liar who created the Horatii lie had, until he was debunked, previously claimed that the stiff-armed salute was an actual ancient Roman salute, and he posted the lie that Roman statues displaying &amp;quot;adlocutio&amp;quot; (a gesture made by a person speaking) showed &amp;quot;ancient Roman salutes.&amp;quot;  The newly substituted Horatii lie has been mindlessly repeated by many people (as the adlocutio lie was repeated and still is) because wakipedia glorifies itself as an encyclopedia, even though it is merely an anonymous bulletin board where anyone can post anything. &lt;a href=&quot;http://rexcurry.net/pledge_of_allegiance_videos_images.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://rexcurry.net/pledge_of_allegiance_videos_i...&lt;/a&gt; </description>
<pubDate>Mon, 7 Jun 2010 14:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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