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<title>Craig Murray : AV Referendum and Nick Clegg</title>
<link>http://craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/04/av-referendum-and-nick-clegg/#IDComment144947111</link>
<description>but they have done those terrible things. They banned the construction of minarets, right? Which made liberals the world over howl.  Then they voted to deported convicted foreigners.   I could go on.   But the British public are completely incapable of telling when Clegg or Cameron are lying through their teeth so they&amp;#039;d continually be suckered into imperialistic wars and other things about which they know essentially nothing: Saddams nukes, Qhaddafi killing his one people, etc.. That is where direct democracy of any kind fails. But the Swiss as I&amp;#039;ve pointed out, having a purely defensive military, do not have to decide such questions.  Liberals certainly don&amp;#039;t want any kind of real democracy, or referendums or any other arrangements that would prevent them using political correctness to bludgeon the public into accepting what the public knows perfectly well is contrary to their interest.   </description>
<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 23:42:27 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Craig Murray : AV Referendum and Nick Clegg</title>
<link>http://craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/04/av-referendum-and-nick-clegg/#IDComment144671378</link>
<description>Hey Clark, I was only kidding.   All I know about Chelmsford is that Charles Dickens visited the town in 1835 while covering an election as a news reporter. His verdict was that it was the &amp;quot;dullest and most stupid spot on the face of the earth.&amp;quot;   However, judging by the Wikipedia article, it actually seems like a really interesting place. It must have  changed since the 1830&amp;#039;s, and perhaps Dickens was in a foul mood when he visited. </description>
<pubDate>Thu, 21 Apr 2011 01:03:01 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Craig Murray : AV Referendum and Nick Clegg</title>
<link>http://craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/04/av-referendum-and-nick-clegg/#IDComment144554502</link>
<description>Sounds like a good idea. I&amp;#039;d vote to send Tony Blair, David Cameron and Nick Clegg to the Tower as war criminals -- which is why no such scheme in any meaningful form will ever arise.  </description>
<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 16:11:02 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Craig Murray : AV Referendum and Nick Clegg</title>
<link>http://craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/04/av-referendum-and-nick-clegg/#IDComment144554164</link>
<description>If you define a constituency in terms of &amp;quot;a few tens of kilometres&amp;quot; your talking the whole of the UK! So what you really want is to turn the election into a national referendum and then have the parties select their own MPs according to their share of the national vote. Funny thing is, the Scots don&amp;#039;t vote the same as the English or the Welsh, and the people in clapped out places like Wigan don&amp;#039;t vote the same as the geniuses of finance who commute to the city from Surrey and the home counties. And as I recall, the folks in Devon regard the Cornish a bunch of foreigners. So your idea that there is no merit in local representation seems mistaken.  </description>
<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 16:09:34 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Craig Murray : AV Referendum and Nick Clegg</title>
<link>http://craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/04/av-referendum-and-nick-clegg/#IDComment144552721</link>
<description>If you have a constituency with three of four MPs you finish up by electing jerks like Nick Griffin. LOL.    Anyway, when you talk of constituencies with multiple representatives, you&amp;#039;re talking about populations of up to half a million or more, which makes nonsense of the idea of local representation.     You might as well have a national referendum and then allow the parties to pick their own MPs according to their share of the national vote. Which would be a total trashing of the British Parliamentary system of government.     The problem is that no one really trusts a liberal, for obvious reasons -- think Clegg -- so the Liberal candidates come in second or third nearly everywhere.     So why not just accept it: If people wanted a liberal government they&amp;#039;d vote for the bastards. </description>
<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 16:03:49 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Craig Murray : AV Referendum and Nick Clegg</title>
<link>http://craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/04/av-referendum-and-nick-clegg/#IDComment144551161</link>
<description>Oh, the folks in Chelmsford can be relied on to vote sensibly on whether they agree to the construction of additional minarets, whether women should dress like pillar boxes and stuff like that.   But the thing is, Switzerland is not an empire or the sidekick of any empire, so the Swiss don&amp;#039;t have to decide difficult questions such as whether Col. Qhaddafi is killing his own people in defiance of international law, or simply putting down a CIA inspired insurrection as any legitimate government is permitted to do under international law.  </description>
<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 15:56:42 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Craig Murray : AV Referendum and Nick Clegg</title>
<link>http://craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/04/av-referendum-and-nick-clegg/#IDComment144361934</link>
<description>Total rubbish. You get to vote for your own constituency representative, and that&amp;#039;s it. That&amp;#039;s the constitutional basis on which MP&amp;#039;s are picked. Parliament is not designed to serve in place of a plebiscite on specific issues. </description>
<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 01:01:08 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Craig Murray : AV Referendum and Nick Clegg</title>
<link>http://craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/04/av-referendum-and-nick-clegg/#IDComment144361596</link>
<description>Britain has a representative democracy. That means every constituency elects its own representative to speak for the particular interests and issues of the people of that constituency.        If people wanted a Liberal representative they&amp;#039;d vote for one. PR is a Liberal scam to steal seats from more popular -- which is to say more representative -- candidates.    Referendums would lead to chaos. What do folks in Chelmsford or anywhere else know about human rights in Libya? Essentially, nothing, obviously -- other than the lies told them by Clegg, and Cameron on instructions from Rupert Murdoch and the Conservative/Liberal/BNP/Whatever Friends of Israel.     What&amp;#039;s needed is an honest system of government, which means that governments would be compelled to state the real reasons for their actions. How that would be imposed, I am not sure, but lopping a few heads at the Tower would seem like a good start. Tony Blair, one might expect, would have a good one-liner to please the crowd as he mounted the scaffold. </description>
<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 00:59:35 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Craig Murray : AV Referendum and Nick Clegg</title>
<link>http://craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/04/av-referendum-and-nick-clegg/#IDComment144357967</link>
<description>All that proportional rep gets you is Nick Griffin as a MEP on, what was it, eight percent of the vote.    </description>
<pubDate>Wed, 20 Apr 2011 00:42:20 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Craig Murray : The Turner Contemporary</title>
<link>http://craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/04/the-turner-contemporary/#IDComment143901348</link>
<description>Thanks for the info about Turners at the Tate, which I had thought was devoted solely to the celebration of &lt;a href=&quot;http:\/\/www.city-journal.org\/html\/8_1_urbanities-trash.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;mass murderers and deviationism of every kind&lt;/a&gt;. If I have a hour when next in town, I have to try to take it in. </description>
<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2011 15:11:00 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Craig Murray : The Turner Contemporary</title>
<link>http://craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/04/the-turner-contemporary/#IDComment143899365</link>
<description>Ha! Well if the contents are as crap as the building they might as well turn the building into low-cost housing for unemployed illegal immigrants. The public would then feel they had got something for their money.   Or maybe turn it into a gaol for war criminals. I think that would pull in a crowd, with Tony Blair, Cam, Clegg in striped suits and chains. Outside each cage  there could be an audio visual display, showing collateral damage to small children by high explosive, or the dispersal of DU aerosols in the environment and their genetic effects, etc., etc. It should do a lot of good for the local economy. </description>
<pubDate>Mon, 18 Apr 2011 15:04:48 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Craig Murray : The Turner Contemporary</title>
<link>http://craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/04/the-turner-contemporary/#IDComment143545137</link>
<description>Well don&amp;#039;t they have any Turners?    I mean, it&amp;#039;s the pictures, surely, that should be the main attraction.    I&amp;#039;d even contemplate a visit to Ramsgate -- might even spend a coupla quid on fish and chips -- if they had a decent collection of Turners.    True the gallery looks like a factory farm: &lt;a href=&quot;http:\/\/www.turnercontemporary.org\/about\/our-gallery&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.turnercontemporary.org/about/our-galle...&lt;/a&gt;    But since no one pays any attention to the heir to the throne&amp;#039;s sensible views on architecture, what can you expect. Maybe the council could employ a bunch of artists to paint the outside: really big murals.    But, anyhow, if you can see the pictures, shouldn&amp;#039;t that be a sufficient reason to come?    I understand though that Turner used unconventional pigments like toothpaste and custard power, which faded badly, so maybe there&amp;#039;s much of Turner left to see. His stuff looked kind of faded to start with (as confirmed by this example in my personal collection: &lt;a href=&quot;http:\/\/shelbournestreetgallery.com\/Image\/show_full\?id=28%29&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://shelbournestreetgallery.com/Image/show_ful...&lt;/a&gt;. </description>
<pubDate>Sun, 17 Apr 2011 02:55:50 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Craig Murray : Clusters of Hypocrisy</title>
<link>http://craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/04/clusters-of-hypocrisy/#IDComment143407932</link>
<description>&amp;quot;The use of cluster bombs by Gadaffi forces is wrong&amp;quot;  I don&amp;#039;t see why. That is, I don&amp;#039;t see why killing someone with a cluster bomb is any worse than killing them with, say, white phosphorus or napalm, or just a piece of lead.   I understand that unexploded bomblets may pose a hazard to non-combatants long after the conflict, but the same is true of any kind of unexploded ordnance. And DU weapons pose a hazard to everyone for all time.   But in any case, the time delay in the collateral damage seems unimportant. It could have been of no comfort to civilians in Gaza or Fallujah hit by white phosphorus to know that combatants were suffering the same hideous fate at the same time.  What needs to be recognized is that when people start wars, and in this case it appears that the war was started by covert CIA and probably French and British  operations in Libya, people, including non-combatants get killed, often in horrible ways.    </description>
<pubDate>Sat, 16 Apr 2011 16:07:34 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Craig Murray : How Long Will Vince Cable Stick In?</title>
<link>http://craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/04/how-long-will-vince-cable-stick-in/#IDComment143141264</link>
<description>What do you mean Craig, when you talk about &amp;quot;Tory immigrant baiting&amp;quot;?   Cameron has indicated that net immigration should be reduced from hundreds of thousands to tens of thousands, which is, consistent with the wishes of the great majority of British people.   Is that what you call &amp;quot;immigrant baiting&amp;quot;?  And if so, are you saying that liberal &amp;quot;principles&amp;quot; must trump the wishes of the public?  And if so, is it not the case that liberalism as you champion it is a fundamentally undemocratic ideology?   </description>
<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 15:30:14 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Craig Murray : Oh Look, An Election is Coming</title>
<link>http://craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/04/oh-look-an-election-is-coming/#IDComment142965172</link>
<description>&amp;quot;as if Britain or any other country has ever been anything but multicultural, with all kinds of different cultures, ethnic groups, languages, religions and customs.&amp;quot;  Are you kidding? Or is your conception of history restricted to the last 25 years?  As far as I recall from my childhood in Devon, the only language anyone spoke was Devon, as in &amp;quot;you&amp;#039;m be a flipping idjit, if you think there be Russians and Chinese and curry eating Indians in our village.&amp;quot; And we&amp;#039;d have been fair mazed at the suggestion that there&amp;#039;d be Muzlims or Buddists livin&amp;#039; in those there parts. &amp;quot;   When I was eight, I was taken to the Festival of Britain (London 1951) and at on epoint my mother remarked &amp;quot;look, there&amp;#039;s a black man&amp;quot;. I looked, and sure enough, there was a man who was black. The reason for pointing him out, was simply the novelty of it, since, I doubt my mother had seen a black person before, and certainly I had not. </description>
<pubDate>Fri, 15 Apr 2011 01:10:03 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Craig Murray : For Cengiz Songur</title>
<link>http://craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/04/for-cengiz-songur/#IDComment140567190</link>
<description>Hey Craig, that&amp;#039;s one thing we agree on for sure.  </description>
<pubDate>Wed, 6 Apr 2011 21:01:37 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Craig Murray : Whistleblowers Not Welcome at New Statesman/Frontline Debate</title>
<link>http://craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/04/whistleblowers-not-welcome-at-new-statesmanfrontline-debate/#IDComment140526283</link>
<description>&amp;quot;It&amp;#039;s no secret that the US government is trying to get Assange and others at Wikileaks implicated as co-conspirators with Bradley Manning&amp;quot;  Yer think?   Or maybe they just have to pretend to &amp;quot;get Asssange.&amp;quot; I know when the try to nail someone like Gaddafi they finish up killing a million or so innocent victims first. But they could surely nail Assange if they wanted. Instead the seem content to build up his cred by ineffectively trying to &amp;quot;get him.&amp;quot;  Maybe the Organizers of this whistle blowing fest thought it was too rich having two Sam Anson Award winners (&amp;quot;for integrity in intelligence&amp;quot;, yes intelligence, not whistle blowing) on the same panel.  </description>
<pubDate>Wed, 6 Apr 2011 17:39:03 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Craig Murray : Ivory Coast Tragedy</title>
<link>http://craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/04/ivory-coast-tragedy/#IDComment140524375</link>
<description>Good speech by Geert Wilders to the Magna Carta Foundation, in which he talks of the transformation of the nation state:   &lt;a href=&quot;http://canspeccy.blogspot.com/2011/04/failure-of-multiculturalism-and-how-to.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://canspeccy.blogspot.com/2011/04/failure-of-...&lt;/a&gt;  &amp;quot;The EU&amp;rsquo;s aim, meanwhile, seems to be to destroy the old sovereign nations and replace them by new provincial identities, which are all clones of each other. Britanistan will not differ from Netherlandistan, nor Germanistan from Italiastan, or any other province of the European superstate in the making.&amp;quot;  Although if the advocates of petty nationalism get their way it will not be Britanistan but Scotchistan, Welshistan and Anglostan. </description>
<pubDate>Wed, 6 Apr 2011 17:29:22 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Craig Murray : Ivory Coast Tragedy</title>
<link>http://craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/04/ivory-coast-tragedy/#IDComment140318017</link>
<description>They call themselves liberals or are generally understood to be liberals, so that&amp;#039;s what liberals are, so far as I am concerned.                 Anyhow, what is this pure and uncontaminated thing, a &amp;quot;genuine liberal&amp;quot;?                Old William Ewart Gladstone, when Chancellor of the Exchequer, went over the government accounts demanding to know what this person or that did. Unless a satisfactory answer were provided he had &amp;#039;em sacked. And income tax was precisely zero. More Reaganite than Reagan. And he had no compunction about beating up arabs, ordering the bombardment of Alexandria, starting the Anglo-Egyptian War, which resulted in the occupation of Egypt -- all to protect English investments in Egypt, including his own. He was, it seems to me,  the perfect role model for Clogg -- a total humbug. </description>
<pubDate>Wed, 6 Apr 2011 02:02:55 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Craig Murray : Ivory Coast Tragedy</title>
<link>http://craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2011/04/ivory-coast-tragedy/#IDComment140295992</link>
<description>But what&amp;#039;s really lovely about the Liberals is their stupendous hypocrisy:  Clegg got two jobs through his millionaire father but now rules parents shouldn&amp;#039;t be allowed to open doors for their children   &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1373634/Nick-Clegg-launches-internships-blitz-revealed-daddy-got-job.html#ixzz1IhLfmmLN&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1373634/N...&lt;/a&gt;  All in the interests of loosening the influence of parents and families to enhance the influence of the liberal neo-imperialist elite.   </description>
<pubDate>Wed, 6 Apr 2011 00:29:12 +0000</pubDate>
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