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9 years ago @ The Toast - A note on The Toast · 0 replies · +38 points
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10 years ago @ The Toast - Cocktail Hour: Open Th... · 1 reply · +10 points
Some of the bros are definitely out of touch with reality and just loathe women and minorities. I may be naive, but I hope that there's a "silent majority" of Sanders supporters who are reasonable, but are just being blindly optimistic and uncritical. I'd like to make them think and defend the right side of things rather than let the ugly side take over. The socratic thing has worked among my carefully-curated set of irl friends who I talk politics with, but maybe Twitter is stupider and less nice. In any case, Sanders himself will probably disappear, but the bros might not, so I figure let's yell at them a little while we can?
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I think I'm trying to indirectly target the way the conversation happens by pretending like I only care about policy? As a form of strategic self-tone-policing? Maybe that doesn't make sense. But if you directly criticize the berniebros, they just get madder and more insular. So maybe asking polite questions on the issues would make it harder for them to react superficially and defensively, while also getting them to think a bit more. I don't actually expect Bernie to listen or change his message unless the audience starts doubting it first. Maybe having both hashtags would help?
10 years ago @ The Toast - Cocktail Hour: Open Th... · 34 replies · +22 points
So, I don’t want to unnecessarily provoke anyone or be self-promoting here, but I want to see if I can get an idea to take off. I started a hashtag on twitter: https://twitter.com/hashtag/bernbetter?src=hash
I’m concerned that Bernie Sanders's calls to bring “the people” together might really mean “bring together angry middle-class white men.” He has a decent record on race and gender issues, but I think he sees them as separate and secondary to economic justice issues. This seems short-sighted and overly simplistic to me; hierarchies of class, race, gender, sexuality, and nationality are inextricably enmeshed. If he’s unable to take an explicitly intersectional perspective (or is pressured not to in order to maintain the “unity” of his base), I think women and POC and other multiply-oppressed people could become collateral damage in his war against the economic/political "establishment." Of course, economic reforms are also key to helping those groups; that’s why I prefer the strategy of pushing Sanders to improve rather than dismissing him entirely. Clinton is certainly far from being a perfect progressive candidate. Perhaps we can push back against the condescending berniebros(=/= all Sanders supporters) that have been harassing anyone who dissents, and open the Sanders movement to a more inclusive set of progressive voices? My (possibly futile, who knows?) goal is to provide respectful but firm constructive criticism to Sanders and his followers. If you think that’s at all reasonable, I’d love it if you could RT me or add your own questions/comments to the hashtag.
(I hope I’m not doing this all wrong! I’ve never really used Twitter, and I don’t have much of an activist history.)