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8 years ago @ Birther Report - Hearing Set: Canadian-... · 2 replies · +1 points

"by defending our laws"... you didn't read my post very well did you? If you did, you'd realize that the process that the Trump and others are pursuing, is itself a very lawless and arbitrary angle, intended to achieve a result that satisfied their political ambitions. From a legal perspective, it will be disastrous because it will throw Vattel, dual citizenship/loyalty issues, and citizenship of the parents in the trash. Anyone on this forum that supports that effort is a hypocrite because they are then aligning themselves with the goal of manipulating the truth and the law at all costs, in order to achieve a very limited result in one single case... with ramifications for decades to come... all the while making the STRONGEST legal arguments ever put forth on this forum... a farce. For example, to pursue that angle, you'll have to admit that what Vattel said wasn't that important... and citizenship of the parents doesn't really matter... and having a father who is a citizen of another country? no problem.... just as long as you're born on US soil. This is making some on this site into "useful idiots" for the Left and for Trump... for example, the person I'm responding to either (a) doesn't care about what Vattel and isn't a good representative of this community, OR (b) is allowing himself to become one of those "useful idiots". THE QUESTION YOU ALL SHOULD BE ASKING IS THIS... WHY DOESN'T TRUMP EMBRACE VATTEL AND INSIST ON *YOUR* STANDARD OF 2-US CITIZEN PARENTS BORN ON US SOIL? HMMMMMM? Why must he protect Rubio and Obama? And why do so many of you fall in line behind Trump like sheep?

8 years ago @ Birther Report - Video: Trump Says He H... · 0 replies · +1 points

In the majority of these cases, (INCLUDING TRUMP'S ARGUMENTS AND LEGAL STATEMENTS ABOUT THIS CASE!!!) the liberals are trying to do the most bizarre legal contortionist gymnastics in order to arrive at a situation where Obama is legal and Cruz isn't. They often have to rely on the most bizarre legal minutia, while ignoring much more relevant legal precedence. Along they way, they demolish ALL the legal arguments that are most cherished by most people on this forum. Why? Because, to arrive there, they MUST throw Vattel and issues regarding "dual loyalties" in the trash can. Then they use you all as "useful idiots" against Cruz. At the end of the day, should THESE people prevail, there will be a judgement that "location of birth" was ALL that ever mattered... and citizenship of the parents meant NOTHING. And most all of you will have been "played".. Obama will be (falsely!) exonerated... forever!!!... while Cruz will be destroyed... and the liberals will be laughing for years about YOU all helped them do this.... and how they couldn't have done without YOUR help.

8 years ago @ Birther Report - Storm: White House Pre... · 0 replies · +1 points

In the majority of these cases, the liberals are trying to do the most bizarre legal contortionist gymnastics in order to arrive at a situation where Obama is legal and Cruz isn't. They often have to rely on the most bizarre legal minutia, while ignoring much more relevant legal precedence. Along they way, they demolish ALL the legal arguments that are most cherished by most people on this forum. Why? Because, to arrive there, they MUST throw Vattel and issues regarding "dual loyalties" in the trash can. Then they use you all as "useful idiots" against Cruz. At the end of the day, should THESE people prevail, there will be a judgement that "location of birth" was ALL that ever mattered... and citizenship of the parents meant NOTHING. And most all of you will have been "played".. Obama will be (falsely!) exonerated... forever!!!... while Cruz will be destroyed... and the liberals will be laughing for years about YOU all helped them do this.... and how they couldn't have done without YOUR help.

8 years ago @ Birther Report - Accepted: Selective Co... · 0 replies · +1 points

In the majority of these cases, the liberals are trying to do the most bizarre legal contortionist gymnastics in order to arrive at a situation where Obama is legal and Cruz isn't. They often have to rely on the most bizarre legal minutia, while ignoring much more relevant legal precedence. Along they way, they demolish ALL the legal arguments that are most cherished by most people on this forum. Why? Because, to arrive there, they MUST throw Vattel and issues regarding "dual loyalties" in the trash can. Then they use you all as "useful idiots" against Cruz. At the end of the day, should THESE people prevail, there will be a judgement that "location of birth" was ALL that ever mattered... and citizenship of the parents meant NOTHING. And most all of you will have been "played".. Obama will be (falsely!) exonerated... forever!!!... while Cruz will be destroyed... and the liberals will be laughing for years about YOU all helped them do this.... and how they couldn't have done without YOUR help.

8 years ago @ Birther Report - Video: Canadian-Born C... · 1 reply · +2 points

In the majority of these cases, the liberals are trying to do the most bizarre legal contortionist gymnastics in order to arrive at a situation where Obama is legal and Cruz isn't. They often have to rely on the most bizarre legal minutia, while ignoring much more relevant legal precedence. Along they way, they demolish ALL the legal arguments that are most cherished by most people on this forum. Why? Because, to arrive there, they MUST throw Vattel and issues regarding "dual loyalties" in the trash can. Then they use you all as "useful idiots" against Cruz. At the end of the day, should THESE people prevail, there will be a judgement that "location of birth" was ALL that ever mattered... and citizenship of the parents meant NOTHING. And most all of you will have been "played".. Obama will be (falsely!) exonerated... forever!!!... while Cruz will be destroyed... and the liberals will be laughing for years about YOU all helped them do this.... and how they couldn't have done without YOUR help.

8 years ago @ Birther Report - Hearing Set: Canadian-... · 5 replies · +7 points

In the majority of these cases, the liberals are trying to do the most bizarre legal contortionist gymnastics in order to arrive at a situation where Obama is legal and Cruz isn't. They often have to rely on the most bizarre legal minutia, while ignoring much more relevant legal precedence. Along they way, they demolish ALL the legal arguments that are most cherished by most people on this forum. Why? Because, to arrive there, they throw Vattel and issues regarding "dual loyalties" in the trash can. Then they use you all as "useful idiots" against Cruz. At the end of the day, should THESE people prevail, there will be a judgement that "location of birth" was ALL that ever mattered... and citizenship of the parents meant NOTHING. And most all of you will have been "played".. Obama will be (falsely!) exonerated... forever!!!... while Cruz will be destroyed... and the liberals will be laughing for years about how YOU all helped them do this.... and how they couldn't have done without YOUR help.

8 years ago @ Birther Report - Donald Trump: Highly R... · 4 replies · +4 points

once again.. much of the Birther Report crowd was "played" and made into "useful idiots" by those who (1) maintain that Obama is a NBC, (2) and who have to throw out vattal and Minor v. Happersett, pretending they don't exist, and (3) have to pretend that the founding fathers originally put more weight on place of birth than they did on citizenship of the parents--in fact, Ark was probably wrongly decided and by going back to British common law, Ark obliterated a desire by the founding fathers that citizens were more then serfs bound to the land of their birth, but has superior rights at birth. But, again, Mary Brigid McManamon doesn't understand this... and you're all being "played" and made into "useful idiots" when you cheer for Trump's posts that espouse these things.

8 years ago @ Birther Report - Donald Trump: Highly R... · 1 reply · +8 points

EXACTLY... and once again.. much of the Birther Report crowd was "played" and made into "useful idiots" by those who (1) maintain that Obama is a NBC, (2) and who have to throw out vattal and Minor v. Happersett, pretending they don't exist, and (3) have to pretend that the founding fathers originally put more weight on place of birth then they did on citizenship of the parents--in fact, Ark was probably wrongly decided and by going back to British common law, Ark obliterated a desire by the founding fathers that citizens were more than serfs bound to the land of their birth, but instead have superior rights at birth. But, again, Mary Brigid McManamon doesn't understand this... and you're all being "played" and made into "useful idiots" when you cheer for Trump's posts that espouse these things.

8 years ago @ Birther Report - Bloody Sunday: Huckabe... · 1 reply · +13 points

CAREFUL: Don't be "useful idiots" for those who claim that Obama is eligible... but Cruz isn't. For example, in order to arrive at THAT conclusion, they have to nullify BOTH Vattel AND Minor v. Happerset. In fact, that is EXACTLY what the two sources Huckabee references do. Everyone here high-fiving Huckabee should be mindful of this point.

8 years ago @ Birther Report - Smack: Donald Trump Ta... · 0 replies · +10 points

I totally get how most on this site don't think that Cruz, or Jindal, or Obama, or Rubio are NBCs. However, while discussing this in other venues, please don't make the mistake of being a "useful idiot" for those who are trying to take the very convoluted path of claiming that Obama (and Rubio?) is an NBC, while Cruz isn't. Remember, in order to arrive at THAT conclusion, they have to nullify BOTH Vattel AND Minor v. Happerset. Therefore, please don't be a "useful idiot" for THOSE types.