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11 years ago @ Mormon Coffee - God's Offspring · 0 replies · +1 points

[ part 2 ],
We can get a glimpse of where this belief actually came from by listening to Mormon Apostle
Erastus Snow. When speaking of God as their father he stated, " But to our minds the idea
of a Father suggests that of a Mother." Thus by using their own ideas instead of being content
[Rom.1:21] with how the Bible addresses God as father, early Mormon leaders laid a foundation
for their future brethren on how to view certain Scriptures. Sadly, this behavior has short-changed
faithful LDS , who, have accepted their leaders counsel as trustworthy spiritual guidance from God.
Incredibly, Mormon authorities have condemned the leaders of other churches for causing an
apostacy by this same behavior. It's claimed that because these other religious leaders have denied
the Holy Ghost and therefore , " .....preach instead their own ideas of what the scriptures mean
that there are so many false and vain and foolish notions in so called Christendom ..." [ A New
Witness for The articles of Faith, p.324 ] May our Mormon friends take time to look into the Bible
to embrace the truth it contains on this vital issue

11 years ago @ Mormon Coffee - God's Offspring · 1 reply · +1 points

The Mormon "revealed" doctrine of the Fatherhood of God. Latter-days prophet Joseph Smith is
largely responsible for how LDS understand this doctrine, yet subsequent Mormon leaders have
added some "light" to it. Brigham Young used his counselor in the First Presidency, Herber Kimball 's
recollection of Joseph Smith saying that "....he would not worship a God who had not a father, and I
do not know that he would if He had not a mother..." So Mormon prophets chose to promote worship
of a sexually produced deity, one who had to have a father and mother produce Him, raise Him,
discipline Him, and school Him to be the Almighty Creator mentioned in Gen thru Rev. This same
process every Mormon male is emulating today guided by this God, their heavenly Father. [ part 1 ]

11 years ago @ Mormon Coffee - God's Offspring · 0 replies · +2 points

The Fatherhood of God . This is another doctrine that clearly reveals the gap between the teachings
of the prophets in the Old testament and the apostles in the New testament with Mormon prophets .
Mormon leaders have made this clear by stating that " all men and women....are literally the sons and
daughters of Deity." This offical statement further stated that man as, " ....the undeveloped offspring
of celestial parentage is capable, by experience through ages and eons , of evolving into a God."
By stating, "all men " , LDS include Jesus as He was the first spirit son sexually produced by God
and Wife, with Lucifer being His literal brother in heaven. This whole scenario is an example of the
private interpretation of the scriptures by Mormon leaders. The danger of this behavior is clear:
2Tim.2:15, [ also compare Alma 13:20 ]. May our Mormon friends see the truth of the Fatherhood
of God has the Bible declares it , and not be led astray by prophets in the latter-days---Matt 24:11,24

11 years ago @ Mormon Coffee - God's Offspring · 0 replies · +1 points

Kate, take heart in the thought that just as you were delivered from following the false teachings
of a false prophet, so your family and friends can one day be free also.

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11 years ago @ Mormon Coffee - Sacred Mormon Garments... · 0 replies · +1 points

[ part 2 ]
Mormon prophets have a colorful history of revealing what they declare to be requirements
from God to faithful LDS in order for them to know what constitutes proper Latter -Day Saint behavior,
but also what is required to eventually attain eternal life with God in heaven. This spiritual guidance
from God's mouthpiece is said to end any controversy because, as an offical Church publication
once proclaimed, " when they propose a plan it is God's plan. "
Our Mormon guests would do well to search the scriptures to see what God actually says on what
constitutes an legitimate relationship with Him, rather than following the counsel of Mormon prophets
and their "requirements".

ww

11 years ago @ Mormon Coffee - Sacred Mormon Garments... · 1 reply · +1 points

One Mormon apostle stated that Temples are sanctuaries where ceremonies and rites are performed
which pertain to salvation. Another Mormon apostle taught that the Mormon temple become ," to us
the gates of heaven. " The Church section of the Deseret News once said that, " Our salvation is
contingent upon our belief in a living prophet and adherence to his word. He alone has the right to
revelation for the whole Church..." With these statements we can liken the Mormon prophet to a
gate-keeper, a door-man who will open the gate of heaven , the temple door, to those LDS who
meet the requirements.Mormons were once counseled that a requirement to receiving the blessings
promised in the Temple in connection with wearing the sacred temple garment was that no one was
allowed to make any alterations to what the gate-keeper, the prophet ,said was his approved style.
LDS were facing a compromise with their wearing this garment vrs the fashion trends of the day etc.
Thus the prophet issued a warning . Yet , later on the prophet did some altering himself , as he changed
his Godly counsel, he altered his anti-altering counsel to allow a style change of the sacred garment !
[part 1 ]

11 years ago @ Mormon Coffee - Sacred Mormon Garments... · 0 replies · +1 points

clyde, I'm sorry but it seems you still won't address the main point raised by this ministry in these
threads. The "smaller issues " ? Please clyde , may you come to see that the claims by Mormon
prophets miss the mark on issues affecting a person's salvation. All the smaller issues are
not going to matter much if you die in a car accident tomorrow . Please think this through, Jesus is
waiting for you to dismiss your prophet and come to Him.

ww

11 years ago @ Mormon Coffee - Sacred Mormon Garments... · 0 replies · +2 points

Noah, welcome.

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11 years ago @ Mormon Coffee - Sacred Mormon Garments... · 1 reply · +2 points

Kate, you said, ' I don't buy the ' new prophet trumps old one ' theory " . This is because you
correctly know when spiritual leaders , who claim to be revealing the mind of the Lord in their
teachings , are simply not being consistent with their claims of authority as trustworthy guides.
May the Mormon people step back and ponder the teaching track record of the leaders. I thought
you might like the following example of the pot calling the kettle black , by a popular Mormon
Apostle/apologist : " As is commonly the case in the apostate churches of the world, the beliefs
and doctrines of the Reorganized Church are in a constant state of change and alteration. They
have no true apostles and prophets at their head to keep their members from being ' tossed to
and fro, carried about with every wind of doctrine ' " ( Eph.4:14) [ Mormon Doctrine, p630 ]

11 years ago @ Mormon Coffee - Sacred Mormon Garments... · 0 replies · +3 points

Kate, you've shared yet another example of why we can't rely on these men to be trustworthy guides
in spiritual truth. The answer to your question is that this counsel by Joseph F. Smith is filed in the
" who cares" file now. He is dead, the living prophet takes priority, end of discussion. Sad is'nt it ?
The Mormon people deserve better. God help them to dismiss these men from their lives.

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