en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/1287636 Comments by Carra 23 http://listverse.com/2010/12/17/10-biblical-facts-that-everyone-gets-wrong#IDComment116371685 Really Good List Jamie and well presented: For Subject 5 You could have included the latter as corrobboration: Wine: The Bible, as you correctly state. does NOT condemn the drinking of alcohol - that misconception is a holdover from Calvinistic and Purtian Prtotestantism - which worked its way into Methodism etc; What the Bible DOES say is "Be not DRUNK of the fruit of the vine" - at the same time many gainsayers will claim that the water was turned into grape juice - but the original Gospels clearly use a word which translates from the original Greek as WINE /a "fermented grape beverage". As for money the misquote is generally "Money id the root of all evil" when in fact Peter says "LOVE of money - is the root of all evil" Again Great list Fri, 17 Dec 2010 08:21:34 +0000 http://listverse.com/2010/12/17/10-biblical-facts-that-everyone-gets-wrong#IDComment116371685 http://listverse.com/2010/12/15/top-15-worst-sports-moments-of-all-time#IDComment116163870 Try standing in front of theHillsborough Menorial at Anfield and not feel the tragedy and pain! One other point rarely mentioned in public: the Juventus fans STARTED the riot at Heysel; spitting at the English fans and throwing cups of urine at them - among other things - it's simply because the Liverpool fans retaliated by jumping the fence and the Italians trying to run away caused the railing to collapse - but because the majority of dead and injured were Italian, the English fans got the blame! Thu, 16 Dec 2010 12:09:19 +0000 http://listverse.com/2010/12/15/top-15-worst-sports-moments-of-all-time#IDComment116163870 http://listverse.com/2010/12/15/top-15-worst-sports-moments-of-all-time#IDComment116162733 Exceptional List, Random: If I may add a little something to Incident 3: Hillsborough. The accident had very little to do with the hold-up (that was a police myth) - in fact, the major hold-up was the fact that the police were stopping buses carrying Liverpool Fans - and ONLY Liverpool fans and searching them for weapons - Liverpool still had a "reputation" following Heysel even though they were not the worst for hooliganism at the time and had kept their reputations clean. As a result of the harrassment the buses were pulling up late and the fans were trying to get in barely 15 minutes before kick=off: as the teams walked onto the pitch, people outside began panicking and that's when the Police opened the extra gate and funnelled the fans into only one 'corral' causing the crush. The police were responsible for creating the delay, the panic and then the disaster - - - and yet not ONE of them, despite being found officially responsible, has ever been held accountable. Thu, 16 Dec 2010 11:59:43 +0000 http://listverse.com/2010/12/15/top-15-worst-sports-moments-of-all-time#IDComment116162733 http://listverse.com/2010/12/13/15-factlets-most-people-get-wrong#IDComment115440679 Crazhorsemongoos - great rejoinder: I'd forgotten the older application as utilised by Newton; I was concentrating on the implement itself Well done Mon, 13 Dec 2010 12:21:35 +0000 http://listverse.com/2010/12/13/15-factlets-most-people-get-wrong#IDComment115440679 http://listverse.com/2010/12/13/15-factlets-most-people-get-wrong#IDComment115440420 Well obviously you should have done a little more research than JUST "Sorry, Wrong Answer". The term 'Black Box' for the in flight recording system was NOT chosen for humourous reasons - the term 'Black Box' is a generic 'dumping ground' term for any electronic/computerised device for which no immediate commercial purpose has been ascertained. Thus when it was designed/built it was an electronic "Black Box". When it was proposed to the aircraft industry in Australia (and rejected), the inventor took it to (I believe) Boeing, who saw the immediate applicational advantages and installed it under its working title - the 'Black Box' Flight Recorder. The fluorexcent oirange powder-coated colouring was added after several crashes where the recorder was either unlocatable or was located by accident or with difficulty. The original ones were a dull, metallic grey. Mon, 13 Dec 2010 12:19:28 +0000 http://listverse.com/2010/12/13/15-factlets-most-people-get-wrong#IDComment115440420 http://listverse.com/2010/12/10/top-10-best-south-korean-movies#IDComment115077222 WHAT????? No "The Host" ????? Criminal negligence Sat, 11 Dec 2010 13:13:12 +0000 http://listverse.com/2010/12/10/top-10-best-south-korean-movies#IDComment115077222 http://listverse.com/2010/12/09/10-lesser-known-venomous-snakes#IDComment114662150 Excellent List! Death Adder is surprisingly unknown in Australia, not just the the rest of the world - You mention the word 'Adder' in relation to snakes in Oz and most Aussies will think - - - Africa or Asia; most Aussies don't even know we have a snake by that name - that or they think it's a mythical animal! However, if I may make a correction - your first snake you stated: "Although related to true cobras, the water cobra actually belongs to a different genus" In fact - if they are different genera - they're NOT related - their relationship goes back to the Family level which is 'elapidae' which basically makes the water cobra no more related to the true cobra any more than the true cobra is related to the Taipan! However, despite that hiccup - a great list: I used to lecture on snakes and envenomation to emergency services, nurses and doctors and I am impressed with your list - I've only heard of about 5 of them before. Thu, 9 Dec 2010 10:21:22 +0000 http://listverse.com/2010/12/09/10-lesser-known-venomous-snakes#IDComment114662150 http://listverse.com/2010/12/03/10-controversial-apocalyptic-theories#IDComment113606500 Jery stay out of conversations you're not a part of and/or have not the intelligence to enter: The OLD TESTAMENT is made up of 39 "Books" the NEW TESTAMENT is made up of (22 sections which are referred to for convenience and/or only by lazy assholes and morons like you - books); The reality is that theyare made up of 4 GOSPELS; ONE Book (Acts); 16 LETTERS and ONE REVELATION. Now, stop drooling on yourself, have your carer change your nappy (diaper if you're a Yank) and stay out of conversations which are way above your intellect standard - which pretty much means; don't reply to anything said to you (or around you) by anyone (or anyTHING) more intelligent than a Broccoli plant. Fri, 3 Dec 2010 22:07:40 +0000 http://listverse.com/2010/12/03/10-controversial-apocalyptic-theories#IDComment113606500 http://listverse.com/2010/12/03/10-controversial-apocalyptic-theories#IDComment113531422 Nice List - but you're an idiot! The IS NO "Book of Apocalypse" - - - it's not even called "The Book of Revelation" It's simply "Revelation" or in some transcriptions "The Revelation of St.John" If you can't get something as basic as that correct, why should anyone take anything else you write seriously? Fri, 3 Dec 2010 12:18:56 +0000 http://listverse.com/2010/12/03/10-controversial-apocalyptic-theories#IDComment113531422 http://listverse.com/2010/11/15/top-10-foods-prepared-tableside#IDComment110064566 What!?? No Fondue??? No BeniBana??? Sux Tue, 16 Nov 2010 13:11:10 +0000 http://listverse.com/2010/11/15/top-10-foods-prepared-tableside#IDComment110064566 http://listverse.com/2010/11/07/top-10-cases-of-extreme-game-addiction#IDComment108363814 What - nothing about the 16 year old in the Brazil who 'loaned' another 13yo online player 200K of 'play' money and when he couldn't pay it back, went around to his house and murdered him and then dismembered the body in the hallway of the apartment building and was getting ready to start hauling away the body parts when the murderd boy's mother came home and caught him in the act!????? Sun, 7 Nov 2010 11:53:30 +0000 http://listverse.com/2010/11/07/top-10-cases-of-extreme-game-addiction#IDComment108363814 http://listverse.com/2010/11/06/top-10-greatest-art-crimes#IDComment108193214 Kiwi - True that Sat, 6 Nov 2010 13:11:31 +0000 http://listverse.com/2010/11/06/top-10-greatest-art-crimes#IDComment108193214 http://listverse.com/2010/11/06/top-10-greatest-art-crimes#IDComment108173197 In Comment #3 you forgot to mention the Christian destruction of Muslim artifacts in the Middle East during and since the Crusadea, the razing of the Library of Alexandria, the destruction of hundreds (if not thousands) of native artifacts (especially in Central & southern America) by the Conquistadores and the priests who accompanied/followed them as well as the iconoclasm of icons and statues of the Greek and Russian Orthodoxy in various other Crusades and that of the paintings and cravings of Huguenots and Cathars. If you are going to point a finger at ONE group of Iconoclasts/Mass Destroyers of art then point it at ALL of them Sat, 6 Nov 2010 10:16:25 +0000 http://listverse.com/2010/11/06/top-10-greatest-art-crimes#IDComment108173197 http://listverse.com/2010/10/05/top-10-tips-for-beating-casino-tactics#IDComment106468833  <DIV>But it IS a valid suggestion - and thus should have been an option: Much the same way as a magazine aimed at teenage girls over here (and VERY widely read) once ran an article entitled \"The Ten Best Ways to Avoid Pregnancy\": they covered the pill, diaphragms, condoms etc etc - - - - and yet not ONE of the suggestions was the blatantly obvious - don't have sex!</DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>To paraphrase the statement \"Absence of proof is not proof of absence\" - - - \"Omission of an option is not is not an option for omission\"</DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>Carra</DIV> <DIV style=\"FONT: 10pt arial\"> Thu, 28 Oct 2010 01:12:03 +0000 http://listverse.com/2010/10/05/top-10-tips-for-beating-casino-tactics#IDComment106468833 http://listverse.com/2010/10/01/10-spectacular-horned-dinosaurs#IDComment106463522  <DIV>G'day TyB</DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>I kind of agree about the name - though Brachyceratops sounds better than Rubeoceratops (let's just pretend that the English translation doesn't exist!). Not all name changes are good - after all Apatosaurus sucks in comparison to Brontosaurus! Brontosaurus SOUNDS like a dinosaur: Apatosaurus sounds like something you'd buy half a pound of from a butcher's shop!</DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>Which book do you have re the size of the Trike? I've got a library full of books (over 200 last count) but none seem to place it quite that big - though I've heard apocryphally that such sizes have been bandied about. Also - don't get your hopes up about the 'bigger' Trikes being described soon; I'm a Tyrannosaur nut and I've been waiting for about 6 years now for Keith Rigby to get off his arse and finish his description of Tyrannosaurus imperator - supposedly a Tyrannosaur some 15-20% larger than T-rex; as well, that idiot Jack Horner says HE has a Tyrannosaur in the group he's unearthing which is bigger than either Tyrannosaurus \"Sue\" OR Tyrannosaurus \"Stan\".</DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>BTW - you sound like you might be a bit of a dinosaur nut! If so, there's a good, low-key discussion group on Yahoo called DinosaursEtc. Good people, some of whom are involved in palaeontology - the moderator, Bruce sculpts dinosaur skeletons for universities and museums while dawn is a preparator in New Mexico, the rest of us are just nuts about dino's- they'd love to have you in the group, it's going a bit slow at present</DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>Carra23</DIV> <DIV style=\"FONT: 10pt arial\"> Thu, 28 Oct 2010 00:34:11 +0000 http://listverse.com/2010/10/01/10-spectacular-horned-dinosaurs#IDComment106463522 http://listverse.com/2010/09/20/15-historical-facts-you-dont-know#IDComment106446172  IntenseDebate Notification <DIV>Hi Nicole (nicoleredz3)</DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>I do understand your comment and I absolutely agree: I guess I'm just sick of Jamie's headings: 15 things you don't know; 10 things you've never heard etc: It just annoys me that people - especially people who are supposed to know better; haven't the wherewithall to entitle something more correctly: Those of us who are widely read DO know many of these things and feel insulted.</DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>Otherwise; I really enjoy the content and even though I know most (if not all) of the things his lists contain; occasionally there is something new or something I had misplaced in my cerebral 'filing cabinet'.</DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>Please don't be offended; the comment WAS for Jamie, not for the general populace of the list.</DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>Thank you for the comment - at least you were polite.</DIV> <DIV></DIV> <DIV>Carra</DIV> <DIV style=\"FONT: 10pt arial\"> Wed, 27 Oct 2010 22:28:13 +0000 http://listverse.com/2010/09/20/15-historical-facts-you-dont-know#IDComment106446172 http://listverse.com/2010/10/21/top-10-british-comedy-series#IDComment105411072 ? The Young Ones; ? Bottom; ?Open All Hours; ?Porridge; ?'Allo, 'Allo; ?Dad's Army; ?The Vicar of Dibley; ?Father Ted; ?To The Manor Born; ?Please Sir; ?On the Buses; ?'Til Death Us Do Part; ? The Mighty Boosh; ?Robin's Nest; ?Burnistoun not to mention the "individuals" - The Two Ronnies, Morecambe & Wise, Spike Milligan & Benny Hill There's 19 you missed which HAVE stood the test of time! The ones above are NOT the 10 best - they're good, but not the best: after all - In Betweeners, Peep Show etc - haven't stood the test of time: neither has The Office - - - - but it WILL Since you said Comedy and failed to exclude radio - you also missed The Goon Show! Fri, 22 Oct 2010 11:18:50 +0000 http://listverse.com/2010/10/21/top-10-british-comedy-series#IDComment105411072 http://listverse.com/2010/10/20/10-bizarre-or-memorable-casino-experiences#IDComment105311686 Hey Man! We have something in common - we wanted to kill our upper eschelon as well - - - - along with about two out of every three casualties who probably deserved it because they needed us due to their own stupidity and then got belligerent or smartarse when we turned up! Genki - get a life - this guy has lived one already Thu, 21 Oct 2010 21:28:44 +0000 http://listverse.com/2010/10/20/10-bizarre-or-memorable-casino-experiences#IDComment105311686 http://listverse.com/2010/10/20/10-bizarre-or-memorable-casino-experiences#IDComment104971964 Sounds like being a casino security guard is a lot like being a paramedic - so many assholes and so few bullets! Wed, 20 Oct 2010 12:01:04 +0000 http://listverse.com/2010/10/20/10-bizarre-or-memorable-casino-experiences#IDComment104971964 http://listverse.com/2010/10/13/10-theories-on-the-sun-space-and-2012#IDComment103813195 Another Conspiracy Theory Nutjob! As Mr.Rate would say: "artificial sweeteners were safe, WMDs were in Iraq and Anna Nicole married for love." Before you go off half-cocked why not mention the fact that the Mesoamerican Long-count Calendar was followed by another one as well as having various others of shoreter duration overlapping it - if you're gonna tell a story - - - - thell the WHOLE fucking story and not just the bit that fits in with your idiot disaster scenario one. And I agree with all the others that, despite my abnormally-long attention span, the list was WAY too long - next time; write a book, it'd be quicker to read. Wed, 13 Oct 2010 12:45:34 +0000 http://listverse.com/2010/10/13/10-theories-on-the-sun-space-and-2012#IDComment103813195