hi mojoey and blessed atheist bible study dude... although i'm 100% on your side and i enjoy reading that you are another rational human being, i wish i shared your optimism toward the "people who seem impervious to logic or reason". i hate to say it but i believe they seem that way because they are that way. it's not that i don't wish you luck but evangelizing is their gig and it's a very annoying gig at that. i think the best "we" can do is to simply be acknowledged for the % of the whole that we really are and have a political strength commensurate with that % but as far as arguing with senseless people, life's too short.