en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/1861222 Comments by capriciousyouthmeetmotherhood http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2013/03/27283/#IDComment592584892 So, so, Soooooooo much red herring here! Holy cow I don't even know where to start! I I'm going to preface this by saying that I grew up around guns. Guns for hunting. Guns for fun. Shots guns, rifles, pistols. To a certain degree I am a urban gun nut. Both my husband and I grew up rural and enjoy shooting guns. Now that we are adults, live in the city and have kids we do not have guns in the house, we have never once in the 14 years of living in the city felt the need. We feel that since we do not hunt, we do not have a context for teaching our children how to handle guns as tools rather than weapons. We still like shooting, we're a little redneck like that. So all that being said you are going to show me a video of a bunch of people who clearly do not handle or use guns with any level of proficiency get knocked over by the kick of a shotgun and tell me that what they need is a different gun, a more powerful, lethal weapon, to make them a better marksman? REALLY?!? I would argue, after watching this video, that each and every one of them needs to get into a firearms safety class before they are ever allowed to touch ANY firearm again. When we were kids the first guns we were given were shotguns and .22's. First you learned how to control the kick on a shotgun(and by the way, if I felt compelled to get a gun for home protection, it would most certainly be a shotgun. A shotgun does not require the level of precision that a rifle or a handgun requires to make an impact. It will not penetrate the walls of my home thus putting my neighbors at risk. It does require some PRACTICE to gain control over kick.) Then you learned how to use sights with a .22. All the serious marksmen in my life have taken years worth of classes for concealed weapons training and firearms training. Why? Because they are intelligent responsible people who take responsibility for their actions. What this kind of nonsense is advocating is completely irresponsible if your lucky, and extremely dangerous if you're not. Mon, 11 Mar 2013 18:21:58 +0000 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2013/03/27283/#IDComment592584892 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2013/02/27151/#IDComment590018154 My father is an enrolled member of the Blackfeet Tribe and I am a registered descendant. I invite you to google the Marias Massacre(it's eerily similar to wounded knee) and Starvation Winter. And those are just 2 incidents involving one tribe. Indeed that man was shouting obscenities, but I think that's a vast improvement to being thrown on an open fire with the other infants and children from your clan while your mothers are raped and killed, don't you? What is truly appalling here is your ignorance. Sat, 9 Mar 2013 02:30:02 +0000 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2013/02/27151/#IDComment590018154 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/10/evil-12-year-old-girl-autumn-pasquale-killed-by-teenage-boys-for-bike-parts-thank-feminists-video/#IDComment471136616 Um, wow.... So when an older teenage boy kills another teenage boy for his iPhone who is to blame? Steve Jobs? Focus on the Family? Seriously, where do you get this stuff? Is this your own spurious leap or did are you regurgitating someone else's vague ramblings? Wed, 24 Oct 2012 00:00:11 +0000 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/10/evil-12-year-old-girl-autumn-pasquale-killed-by-teenage-boys-for-bike-parts-thank-feminists-video/#IDComment471136616 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/08/avoid-starbucks-on-tuesday-august-7-appreciation-day-for-gay-marriage-support/#IDComment418706613 Costco, huh? I have a friend that would be shocked. How could the company that has employed him for nearly 20 years back the horror, the HORROR, of gay marriage. Thu, 9 Aug 2012 20:54:27 +0000 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/08/avoid-starbucks-on-tuesday-august-7-appreciation-day-for-gay-marriage-support/#IDComment418706613 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/08/avoid-starbucks-on-tuesday-august-7-appreciation-day-for-gay-marriage-support/#IDComment418705591 My husband says the same about flying east; we're in Portland. Cheers to cross continental travel! Thanks for posting the list. Thu, 9 Aug 2012 20:51:47 +0000 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/08/avoid-starbucks-on-tuesday-august-7-appreciation-day-for-gay-marriage-support/#IDComment418705591 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2011/06/van-jones-embraces-gay-rights-at-netroots-nation-2011-video/#IDComment375461220 If unsafe sex with multiple partners is the cause then one of the solutions would be to promote monogamy as well as safe sex. So if we would like to promote monogamy maybe we should let gay people get married? Wed, 6 Jun 2012 21:47:45 +0000 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2011/06/van-jones-embraces-gay-rights-at-netroots-nation-2011-video/#IDComment375461220 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2011/06/van-jones-embraces-gay-rights-at-netroots-nation-2011-video/#IDComment375459957 Why is everything "apples and oranges" when it doesn't fit your "theory" of causation? Seriously, you do this over and over. Boys shouldn't dress as girls(unless they are kilt wearers, then skirts are acceptable, but that's really an aside), but if a girl prefers boy clothes it's not as big a problem. Feminists are to blame for the objectivication of women, men bear no consequences to their thoughts or actions. Abortion is bad, but universal health care and a living wage are socialism.... I could go on for while, but I need to make my undoubtedly miscreant liberal children an after school snack. Wed, 6 Jun 2012 21:45:05 +0000 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2011/06/van-jones-embraces-gay-rights-at-netroots-nation-2011-video/#IDComment375459957 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/05/open-thread-florida-cannibal-on-drugs-canadian-cannibal-on-porn/#IDComment370866659 I thought that mostly plane crashes and stranded wagon trains led to cannibalism... you know sprinkling in a psychopath here and there. Thu, 31 May 2012 06:07:55 +0000 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/05/open-thread-florida-cannibal-on-drugs-canadian-cannibal-on-porn/#IDComment370866659 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/05/gendercide-tolerating-anti-woman-feminists-claim-lila-rose-is-an-advocate-of-sexism/#IDComment370865698 "Feminism turns women into sexual objects and offers men the fantasy of consequence free sex through abortion without restrictions." You HAVE to be smarter than is.... don't you? Please reread that statement and really think about what it says.... So unless men are living in fear of getting some girl knocked up and having to support the child they are in no way beholden keep it in their pants and shouldn't be expected to? They have carte blanche to treat women like a gym sock laying on the floor of their teenage bedroom? They are completely absolved of any responsibility in the sexual choices they make AND it's those damn feminist's fault. If this is how you and Cmorplante "get" it, then am I ever glad you are not my daughter's daddy. Thu, 31 May 2012 06:05:35 +0000 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/05/gendercide-tolerating-anti-woman-feminists-claim-lila-rose-is-an-advocate-of-sexism/#IDComment370865698 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/05/the-liberal-version-of-love-that-justifies-gay-marriage-is-selfish-video/#IDComment357965262 Seriously, the politics of division are alive and well here, Todd. Keep railing on divisive issues that have no chance of ever reaching a consensus point. Keep the country divided. It's what big government and corporations want. They can push through bills that will make them millions and keep everyone below them tethered as long as we focus on 2 or 3 issues we will never agree on. Woo hoo! All hail the system! Just freaking let the gays get married and let's move on to keeping our country alive and prosperous, shall we? Thu, 10 May 2012 17:56:50 +0000 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/05/the-liberal-version-of-love-that-justifies-gay-marriage-is-selfish-video/#IDComment357965262 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/05/obama-forsakes-christian-faith-and-embraces-gay-marriage/#IDComment357942181 Nobody's asking you to ENdorse anything. No one is asking for your religious counsel either. Thu, 10 May 2012 17:11:21 +0000 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/05/obama-forsakes-christian-faith-and-embraces-gay-marriage/#IDComment357942181 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/05/time-for-obama-to-evolve-on-polygamy-and-polyamory-now-that-he-has-embraced-gay-marriage/#IDComment357940847 No, it's not. It's about being safe to live YOUR life. Just like freedom of religion is about it being safe to practice YOUR religion. Think about it this way: What if we lived in a society that unequivocally did not recognize Christian marriage as an institution, but you and your wife stood before God, took your vows to each other and thus, in your mind, but not the government's became a family. You have committed your life to each other and the family you will produce, but your do not receive tax cuts that married people have, no benefits for your children or widow's pension for your wife through social security if, God forbid, something happens to you and insurance is left to the discretion of the company where you work, as to whether it covers Christian partners. If something happens to your wife or yourself, neither of you have power of attorney. This is the dilemma of the homosexual couple. Whether your brand of Christianity accepts it or not, there are people who have devoted themselves to other people in the same way that you and I and our spouses are devoted to each other. And what they are asking for is the same protections and rights from our government that we as heterosexuals take for granted. You don't have to approve. Hell, you don't even have to accept its "rightness." You are not obligated to teach your children that their lifestyle is an option for them. But you do not have the right to withhold rights from other people and nobody has a right to hurt anyone else because of who they and how they love. End of story. Thu, 10 May 2012 17:08:39 +0000 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/05/time-for-obama-to-evolve-on-polygamy-and-polyamory-now-that-he-has-embraced-gay-marriage/#IDComment357940847 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/05/time-for-obama-to-evolve-on-polygamy-and-polyamory-now-that-he-has-embraced-gay-marriage/#IDComment357657570 How so? A gay couple can no more walk into a church that does not condone or recognize gay marriage than I could have walked into a Catholic church and expected that my husband and I could have be married there. This is purely legal. It would be left up to the churches themselves to decide whether they would perform gay marriages. No church is obligated to marry any couple. And honestly, do you think people want to be married in a church where the congregation is standing in judgment of their life as a couple? Or do you think they would choose to be married in front of a congregation that supported them? This does not affect you or me. Thu, 10 May 2012 06:39:46 +0000 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/05/time-for-obama-to-evolve-on-polygamy-and-polyamory-now-that-he-has-embraced-gay-marriage/#IDComment357657570 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/05/time-for-obama-to-evolve-on-polygamy-and-polyamory-now-that-he-has-embraced-gay-marriage/#IDComment357475121 If we're going to get all biblical, I would think you would be all about Polygamy given it's precedent in the Old Testament. So freedom to wear a beard however you like and eat shellfish your heart's content, but no polygamy or gay marriage, huh? Wed, 9 May 2012 23:45:02 +0000 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/05/time-for-obama-to-evolve-on-polygamy-and-polyamory-now-that-he-has-embraced-gay-marriage/#IDComment357475121 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/05/time-for-obama-to-evolve-on-polygamy-and-polyamory-now-that-he-has-embraced-gay-marriage/#IDComment357472989 Again, how does this effect you or me or Burl or Craig or bwzubke? It doesn't. Not one bit. Have you seen gay couples at Disneyland or the grocery store or the mall or the park? Guess what? You still will. Maybe they will be married. Maybe not. Who can tell? When my husband and I go out we do not announce our relationship status at every venue at which we arrive. NOTHING has changed. For US. Live your life as to your beliefs. By all means rejoice in the peace that your faith brings you and model what a functional working family looks like. Strive for YOUR best. But don't pick apart the morality of everyone that surrounds you based on YOUR individual belief system. It is not your right to condemn others. It is not for you to decide who deserves what. Any more than it is my right to tell you that your faith is wrong because it is not the same as my faith. I may not agree with you, but I will go down arguing for you to have your opinions and beliefs. I just don't think they should be legislation. Any more than mine should be. And in terms of big government, it's a double edged sword. If you choose to govern based on one interpretation of one religion then what is to stop the pendulum from swinging the other way. Talk about a slippery slope. Wed, 9 May 2012 23:39:55 +0000 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/05/time-for-obama-to-evolve-on-polygamy-and-polyamory-now-that-he-has-embraced-gay-marriage/#IDComment357472989 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/05/time-for-obama-to-evolve-on-polygamy-and-polyamory-now-that-he-has-embraced-gay-marriage/#IDComment357471640 how so? Wed, 9 May 2012 23:36:46 +0000 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/05/time-for-obama-to-evolve-on-polygamy-and-polyamory-now-that-he-has-embraced-gay-marriage/#IDComment357471640 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/04/organizers-of-journalism-conference-apologize-for-inviting-bully-dan-savage/#IDComment353559923 Thanks for the welcome back. I've been around.... I just don't like to post unless I have time to be thoughtful and with kids in the house thoughtful internet responses are not often a luxury I can afford. Thu, 3 May 2012 21:39:32 +0000 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/04/organizers-of-journalism-conference-apologize-for-inviting-bully-dan-savage/#IDComment353559923 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/04/organizers-of-journalism-conference-apologize-for-inviting-bully-dan-savage/#IDComment353558634 Heh! Thu, 3 May 2012 21:37:05 +0000 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/04/organizers-of-journalism-conference-apologize-for-inviting-bully-dan-savage/#IDComment353558634 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/04/organizers-of-journalism-conference-apologize-for-inviting-bully-dan-savage/#IDComment353557941 I'm sorry... that's sounded pretty sanctimonious, huh? I think I have a bad case of the Howard Zinn affected Election Year Blahs. I feel like a child of divorce.... CAN'T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG???? LOL I think the whole point of this thread could be that at some point everyone is a bully, whether it is intentional or subconscious. My job as a parent and a somewhat mature adult is to keep track of my own behavior in hopes that it effects positively my offspring. What everyone else does isn't really any of my business.... Also, in the world of religious and liberal blogging does it ever feel like there's NEVER anything uplifting or positive going on? Or is that just my Election Year Malaise just acting up again? It's kinda like, on one side it's people screaming at you about how Jesus loves you and you're a horrible person so rot in hell or you don't give a crap about the environment/ animal cruelty/GMO's/ air quality/ bike rights/banning plastic bags, you're a horrible, selfish person; rot in hell. Either way, pfffffttt. Thu, 3 May 2012 21:35:47 +0000 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/04/organizers-of-journalism-conference-apologize-for-inviting-bully-dan-savage/#IDComment353557941 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/05/white-couple-attacked-by-100-black-teens-in-virginia-at-church-and-brambleton-video/#IDComment352836170 It's all any politician cares about. Let's be real here. And as long as the American people continue to believe that they are somehow radically different from one another then the powers that be have us exactly where they want us. So keeping fighting you neighbor, it makes it that much easier for the government and corporations to push through anything that they want. Wed, 2 May 2012 18:50:37 +0000 http://bluecollarphilosophy.com/2012/05/white-couple-attacked-by-100-black-teens-in-virginia-at-church-and-brambleton-video/#IDComment352836170