About those 'secret fire ceremonies'... Comments

Tim_Ireland

Thu, 24 Nov 2011 10:17:32 +0000

Will do*, but I'm comfortable with awareness of what region I'm in. Cheers. (*In fact, is now done. Ta.)

@CoombsBucket

Thu, 24 Nov 2011 07:40:16 +0000

Tim, you might also want to grey out the arm badges showing borough and county as someone within the movement could possibly work out which you're in based on the shape. For example I figured out you're in Surrey (before the reference to Ann Milton) from your county badge.

Tim_Ireland

Wed, 23 Nov 2011 23:56:00 +0000

I believe in evolution over revolution. I will lobby for reform while paying my dues to the system that sustains me, and that includes my duty to the monarch currently on the books. Also, in my promise, I pledged to do my duty to my Dharma, instead of God, or Allah, or one of many options; it was a pledge that already existed (eg to cover Sikhism) that covered my needs, and I could say the promise and mean it, and fret about something that might be even more inclusive a *bit* further down the track. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dharma Perfectly suitable word to describe my duty to my fellow man. True, I was pledging to do my duty to my duty to my fellow man, but I've searched deep inside my soul and come to terms with the tautology.

@Al__S

Wed, 23 Nov 2011 18:29:40 +0000

But what if your belief is that there is no god and that the queen is an inbred manifestation of a corrupt and fundamentally unjust system? The idea of lying whilst taking the promise really doesn't sit comfortably with me. I'm actually quite serious here- even though I know that being a leader down here in Cambridge could not possibly be as much fun as being a leader in my old troop (1st Menstrie, 3rd Clackmannanshire)

Tim_Ireland

Wed, 23 Nov 2011 15:18:00 +0000

It still does, but there are different versions to take into account differing beliefs and there have been for a while now.

NickPheas

Wed, 23 Nov 2011 14:43:18 +0000

When I was a cub, many years ago, the oath included a commitment to do your duty to God and the Queen

Tim_Ireland

Wed, 23 Nov 2011 13:14:33 +0000

Yeah, there's a bit of an unspoken 'don't ask don't tell' culture surrounding the issue that's decades old. I went in wanting to be open about my beliefs.

Tim_Ireland

Wed, 23 Nov 2011 13:13:07 +0000

Yes, I blogged about the relevant CRB check a while ago (minus details, obv.). Strange it didn't reveal my alleged computer hacking past. http://www.bloggerheads.com/archives/2010/11/stal...

madaxeman

Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:54:23 +0000

I used to be a scout, and don't remember scouting being a particularly religious movement. Maybe my leaders were a bit naff eh?

madaxeman

Wed, 23 Nov 2011 12:53:12 +0000

OMG! But won't someone please think of the children lol! Odd that the Enhanced CRB checks that you will doubtless hold for this role failed to pick up on your former exploits as the terror of Guildford / computer hacker extrodinaire... Still, this can be easily explained by the accusations of your past exploits, as indeed so much that your accuser ventures forth with, being utter bullshit...