en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/3541157 Comments by twirlgrl http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/15/voices-from-the-classroom-78/#IDComment224127400 I recently found out a majority of the kids who were destructive with the media van were high schoolers. Of course I am not sure how much of this is true, but if it is true, this is a huge deal. The media talked about how destructive Penn State students are, and it may not even have been us. Also, outside of the crisis matter, over 80 percent of people that get drunk at state pattys day and are extremely sloppy are not even from here! They may be penn state Altoona, or anywhere else, even high shcoolers, but they arent even mostly us! This is insane. At this point, I can just say I am not sure who to believe, and I will now think twice before I draw any conclusions or believe anything. Sat, 19 Nov 2011 00:39:52 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/15/voices-from-the-classroom-78/#IDComment224127400 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/15/voices-from-the-classroom-78/#IDComment224127311 . A little less than two weeks ago, I read in the collegian how Joe Pa helped in giving our athletes an above 80 percent graduation rate. And now, American is seeing him as a monster. And it is all because the media portrayed him that way. With knowing how the media works, I have also learned how not to be judgemental. Now, whenever I hear an allegation I will not jump the gun and join the finger pointing gallery. I will actually look into the allegation, and begin to draw my own view and opinion on the matter. And even still with my opinion, I will not point a finger. This is because I wasn’t there for whatever it was that happened. You will never fully get the truth unless you were there. Very important things, that may even seem small but are still very important, are left out. I cannot draw any correct conclusion without full proof. Something else I learned, is things are never what they seem. Sat, 19 Nov 2011 00:39:38 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/15/voices-from-the-classroom-78/#IDComment224127311 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/15/voices-from-the-classroom-78/#IDComment224127096 This is a great question. I have learned so much in the past couple weeks its incredible. The first and biggest thing that I learned is you cant trust the media. Most Americans, and I am saying most because I am not sure, use newspapers, internet, televisions, and radios to get their information on the world. And most of that information that they receive, the see it as true 9 times out of 10. Being a Penn Stater, I watched a whole nation believe in the media. Actually reading the report and following up on everything, I knew that these people weren’t receiving the correct information. It got to a point so bad, ESPN had to get on television and tell the nation that Joe Paterno wasn’t the one who did the alleged crimes. Nit once for a whole week did they even show a picture of Sandusky. They only showed Joe Paterno, thinking of ways to get people all stirred up over a man who was the only one who reported the crime. All because he was so prestigious and did so much for Penn State, helping to make it one of the best schools in the nation. A little less than two weeks ago, they had a documentary on Joe Paterno as a legend. Sat, 19 Nov 2011 00:39:12 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/15/voices-from-the-classroom-78/#IDComment224127096 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/09/voices-from-the-classroom-70/#IDComment220555651 So why would I stop in taking coacoa that is already produced? Wouldn’t that be like the slaves are working hard for no reason. Wouldn’t that be making coacoa they produced waste? The answer to this question I believe is yes. Its just like when you use paper and people say save the trees! The poor tree is already dead. Lets not make the trees death and vain and use what he produced from dying. Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:05:06 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/09/voices-from-the-classroom-70/#IDComment220555651 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/09/voices-from-the-classroom-70/#IDComment220555556 With all this being said, by the next two days, on the cold Thursday, I had a hot chocolate. Not even thinking about how I felt the two days before. Its just my whole life, when it was cold, I got hot chocolate. It was like instinct in a way. Cold=hot chocolate. But after I did this, I felt bad again. Because I had forgotten. I forgot how the people had and are still suffering because of the coacoa beans used to help produce my hot chocolate. So naturally, I just started thinking about the topic again. Then I figured, the coacoa is already made. Me changing my intake of slave made chocolate will not change the demand of chocolate by a long shot. I don’t even eat or drink chocolate that often. Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:04:47 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/09/voices-from-the-classroom-70/#IDComment220555556 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/09/voices-from-the-classroom-70/#IDComment220555422 I actually was the one who asked this question. I was very interested in seeing how people reacted. Whether they reacted similarly or differently, and why they maybe reacted this way. I was very shocked to see the majority of people ate chocolate immediately after. After I watched that video I felt so guilty. I would have to say that what got me most was seeing their scars. And even worse the statement that one of the former slaves, whom was a slave for 5 years and witnessed so many other slaves beaten sometimes to death, said at the end of the video. When he said he would be very angry at people like us who eat slave made chocolate, and it would be like eating his flesh, it totally made me just lose my complete appetite for chocolate. He used the word “flesh” in reference to chocolate. This was very disturbing to me and a complete turn off from chocolate. I don’t want to eat anyone’s flesh. Nor do I want to make it seem like I don’t care about what goes on with these people. Its very sad that even now we still have slavery. Fri, 11 Nov 2011 20:04:24 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/11/09/voices-from-the-classroom-70/#IDComment220555422 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/27/voices-from-the-classroom-58/#IDComment213541477 Just to walk around and see black or brown people all the time boggles my mind. I can believe its going to happen because of immigration and interracial couple, but its still unbelievable to think about. I just cant believe that superior whites allowed this this happen. And I’m almost frightened to see the outcome of this if whites that are racist don’t take this too well. I mean, I guess we have to wait 20 years to actually see what’s going to happen,. Fri, 28 Oct 2011 19:12:29 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/27/voices-from-the-classroom-58/#IDComment213541477 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/27/voices-from-the-classroom-58/#IDComment213541279 There will be so much confusion because its such a significant change in what has been going on for so many years. You would also be very cautious, and afraid. Then questions will arise, how did this change happen why is it happening, and what will be the result of this happening. I’m very curious of how white people will then respond with these questions. Will racism be eliminated because they feel outnumbered, or will it become worse because they are afraid. In the past, when slaves were freed and whites were outnumbered, they came up with the gun laws that legalized guns. Will they come up with something else because they are outnumbered?? Now that I am bringing that up, it is actually frightening to think about. I only hope that they can just be like the black and brown people of present day and just adapt. Try to live their lives like usual, just without as many people that look like them. This is crazy to think about. Fri, 28 Oct 2011 19:12:10 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/27/voices-from-the-classroom-58/#IDComment213541279 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/27/voices-from-the-classroom-58/#IDComment213540673 I am an African American female. The fact that whites will be a minority will not significantly affect me. The biggest part that will affect me is I won’t feel like the classic “the only black person in the room” all the time, like I usually do now. Especially being here in Pennsylvania and at Penn state where there is a dramatic drop in the black population as compared to the white population. When it comes to whites, I definitely feel like this would freak them out. But I also feel that this isn’t there fault. And here is why. For centuries blacks have been the minority. And thus, blacks have become use to this. It isn’t a huge deal if you are in a room full of white people, because its what your use to, what your parents and grandparents were use to ect. The fact that there will be a whole change in how the United States will look will come as a shock to white people. Its just human nature to freak out due to these changes I think. For example, if everyday your parents made you eat broccoli, carrots, and salad for dinner, then one night they give you cake and fudge brownies, your going to freak out. Fri, 28 Oct 2011 19:10:28 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/27/voices-from-the-classroom-58/#IDComment213540673 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/20/voices-from-the-classroom-48/#IDComment210662552 Like my one friend who commented that people who were working and getting paid in the south dining commons was an equivalent to an African American slave. It was actually very insulting, but I shook it off and just seen it as ignorance. Then I don’t have any stage four or five friends. But you can see I have the stages of friends that kind of clash with each other. It can be really annoying especially sitting at a dinner table with all types. You got the ones who talk to much and don’t speak up enough And just let ignorance go with the stage fours. But I think the stages we are in have a lot to do with the people we grew up with and how they viewed racism. Its just human nature, especially as a child, to just do things sometimes just because your friend is. Now I’m not talking about something deathly but something so much as an idea or opinion on racism can rub off so easily Fri, 21 Oct 2011 20:42:09 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/20/voices-from-the-classroom-48/#IDComment210662552 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/20/voices-from-the-classroom-48/#IDComment210662483 . Now when it comes to being here at Penn State, all of my friends are at different stages. I believe a huge part of this comes from the community they grew up in and the stage their community was in. Their different stages can be a little frustrating sometime also. It’s especially hard when I became their friend not based on what stage they were in but because of their great personality or similar interest. The stage one friends of course are cool. They don’t bring anything about racism up at all. My stage two friends are kind of bad. They have to say “not to offend you but”, before every question they ask me about my African American hair or other things like that. It become sort of annoying especially with the abundance of stage two friends I have of constantly being seen as the “fragile with sensitivity” friend. I actually don’t think I have stage three friends, though my stage two friends are the worst. They always say things to kind of cover up the fact that racism exists. Fri, 21 Oct 2011 20:41:55 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/20/voices-from-the-classroom-48/#IDComment210662483 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/20/voices-from-the-classroom-48/#IDComment210662394 I have friends of all different stages. When I was in high school, I could say that we were all in the same stage though. I believe we were probably all in the same stage because we were all growing up in the same community. I think that our community had an influence on the stage we would initially become at this age we are now. The stage we are back home I would say is like a stage two. The reason I say this is because I feel like we all just want to seem so interracial. We notice there is a them and that there is an us, and we try to embrace those differences. I am not exactly sure if we all embraced those differences because we actually wanted to or if we don’t want to seem racist or offend each other. I know for a fact that I do it just because I see all races as people and not for their color. When it comes to relationships, I tend to be attracted to one color of skin than the other, but I have dated all races of all colors. And that’s just because its what I’m attracted to. Fri, 21 Oct 2011 20:41:36 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/20/voices-from-the-classroom-48/#IDComment210662394 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/13/voices-from-the-classroom-41/#IDComment207272510 I think its okay to do this, stand up for yourself because you don’t want to be a stereotype. As a black person I don’t want to be a stereotype either! Especially when we have so many stereotypes against us. But, there are some stage fours that are just so ignorant to me. Like I know someone who really frustrates me. They try to completely shut out the fact that there is racism basically. They say things that are really offensive sometimes like “people working today are like slaves” like comparing beaten, raped, traumatized, seized from their homeland, people to people working in like south. Come on. Stage two people if there’s anything you should be afraid of saying its that haha. There’s just like an ignorance that needs to be overcome with some stage fours. And stage fours I am not saying you are all this way, but there are a lot. But I don’t think its your fault. I am just very glad you are in soc 119 ha. Fri, 14 Oct 2011 04:51:01 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/13/voices-from-the-classroom-41/#IDComment207272510 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/13/voices-from-the-classroom-41/#IDComment207272453 They are afraid that either they will come off racist, or that we will feel bad about ourselves (I guess because it seems like a racist comment). They are afraid of putting us down like their ancestors before them. Which is the white guilt that we talked about before. But I personally feel really bad for white people in stage two, its really sweet, but, its really sad that they live like this all the time. Always afraid, and afraid of black people especially. Especially my friends. I want my white friends to feel comfortable around me and say what they feel. I am not a fragile doll I won’t break if you tell me how you feel or have a question. We are all different, and if I don’t know I would like to. So I want people to feel that way with me. I am a human being ask me I will answer. To all the white people reading this we will NOT bite your head off I swear! Unless a black person is like a jerk, but like Sam said today blacks have just as many jerks as whites do. All races have their jerks, but a majority of us are not mean like that. Now with stage four. I know so many stage four people. Fri, 14 Oct 2011 04:50:43 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/13/voices-from-the-classroom-41/#IDComment207272453 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/13/voices-from-the-classroom-41/#IDComment207272321 Yes I definitely think society is stuck in a stage. But to change this question up a bit, I think we are stuck in two stages. I think that we are stuck in stage two and stage four. Now let me tell you my reasoning for this. First of all I believe we are stuck in two stages, stage two and in stage four. I feel like in stage two, a lot of white people are afraid to say certain things. Especially about people of different color and their different culture of things. Like, I am African American. I have micros (hair weave) and white people are so fascinated about how I get the tiny braids in my hair. They wonder how long it takes, does it hurt, how doesn’t my hair fall out, etc. But, every single white person that wanted to know these things has start out first by saying “ I don’t mean to be offensive but..” Now in the beginning, I thought that they were saying this to me because black people have this “crazy” portrayal in the world that we will just flip out whenever we feel offended or something. But then I came to realize, white people are just really afraid to offend us. Fri, 14 Oct 2011 04:50:13 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/13/voices-from-the-classroom-41/#IDComment207272321 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/06/voices-from-the-classroom-37/#IDComment204590960 . I still feel the “needy penis” has a huge influence in why nonconsensual sex crimes are as high as they are. But, I feel it wouldn’t completely disappear because there some sick women out their who are just chemically off-balanced or something and crazy. There are definitely some crazy people in the world, men and women alike, who do things that we cant even imagine any human being would be able to do. So there will defiantly be crazy women out their who do a terrible crime such as this just as there are men with the “needy penis’” Sat, 8 Oct 2011 01:20:08 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/06/voices-from-the-classroom-37/#IDComment204590960 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/06/voices-from-the-classroom-37/#IDComment204590879 Because they don’t speak up about how they have more racist hate crimes toward them than blacks, nobody know that this is occurring. It’s the “If it isn’t told, nobody knows about it” problem. We all think it’s the blacks who receive all the hate when it actually is Asians. This is similar to non-consensual sex in men and women. It may seem like men commit all of the nonconsensual sex crimes, when in all actuality women commit this crime also, but we don’t know this because men don’t speak about it. So it may seem like there wouldn’t be any nonconsensual sex crimes if it were a woman-ran world, but that could just be because we don’t hear very much about these crimes that women commit. The bottom line Is, I think that nonconsensual sex wouldn’t be annihilated completely, rather, it will dwindle significantly. Sat, 8 Oct 2011 01:19:51 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/06/voices-from-the-classroom-37/#IDComment204590879 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/06/voices-from-the-classroom-37/#IDComment204590746 This is a tough question. As we learned in class Tuesday, men have a lot of more different things going on down below than women. They are way more controlled by their “needy penis” , whereas women act upon a much more emotional factor when it comes to relations. Although, there are still reports of women who have taken advantage of men. Women commit crimes just as men do, its just in this society women either get off a little easier or men don’t speak of being taken advantage of by a women. Women are afraid to speak up because they are afraid of the isolation as a “fragile person” because she was taken advantage of, or she is afraid people will think she is just making it up. But men on the other hand, don’t want others to know they were taken advantage of by a women. They feel it would undermine their masculinity. The act of not speaking up about being mistreated is like what we learned in class about Asians. The study of comparing hate crime complaints and hate crime reports shoed more blacks complained, but more Asians actually received this hate. Sat, 8 Oct 2011 01:19:22 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/10/06/voices-from-the-classroom-37/#IDComment204590746 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/09/27/voices-from-the-classroom-24/#IDComment201593284 . I feel other schools should get the knowledge I learned in soc when it comes to financial aid, because I know there are people with similar thoughts that I have. I know at my high school, we were just raising money for the foreign countries instead of speaking to entrepreneurs of the country, and finding out what they need, and providing it for them so they can go about their daily workday more productively and efficiently. Sat, 1 Oct 2011 03:27:20 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/09/27/voices-from-the-classroom-24/#IDComment201593284 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/09/27/voices-from-the-classroom-24/#IDComment201593204 What they really need is for us to send them items to their entrepreneurs. If we send their entrepreneurs machines and items they need, they will be able to work more efficiently. They can advertise and get more business. They could get ideas from us so that we can buy their products. Also, if we send them means of transportation, like maybe bikes, they would be able to get to their products that they need for a day at their shops faster, and be able to get back to their shops and make their products faster and sell them quicker. Or maybe, we could just send them the products so they wouldn’t even have to leave their shops for the whole day. And they can produce even more products in the day and make even more money. This would help boost their economy, because instead of buying things off of each other which is way more expensive, we could buy and provide for them, which will help them boost higher and higher. Sat, 1 Oct 2011 03:27:04 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2011/09/27/voices-from-the-classroom-24/#IDComment201593204