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MLM Help Desk Home Of The Maverick Leader - Troy Dooly : Breaking Zeek Rewards News: SRN Denton To Represent Zeek Affiliates United Against What is Believed

Mon, 3 Sep 2012 20:47:52 +0000

@Gregg,

Sorry for the delay in getting this live.

Having met several anti-ponzi advocates, I can fully understand your passion at protecting folks and at being jaded. I have realized that part of my own passion for wanting the facts out on Zeek is to know beyond a shadow of a doubt one way or another.

Gregg, I would love to interview you. can you connect with me offline to schedule a time that works for you?

By the way I have asked many of the questions you have brought up. I am waiting until after the holiday to see if I get a response. Gregg, my passion for network marketing run deeps, and I do not want to see folks hurt period. I know that people have a freedom of choice, and I understand what has taken place can't be changed. But there are so many facts that have not been published, that require answers.

I look forward to talking live please email me at TroyDooly@MLMHelPDesk.com so we can schedule a time to connect. I feel that with answers to my questions and more insight from you as an expert, that some true educated value can be presented to the folks who are looking for the correct answers, and not just subjective opinion and at times depending on where they go false hope. As for me, I would never want to give anyone a false hope to what the future may be.

Living An Epic Adventure,

Troy

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Mon, 3 Sep 2012 11:44:46 +0000

@73Seven,

Thanks for sharing your opinion. I hope someday we have a chance to meet and can talk.

Living An Epic Adventure,

Troy

MLM Help Desk Home Of The Maverick Leader - Troy Dooly : Breaking Zeek Rewards News: SRN Denton To Represent Zeek Affiliates United Against What is Believed

Mon, 3 Sep 2012 03:22:55 +0000

@Gregg,

:) I do not embarrass at all. When I ask a question it is to learn. At times I have been known to make mistakes and at other times be completely wrong. But when those times happen I am also willing to admit them and move on. So at anytime you feel like you need to embarrass me to prove your point, feel free. No offence will be taken.

I asked you my question, because there are several promoters who are from countries where we do not (or did not) have treaties, like Costa Rica, Seychelles, Cyprus, and Panama. So my question was not one of a lack o knowledge it was specific to a huge situation, of where the majority of the funds are located. We already know that Paul Burks was not hiding any funds, there were wide open for all to find. The question remains of those who were international players (as in the hour long video of a Brazilian group in Paul's office). By the way there is a very good chance that some of the big winners could be from North Korea. It has already been reported that South Korean banks were used for processing, and we know from reading about the North Korean's they love to cause financial disruption by hording real and counterfeit US funds then dumping them in European locations.

I realized as educated as you are my questions seem irreverent, however most f the folks who come to this community are looking to well educated experts such as yourself for answers. If I ask a question, it is because many folks have asked me that question sir. And where I come from the only way to learn is to ask a question.

I realize some of my ranting may seem ignorant to you. But let me clear up one small item. I have never asked for RVG or Paul Burks to have their day in court. I have however ranted that the Complaint is nothing more than an allegation and that the legal team should have their day in court to defend their position. This sir was NEVER allowed because Paul Burks and his criminal attorneys never allowed it.

If any regulator is going to turn 2 million people into two classes of folks, victims and promoters, then the case like the other History Making Ponzi Complaints should have their day in court. And yes this is my ignorant opinion.

Another point, you are correct on, is that Paul Burks was allowed to enter "NO Contest" to the Complaint. I sure did not see Madoff or Stanford awarded this same slap on the hand. So tell me, do you really think a mastermind of a purported $600 Million (more than likely closer to $1 billion) ponzi scheme, should walk with a no context and a $4 million dollar fine?

By the way I am not an expert at anything, so I doubt if I give anyone a bad name. I have only covered one other purported ponzi and it was small, and did not last. So please do not think I am an expert at all.

As for your question of responsibility. First of all, unlike you I will not see this as a scam, until I see the evidence presented in a court of law before a Judge and/or Jury and it is both defended and questioned by both sides. And as I have mentioned publicly at that time I will gladly abide by the final ruling. But unlike you I happen to know just a little more about the inside situation and have talked to the folks who are experts at the math and the business, and if they had been given the opportunity to present their case, I firmly feel the outcome would have been far different, than a backdoor deal.

Not sure how much business I may or may not know. But, I know a little about direct selling. Without a doubt you are far more educated than I am, and I have learned a great deal from our small conversation. And for that I gladly thank you for taking time to educate both me and the community members.

I can tell by your question about money for an educated man, you have done very little due diligence of you would know that answer. But to educate you, so you do not have to waste your time. I report news that effects the distributors inside of network marketing. And if you go take a look at all I have stated in editorials and in the comment threads, you will quickly see I covered the facts, and did my best to provide solid answers to each situation that came up. I went to the 3rd party legal teams, consultants and compensation experts. I went inside and also asked questions. Then I reported what I learned. That my friend was not done for money, it was done because this one company cased more division inside of network marketing than any other company ever.

I did charge the company for my expenses when I went to speak on compliance at their events. From April until August I was paid $20K. And if you or anyone think that's enough to sway my reporting, then you may want to do the math. By the way this is old news. I have reported many times that the company paid my expenses. As an educated man, you seem to think money plays into everything in life. Ethics and principles are far more important than money. But with a little due diligence, you will find I am an open book, from my own colorful past and background to where I stand today. Again, for an educated man, you sure bring up a stupid argument.

ROFLOL... Well you got the ignorance right. As for arrogance and avarice... Well you are entitled to your opinions. One day maybe we can meet or start a conversation on the phone and you may quickly find your opinion is based on some very limited information.

Living An EPic Adventure, Troy

Gregg, as a post thought, when you have time something take a risk and listen to my daily radio show. You may find your opinion is far from the perceived truth you have about me.

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Mon, 3 Sep 2012 02:37:05 +0000

@Gregg,

Not totally sure as to what you think I am spinning? I have never debated anything about ponzi's and I fully support justice be applied to all people who knowingly promote a ponzi.

I was in full support of your letter, and I am not sure why you would think I was not. I thought I was clear it was a well written letter. If that was not clear, then I am sorry.

I do think it is clear at this time, based on what I have reported and what is on the front of the ZTeamBiz website, they represent Craddock and his company. And like you I am working to make sure if this goes through that a 3rd party administrator or the law firm themselves oversee the donated funds.

I am not sure they are looking to reverse the SEC decisions at all. I do think they are looking to question the Complaint itself. RVG is dead, and will never reopen. But, allegations are not judicial rulings, and all complaints from any regulatory body can be questioned in open court by any citizen of the USA. Heck from anyone for that matter.

You do have a point that since Paul Burks was the ONLY member of RVG LLC, he had the right to cut any deal he desires. However, since there are many lawsuits and possible criminal action still pending, this is far from over. And since the SEC has now alleged that close to 2 million affiliates worldwide were part of a ponzi. I am pretty sure that some of thes folks are going to push the issue. Personally, based on the facts and conversations I have had with folks, I do not believe it was a ponzi. I do agree it was flawed and that the RPP needed to be changed drastically (as I had presented both privately and publicly) or it needed to be removed. And as I have stated publicly, knowing the majority of revenue was coming from the sales of bids through the compensation structure, it could be seen as a pyramid, if outside sales were not drastically risen and fast. But I would love to see this case taken completely through the US Justice System to either prove the SEC allegations or prove the legal and compensation teams opinions.

Now I agree 100% that all folks who donate to this lawsuit need to be added officially if at all possible. They should not be used to finance someone else's legal defense. And I have sent a detailed email to Craddock asking for far more clarification.

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Mon, 3 Sep 2012 02:19:50 +0000

@Mortenxx,

Thanks for stopping by and adding value to this conversation. Let me clear up a couple of items.

1. Paul Burks doesn't own anything at all, and his interests are done. This lawsuit would possibly protect the business model and prove the allegations made by the SEC as false. If this were to happen and a judge and jury rule Zeek's business model was legit but flawed or weak, and the legal and compensation team are able defend their positions, then maybe folks might get some of their funds back. I am not sure if they could go after the SEC since Paul Burks signed a Consent.

2. Robert Craddock did do contract work for several MLMs including RVG. But as to how all the paperwork was arraigned and who he was contracted with is not fully clear at this time. I do know his work was focused on internet reputation management.

3. Greg Caldwell through WHS has a contractor and under contract as acting COO did work for Paul Burks through his company RVG.

4. So there are no other interests except his own and those affiliates who join his cause that he is protecting. All assets of RVG have been surrendered to the SEC and are under the control of the Receiver.

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Sun, 2 Sep 2012 11:52:30 +0000

@Gregg_Even,

Well written letter. There are a couple of items that might be up for discussion.

1. I know the Receiver wants to collect all the funds he can. But, he has NO or limited authority outside the USA. Many of the affiliates at the top were located in countries where the US doesn't have any form of Treaty to clawback the funds, and in a few counties where there are no laws governing what a Ponzi is or is not, so he may not be able to clawback funds. If that is exactly what he was referring.

So clawback on US citizens who were just good business folks and made money through building their organization, could be harmed by a clawback. Just because a person made money doesn't mean they were purposely doing anything illegal. Especially since this is just a complaint and the SEC has not had to defend their position in a court of law.

2. Do you not feel there needs to be a day in court in order for those effected to not know for sure if the SEC complaint can be defended or not?

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Sun, 2 Sep 2012 11:41:39 +0000

@Brother Mabe,

The reason this article is on the site, is because I fully believe all folks have a Right to their opinions and beliefs, even when they may disagree with mine.

Rod is a colleague, who totally disagrees with me on the Zeek issue, but who has a strong opinion and does want to help former affiliates based on his view of this situation.

Most of the time it is the anti-ponzi advocates who add value to the community. In this case, finally an insider is willing to provide information. Sadly like my other Colleague, the information came after the SEC filed their complaint.

Living An Epic Adventure,

Troy

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Sat, 1 Sep 2012 18:56:40 +0000

@Matt,

There is know dancing around. I was very clear in the very beginning of the video why I shot it. It was not based on what UPP has done today. It is based on what the folks are emailing and asking. They launched focused on a Penny Auction, and that is what the emails are asking about.

Great that they changed, facts are facts and the perception is reality.

You or anyone else assuming I did not know the penny auction has been scratched is... funny, but understandable.

MLM Help Desk Home Of The Maverick Leader - Troy Dooly : Breaking Zeek Rewards News: SRN Denton To Represent Zeek Affiliates United Against What is Believed

Sat, 1 Sep 2012 18:51:59 +0000

@Chris,

This important fact is front and center on the main website Z Team Biz. I think this might have happened after the Law Firm continued to get calls from affiliates :)

I disagree that we fed any lies or deception. If you take the time to listen to both videos I never mentioned a class action suit, and on the conference call, and the emails sent to those affiliates who joined the cause led by Craddock, and that Craddock was leading the charge.

Now the big concern is if the funds donated by affiliates to fight this will be administered through escrow of he law firm or a trust administered by a 3rd party.

I listened to both videos, and did not hear where I ever mentioned this was a class action suit. Many times I made it clear I was not fully clear on how it was working.

Now as to your answer on the Law Firm. When a law firm represents a client, and folks are calling asking about the case they have been hired for, then they will bill their client. If I call a law firm (and have many times) and they agree to talk with me, they bill their client. Not sure how many law firms you may have worked with, but they do not work for free. Even the small ones. :)

By the way, you do not have to pose anyone you are not. Just call and ask questions about Zeek and Craddock will get billed. It would be unprofessional of you or anyone else who is only wanting to use up the legal funds, but hey to each his own.

Chris, I have not pushed anyone towards any lawsuit. I have made it clear which lawsuit is focused on what. I have no skin in this game, but would love to see justice served for all. If after a public trial a Judge and Jury rule Zeek was a Ponzi based on the preponderance of the evidence, then fine. It the evidence points that Zeek was not a ponzi, then that fine also.

But all sides should have their day in court, and I will continue to report on things as they become known.

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Sat, 1 Sep 2012 18:25:59 +0000

@Chris Bailey,

Great question. I do not think I have ever mentioned JSS Tripler. But if I remember right that was part of Just Been Paid. If we are talking about the same program, then here is my thoughts. First of all they have no legal entity in which I or any of the other Critics have found located in the USA, or North America for that matter. Now that they have been purchased by Profit Clicking that may change, however at this time they are still only showing operations in South Africa.

And since the emails coming in are about JBP, I focused only on just been paid, not any anything that might be happening in the future.

If things change and folks continue to ask then I will go take a look.

Since the site has now changed, it now looks a lot like Banner Brokers which I also based on the program feel has issues. Kind of looks like a modern day ad surf program.

Now I can say that ProfitClickng as with Zeek and other programs feel it is important to add the disclaimer about Investments etc. That in and of itself is also a concern, knowing that with all the compliance Zeek had did not stop the SEC from filing a complaint for purported Ponzi activity due to the illegal promotion of the program from the field. (and the company in the beginning).

I did click on the "Legal Team: button, but it did not provide any info.

Some of the pages are still under construction on the new site, so only time will tell.

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Sat, 1 Sep 2012 01:47:31 +0000

@getupnow2008,

ROFLOL... Well, please share the names of those companies because I do not go after clients, especially controversial companies. But as you can tell I have no problem taking your comments public for all to see, so feel free to share the names of these owners you have talked with.

Living An Epic Adventure,

Troy

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Sat, 1 Sep 2012 01:42:47 +0000

@Miss Lisa,

I will be doing an update this next week.

Have a great weekend and thank you for taking time to share.

Living An Epic Adventure,

Troy

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Sat, 1 Sep 2012 01:41:42 +0000

@Josemlou,

Thank you for taking time to share your heart.

Now if you have time please inform me how I caused pain and blood to thousands of Zeek affiliates?

Not sure what you mean by videos. Zeek never paid me for videos. That was O.H. Brown and Robert Mitchem. Who did a wonderful job I might add at explaining what was legal and what was not!

So, you might want to make sure you have your facts correct before you write many more comments.

As for dreaming of Ponzi's ROFLOL... That was great!

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Sat, 1 Sep 2012 01:38:38 +0000

@Matt,

I always love it when folks become judgmental. :)

the company was launched as a penny auction to draw as many people interested in penny auctions to it. The founding distributors were in other penny auctions. So when Zeek went down many of the folks followed their uplines into it.

Now without a doubt UPP has many income avenues as I mentioned, but what drew folks to it was the penny auctions. They made a smart move to put it on the back burner until things cool down to decide if they want to bring it back.

But, the daily emails we get from hundreds of people across the globe ask the same question over and over based on many of the videos they have seen "Troy is the penny auction UPP safe to join?

Since the perception is still penny auction, I did roll that direction. But, sometime next week I will do two updates. One on BidiFy for the great changes they have made to their compensation plan and to UPP letting folks who might be interested know the penny auction is on hold.

So, feel free to stop following all you want. As for knowing where UPP is going, Lord knows I don;t, nor have I ever claimed I did. And I never claimed I was studying UPP daily or even weekly.

As for what to recommend, I wasn't recommending any company. I was making it clear folks that if members of any International Ponzi Ring joins any of those top four companies where former Zeek affiliates are moving that they could be in for a bumpy ride, if the SEC does the same thing they just did to Zeek.

But thank you for coming by and making clear your position. I respect that 100%!

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Sat, 1 Sep 2012 01:29:10 +0000

@Armando,

Not sure who you are talking to since you did not mention it.

No one is crashing anyone's dreams. However, if we did not provide concerns and share caution, then there is a possibility that what folks think are their dreams could become their nightmares.

It is not a matter of rights, it is a matter of responsibility. At no time do you or anyone else have to heed the concerns I put out. That is all within your right.

As for your statement "a good network marketer will never tell "don't join", well not sure who you run with but the most respected networkers in the world always are willing to give words of caution to their friends. And I look at everyone who comes to this community as my friend.

Which is why I of all people am very clear that as a networker with 30 years under my belt, I am willing to raise the bar and warn folks of concerns with companies. And if you or anyone else doesn't like it and feels I have lost credibility, then so be it. But if you join any company we have concerns on and it doesn't work out, then you will never be able to say "why didn't you warn me Troy?"

Living An Epic Adventure,

Troy

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Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:24:29 +0000

@Jah Kafele,

I am going to do an update on BidiFy. I think Frode's move to correct the weaknesses in the comp plan are fantastic. Although only time can tell, I feel it was the right move.

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Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:23:20 +0000

@LisaK,

Thank you for getting back to me on this.

The reason for the post, and I thought I explained it, was based on emails and questions we are receiving from former Zeek Rewards affiliates who are looking to join. And from the fact he original affiliates were joining based on the marketing of a Penny Auction. The perception of the prospective affiliate and from some of the residue marketing leftover from promoting penny auctions is what is important to me when helping to guide folks when that ask specific questions.

As changes come about we always update and make sure folks fully understand where companies have come from and where they are going. This is also why I answer comment and take them live even when they disagree with me :)

If people see the video and are doing their due diligence, then they will follow the links and read all they can. People tend to give me way to much influence when it comes to what adults will and will not do. Most will use the video as part of their due diligence, but they will follow they own heart and mind.

Again thank you for taking time to comment.

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Fri, 31 Aug 2012 16:13:00 +0000

@james12347,

I admire your willingness to share your frustration with me. Thank you!

Now let's take a little deeper look at what you wrote.

1. You mentioned I emailed you. Well we never delete emails that I answer and here is the email thread you and I had. Notice I NEVER told you I would put my money on Zeek or any other auction for that matter.

From: Dion [mailto:] Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 1:37 PM To: troydooly@mlmhelpdesk.com Subject: MLM Help Desk Contact: Question for troy zeek

To: Webmaster

From: Dion

Message:

Hi troy,

First i want to thank you for your awsome unbiased reviews on zeek. I know you don't have a crystal ball but do think zeek will hold up for the next couple of months as im considering getting into it.

I have been all over the internet looking for info and behind mlm has got me a little concerned thanks in advance god bless :)

From: MLM Help Desk [mailto:troydooly@mlmhelpdesk.com] Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:54 PM To: 'dionviles@gmail.com' Subject: RE: MLM Help Desk Contact: Question for troy Zeek

Dion,

Thanks for the kind words. You are right there are no crystal balls. However, I do not see any new red flags that would cause me concerns.

The fact the Zeek is part of a 15 year old company, who’s owner and management team has been able to weather four different changes in the internet and continue to make money corporately and for the affiliates who have been with them through these changes does show a solid track record.

Now, I will say this is their biggest undertaking to date, and the most risky, but through it all they have done very well to surround themselves with the best in each category to make sure they are doing everything they can do to operate well within regulatory laws.

Now, as for Behind MLM, Oz is a good blogger, and someone I respect. However, in many cases he has seemed to refuse to take into account US law in this situation, or to dig deep into understanding everything surrounding this business model.

I have heard his latest post came from a disgruntled insider, whom he may or may not be able to verify is truly someone from the inside and not just a frustrated former consultant or competitor.

I live by a very simple creed, “respect is given, trust is earned”. I have been blessed inside the network marketing community to have earned the trust of folks who run company’s and those in the field building the companies. I am hard, but fair and call it the way I see it.

Zeek still has a boatload of work ahead of them, but I have yet seen them back down from doing all they need to do to make this a long term business model.

Living An Epic Adventure, Troy"From: MLM Help Desk [mailto:troydooly@mlmhelpdesk.com] Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2012 5:54 PM To: 'dionviles@gmail.com' Subject: RE: MLM Help Desk Contact: Question for troy Zeek Dion, Thanks for the kind words. You are right there are no crystal balls. However, I do not see any new red flags that would cause me concerns. The fact the Zeek is part of a 15 year old company, who’s owner and management team has been able to weather four different changes in the internet and continue to make money corporately and for the affiliates who have been with them through these changes does show a solid track record. Now, I will say this is their biggest undertaking to date, and the most risky, but through it all they have done very well to surround themselves with the best in each category to make sure they are doing everything they can do to operate well within regulatory laws. Now, as for Behind MLM, Oz is a good blogger, and someone I respect. However, in many cases he has seemed to refuse to take into account US law in this situation, or to dig deep into understanding everything surrounding this business model. I have heard his latest post came from a disgruntled insider, whom he may or may not be able to verify is truly someone from the inside and not just a frustrated former consultant or competitor. I live by a very simple creed, “respect is given, trust is earned”. I have been blessed inside the network marketing community to have earned the trust of folks who run company’s and those in the field building the companies. I am hard, but fair and call it the way I see it. Zeek still has a boatload of work ahead of them, but I have yet seen them back down from doing all they need to do to make this a long term business model. Living An Epic Adventure, Troy

2. Well please feel free to educate me on Banner Brokers!

3. Now sure what you mean with MonaVie, I have never given MonaVie negative review. Please explain.

4. I never said BB had anything to do with Penny Auctions. I did however, state that some of the same highinternational income earners in Zeek are also In BB.

5. Show me another network marketing company licensed to do business and based in Canada which also has a AML Disclosure? If this is something news that the CSA is doing in Canada great. But in reviewing other legally licensed Canadian based companies (including my current clients) this is not the norm.

6. Why do you feel my credibility is shot? Because of Zeek? Then I guess all the legal, compliance and compensation experts should have seen what you saw?

7. I hope BB works out for you and I am wrong. :)

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Fri, 31 Aug 2012 15:25:39 +0000

@GetUupnow2008,

Hey thanks for stopping by and adding your opinion to this conversation. Let's look at a few of the statements where you are totally inaccurate and those where you raise great questions.

1. The argument of "endorsing" Zeek has run it course, but let's look at the current, since I have already addressed the past. I currently defend the US Constitution and the RIGHTS of every citizen and entity in the USA to due process. Based on the US Justice System we are innocent until proven guilty. ANd we have the RIGHT to a trial of our peers. So until a trial, which we will now see. you are 100% correct I will continue to defend the right of the legal team, executives, comp plan expert and others to defend their opinion that what they created was within the current laws which governed Zeek Rewards and any other penny auction or multi-level compensation structure.

If or better when a Judge and Jury rules on the facts as presented and argued in court, I will then accept the decision (once it has worked its way through the appeal process), and if any of the facts given to me were proven false, then I will report on that also.

2. I did not tell anyone not to join any company. I did caution folks who might be looking to join any penny auction and I was clear that I do not think Penny Auctions fit the definition of Direct Sales, and are not good for the network marketing community. This is not anything new, I have been saying most of this for months. The one new part is "not good for the network marketing community" In reviewing the aftermath of how companies and distributors have been effected, and the fact some of these folks had NEVER bought a bid, but their eWallet accounts with their own money is now frozen and may be for years, it is clear this situation has caused some devastation, to folks who were not directly part of the whole situation.

Part of living in America is being able to review the facts, see what happened, and warn others to be very careful. Now I could keep not report and let grown adults just go down whatever trail they decide. But that would be very irresponsible of me when I know specific things, and can provide opinion and commentary on others based on historical track record.

And there will be times when the trends change, historical track record, doesn't prove out the future and I will report and update things we report on. But I would rather error on trying to caution folks, than to let them go down a road, that may be devastating to them.

3. Why do you feel I did not due diligence? Is this because I wrote about BidiFy and Ultimate Power Profits after they had made changes (which we reported on in the case of BidiFy)? For a seemingly educated individual, you should have realized, that if I put these two into this editorial, then there was a good reason.

The emails and calls we have been getting have to do with these four companies, and all of them have had, or still have penny auctions, and that is why folks have joined them. UPP launched leading with their penny auction. Since they have added several additional income streams and we have talked about this right here in this community and across the social scene. I also wrote an editorial on BidiFy's changes which were a great move.

My reporting is not focused on what a founder ot executive team might want. It is driven by what we see at the grass roots level. When the grass roots think a company is a penny auction, and the questions they ask have to do with that, then I will do an editorial based on the perception of the masses. Then once I have their attention, we can then shed deeper insight into specific companies which are making huge changes.

4. Now let's look at consulting fees. Any company who contracts with me for consulting, know that part of the risk they take with me as written into my agreement, is they could still receive critical editorials based on the facts and perception of what is happening daily in the space. You like so many others seem to feel that ethics and principles are bought and sold for a few thousand dollars. Maybe with you it is, but folks who truly live and breath their mission are not for sale at any price.

BidiFy is a client, and that sure did not keep me from mentioning them in this video. So sadly your argument doesn't hold water, which shows you might want to get your facts straight before casting suspicion towards others. See when you look at the amount of companies we have done reviews on, you or anyone can quickly see there is no way all of them are clients.

Do I need to pay the bills and put food on the table... you bet! But the driving force is to provide as much information as we can to help folks in the home base world. It might be through our blog network, radio shows, consulting or speaking engagements but one way or another we will help folks get enough info to make informed decisions.

Now let's look at the banner packages... This may me laugh. I guess you must not have looked at the prices we charge? We purposely charge a low cost so the average distributor can afford to advertise. We do not have one company who advertises with us on our blog. I give Kevin Thompson a free ad, because he is my friend, ss I also do Richard Brooke who is my person mentor. Outside of that sport, we do not have any corporations advertising with us, they are all independent affiliates.

Now to the video editorials. Let's take a loom at those real quick. It seems you are very new to our community, or you would know I do my best these days to ALWAYS provide a positive outlook to any critical situation. A few years ago, we covered "MLM Scams" then we went to "High Risk MLMs" and I realized that was not fair to the company or the affiliates who were joining them. I also realized I was not living my creed of Walking Humbly, Acting Justly and Loving Mercy. So I moved to a new style of delivery, which I am sure I will continue to do as I grow as a person. Now I do my best, and fail often at delivering all information positive and critical, in a straightforward, heartfelt manner without judging those who are launching the companies or joining them.

The one time when I do not do this is when I know without a doubt, someone is truly trying to rip off the distributors and then I am far more judgmental.

Not sure why you do not feel I have talked to Kevin Thompson about any of this current situation? I can tell you this, Kevin Thompson as the attorney for BidiFy is held to certain confidentiality where he can't always share with me facts about a client. Again you are making some interesting statements. Had you done your due diligence, you might not be so judgmental. Just your statement "you refuse to do so" shows you do not have your facts straight but are making an assumptive argument without the facts. Hmm... The same thing you are accusing me of doing!

5. What exactly is my business model you are referring?

Let me share m business model for you and others since you seem to be very clueless about what I do for a living. There are four separate divisions to our business model. Consulting, Publishing, Media Production, and Speaking Network. Although all four work within the other, not all clients use all of our services.

And, I might add that all of our services are used by different home business niches, not just the direct selling industry. Hope this helps you understand a little about our business model.

Now you mention a red flag business model. In reality, if you had done your due diligence, you would see that covering "red flags" in companies is not part of the business model. It is part of the news, and a very small part at that. If you review the amount of companies we have covered, mentioned, and reviewed, you will quickly find that controversial companies with red flags is a very small part of this community. I will admit, three has been three companies we covered that caused the highest amount of the comment threads, Global Verge, My SHopping Genie, TVI Express and Zeek.

6. Now let's move to your statement of "shake down" Of all the companies we have ever covered which are classified as controversial, only two have ever become clients, BidiFy and Zeek. And in both cases, my reporting has not changed. Let's look at Zeek first.

My first reviews came out between @Dec 2011 through March of 2012. My agreement to speak at their events did not start until April of 2012, after I met with executives and 3rd party consultants to make sure the company was listening to their legal, compliance and compensation team.

I started reporting on BidiFy back in Feb or Mar of this year, and did not enter into an Agreement until June 2012. And since I just included them in my caution report above, I am not sure exactly how you come to your conclusion of me "shaking down" companies. Outside of these two, the only other company close to being controversial is Green Organics. And although they are clients, they do not engage with our consulting very much, due to the great leadership team they have on board these days. So your due diligence and conclusion is flawed and you may need to review your facts.

By the way, I do not think we have ever had a company call us for a paid review. When they learn what it would take and the amount of financial documentation they would need to provide, decide against it. I will gladly admit I would love to be the PwC of direct selling, but companies don't want that at this time

7. Now let's get to Zeek. You are 100% correct I accept no responsibility for what folks may or may not have done in Zeek. I reported many times on the reg flags, sought out answers for the affiliates, and agreed with critics in many areas, although never on the Ponzi side of things.

And, if you had taken time to review each video, editorial and comment thread, then you would know I have also publicly made it very clear what I thought of the RPP and how to fix it. And when you review the SEC complaint, you see the issue is the RPP.

I have defended the business model, based on all the information I have and in talking with the men and women who created it. From Kevin Grimes and going through his compliance course, to Keith Laggos and that he did to the compensation plan, to Gerry Nehra and how he had them change the ad copy and tweak the P&Ps and RPP to stay within regulations. I spent countless hours with Greg Caldwell to learn how many affiliates they had terminated and what they were doing to continue to clear up the marketing.

Then in April when the Burn Lounge judicial opinion came down, I went to the powers to be, and made a huge suggestion which would change the comp plan to tighten the RPP to be well within compliance. This included adding he qualifiers of 2,4,6,8,10 customers per affiliates in order to qualify for the RPP. Each customer must be outside the comp structure, and must have a minimum transaction amount that would be a minimum of $5 but more than lightly would have come in around $7 to $10 per transaction.

All of these plus many more changes were publicly announced to go into effect August 22nd 2012. And for reasons only known to the SEC, they decided to act one week to the day (publicly) prior to the changes going into effect. Had these changes taken place, momentum would have come to a grinding halt as everyone moved to become re-qualified. And as they re-qualified the amount of customers and sales volume outside of the comp structure would have been 2 to 10 times that of the affiliates.

Now to your statement "you personally profited from appearing at events" I did not profit, but did receive around $20K from April until Aug of 2012 to cover my expenses. Now with a family of 8 living at home that is $500 per mouth to feed. And now if you take out the hotel, airfare, food and car rental, then we can forget feeding anyone. Again, if you just did a little due diligence then you would know your facts and would not be making subjective arguments. Again what you suggest I do in my reporting. :)

Now to your statement on the " the SEC, the court appointed receiver and even Paul Burks himself admitting Zeek was a ponzi" Again your facts are not correct. The SEC has filed a complaint stating Rex Venture Group aka Zeek Rewards knowing ran a Ponzi Scheme. They then entered into a private deal behind closed doors with Paul Burks and allowed him to "neither admit or deny their allegations, gave them is company and agreed to a $4 million dollars. The SEC then requested a Receiver to determine where all the assets are located and who should get any money back and/or to collect any profits paid to folks who may not deserve them.

However at no time did this case ever go through the Judicial process of having a Judge and Jury review the complaint to prove it was accurate. And since the original complaint was filed, and as I reported, the numbers are not proving to not be accurate. Just last week the Receiver held a press conference to announce the amount of affiliates was closer to 2 million instead of 1 million. Something I have already reported on based on information I had. Since this is a foundational number, to the complaint we can come to a logical conclusion that the financial numbers will also be low in the complaint.

This by know means, proves the SEC Complaint of Zeek Rewards being a Poni is inaccurate. But it does have flaws, and for the rights of all involved a trial needs to be held to prove the SEC did not jump the gun. Citi Group just got fined $590 million dollars and did not admit wrong doing to a fraud case, and they are still doing business today. They got their day in court, as should the affiliates who have been effected by this situation.

Maybe you believe we are just suppose to blindly follow our Government, but I for one realize we live in a Republic, and the US Constitution should always be followed. Once Justice proves out he facts and comes to a final conclusion, then and only then will I report that Zeek Rewards was anything but a mismanaged company with a weak compensation plan, which if the new well respected executives had been given a chance, could have fixed the issues.

But once the trial is over, I will report just as loudly the facts no matter which direction they flow.

By the way I will never personally admit I hurt anyone. And if you or anyone else pulls their head out of the sand, and read everything I have ever written, spoke or answers, then you will see I have provided the facts all along the way. And I even shot a video stating if "Zeek Rewards, DubLi Network and Co2 Rewards" were tha last two companies in the world with a comp plan and I was going back in the field I would join DubLi Network! I am sure you just missed that one it can happen to all of us.

By the way, I also have another reason for demanding their day in Court... I believe the legal, compliance and comp plan teams should have their day in court to defend their opinion that based on the changes that Zeek made at their guidance made it a ligit business model. It would seem to me, as someone who seems to care about the people hurt you would want the same thing also. Do you not feel the experts who created this business model should be held responsible also, by defending and proving why they created it? Lord, man these same folks are helping other companies right now as I write this. If they are wrong, then how many other lives could be harmed? However, if they are right, 2 million may get some of their money back.

Now as for sleeping at night. Well I do very little of that these days because I am willing to answer each email that comes in former Zeek Rewards Affiliates from around the world providing them answers and direction on where to get more detailed answers.

So where as I respect your RIGHT to express your opinion, I think facts help to bring stability to those opinions. I do hope some of what I have shared will give you some deeper understanding to what I stand for and how our business model works. Personally the energy it takes covering risky business models, is very draining, and it is far more fun to cover traditional network marketing companies. However since independent business owners guide the conversations through their emails we report where the flow of affiliates are moving at the time.

As for the "disguised Patriotic" statement... Well, it is easy to see who's side you would have been on in the Revolutionary War and the War of North Aggression.

Now to the most important statement you made... "please don't approve this post this to be viewed publicly and then scream and yell about how I personally libeled/slandered you causing you irreparable harm and damages."

Just this one statement goes to show how little due diligence you have given to who I am and what I stand for!

Living An Epic Adventure,

Troy

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Fri, 31 Aug 2012 13:31:41 +0000

@jcb1014,

Caution is what we all need to do. To many folks are running and jumping based on the money story, instead of slowing own to determine if the company is a good fit. UPP and BidiFy have already made huge changes, bu the story on the net has not caught up yet, based on the emails I am getting.

This next week I will cover a few of these companies separately to show changes they have made which hopefully will keep the Ethically Challenged away. :)

To your question. The long arm of the law, can reach to most countries and many of them work together. In reviewing the SEC Complaint we see they are already working with the CSA in Canada, and I am sure as the Receiver goes through the records, as well as the Secret Service or the FBI, as they run across known criminals, they will be notifying those countries as well as building a local case in the USA.

The good news is as they weed out these known criminals, those funds will be added to the victim fund for refunds.

As for abusing the system, I believe there were affiliates in both the USA and Internationally who were abusing the system. Was tis abuse wide spread is hard to tell. But when you have a database of close to 2 million people, even a small percentage is a huge number.

I think red flags are pretty clear. When a business model is built around and leads with a money story, instead of the underlying products or services, we have issues. When you look at the legacy companies inside of network marketing they lead with products, and even when they hit attrition in the network their sales continue to rise in most cases.

I hope this helps.

Living AN Epic Adventure,

Troy