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15 years ago @ The New Civil Rights M... - Yet Another New Poll S... · 0 replies · +4 points

Reality is a liberal conspiracy. It's true.

16 years ago @ Breitbart.com - Vaccines on horizon fo... · 2 replies · +1 points

HIV is the #1 killer of women 18-44 worldwide.

16 years ago @ Breitbart.com - Sick Elton John postpo... · 1 reply · -4 points

It appears that the average 13 year old boy is more mature and less bigoted than the average "Christian conservative" on this board. Very telling.

16 years ago @ Breitbart.com - Nearly one in three pe... · 1 reply · -1 points

I suppose you're willing to have unprotected sexual intercourse with an HIV+ woman? And I wonder how all of those Africans are dying of this disease, they must all be gay.

16 years ago @ Breitbart.com - Unemployment tops 10 p... · 1 reply · -1 points

The recession began before Obama took office, a little sanity please.

16 years ago @ Jason A Clark - The Senate Trying To S... · 1 reply · +1 points

Interestingly enough, I just spent time time to look over the actual bill:

"(2) VIOLENT ACTS- This Act applies to violent acts motivated by actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin, gender, sexual orientation, gender identity or disability of a victim.

(3) CONSTITUTIONAL PROTECTIONS- Nothing in this Act shall be construed to prohibit any constitutionally protected speech, expressive conduct or activities (regardless of whether compelled by, or central to, a system of religious belief), including the exercise of religion protected by the First Amendment and peaceful picketing or demonstration. The Constitution does not protect speech, conduct or activities consisting of planning for, conspiring to commit, or committing an act of violence.

(4) FREE EXPRESSION- Nothing in this Act shall be construed to allow prosecution based solely upon an individual’s expression of racial, religious, political, or other beliefs or solely upon an individual’s membership in a group advocating or espousing such beliefs."

To be honest, I'm not very interested in the entire world, or jurisdictions that don't have 1st amendment protections. If every law was invalidated because a police officer made an improper arrest there would be very few laws still on the books.

16 years ago @ Jason A Clark - The Senate Trying To S... · 3 replies · +1 points

I don't believe the bill will do that much to deter hate crimes, but I see the bill as pretty much harmless. I just don't see the constitutional protections against free speech being interpreted away anytime soon. The judicial branch could do tons of things, but at some point you have to have faith in the constitutional system of government. And yes, you are lying by presenting a highly circumstantial case against the bill as fact, as if it is certain to protect pedophiles and silence pastors. If a pedophile is ever protected by this bill or if a pastor is ever imprisoned, I'll join the Republican party and buy you a beer.

I expect the bill to pass so we'll see.

16 years ago @ Jason A Clark - The Senate Trying To S... · 5 replies · +1 points

I've already refuted the "sexual orientation" argument by showing how the word is defined. "Sexual Orientation" has a simple meaning, which is heterosexual, homosexual, and bisexual, and certainly does not include 100's of paraphilias.

The rest of your argument amounts to a slippery slope. Nothing in the bill limits or could be interpreted to limit speech. It uses the very same language that has been used for hate crimes legislation for decades. Saying that pastors will be prosecuted for saying homosexuality is a sin is blatantly untrue, and if the government ever oversteps its authority, I will be with you 100%.

Honestly, I don't care if you make a 'slippery slope' argument, but lying about the effects of the actual contents of the bill is disgraceful. Everytime a senator gets a letter about "100's of paraphilias" they must roll their eyes

16 years ago @ Jason A Clark - The Senate Trying To S... · 7 replies · +1 points

The bill simply amends the 1969 hate crimes bill that has protected race and religion for 40 years to include sexual orientation. There is no additional language. Additionally the Supreme Court precedent only applies when a crowd is directly incited to riot, and would still apply regardless of this law.

Anyway, greetings from West Texas.

16 years ago @ Jason A Clark - The Senate Trying To S... · 9 replies · +1 points

First of all, if there is a bill out there that limits the speech of anybody, this isn't it. This bill only applies to act of violence. I have a plane to catch in a few hours, I'll continue this later.

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