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9 years ago @ Equestria Daily - Finding Love Through P... · 0 replies · +36 points
9 years ago @ Equestria Daily - Even Miley Cyrus is Re... · 1 reply · +2 points
Once again, you are trying to derail the conversation. I am not, and never did say that you can't dislike her, or even hate her. Nor did I say people shouldn't have a negative reaction towards her bad behavior – don't put words in my mouth. You seem to have either missed the point, or ignored my previous comment – my problem with this situation is that as of right now, in this case, people show negative reaction towards one of the few cases of her GOOD behavior. I mean come on – how in the world is showing support to us a bad behavior?
As for 'giving her a chance': Right now, she seems (!) to have good intentions regarding the show and the fandom. Why chase her away? Sure, you can have your doubts whether there is some ulterior motive in her behavior, yes, but you can't penalise her on doubts alone. Similarly, you are fully entitled to carry a dislike for her because of her past deeds, but then you should show your negative reaction in relation to those deeds, and not to this one! Let's say, hypothetically, that she is trying to redeem herself in some way (I'm not saying she is, I say she potentially could be). If you chase her away like that, or provide massive negative reaction at the very beginning, you might discourage her from it, as "They won't accept me anyway, I'll forever be the evil broad, why even try?"
9 years ago @ Equestria Daily - Even Miley Cyrus is Re... · 3 replies · +3 points
Do you see the problem there? She is trying (or at least seems to be trying - I can't claim I know her real intentions) to somehow support MLP and the fandom, and we return the favour by being mean and insultive. That just doesn't seem right to me, no matter who the person showing support is.
9 years ago @ Equestria Daily - Even Miley Cyrus is Re... · 0 replies · +3 points
Still, I think that bronies should give Miley a chance. Perhaps she simply found a show she likes, and wishes to lend her support in some way. There is nothing wrong with that that I can imagine, and as such, I believe a small token of appreciation or even just acknowledgment is in order, rather than 'OMG how dares she show support to us! She's like a plague - anything she touches is forever tainted and she's basically damaging us and giving us cancer and who knows what else!' Should it turn out she's just trying to boost her career at our expense or similar, then by all means, go ahead and rage at her. But I think we should all wait before and if that happens, rather than punish her for something she didn't do.
9 years ago @ Equestria Daily - Even Miley Cyrus is Re... · 1 reply · +1 points
I compared her to autists because, just like her in your worldview, they happen to give bronies a 'bad image' in certain circles. It was a purposeful hyperbolical simile which's point was to highlight the ridiculity of your outlined logic. Since your initial logic seemed to be 'If it gives us bad image, we should distance ourselves from it', I assumed the responsibility for the image was irrelevant, as you didn't mention it.
I have never ever tried to force you into anything – it sounds like yet another part of your strawman argument. As outlined above, I'm merely trying to suggest ('suggest' does not equal 'force') that we should keep an open mind and judge her by her actions AFTER those actions actually happen, not before (talking about actions related to the fandom and MLP of course). For all we know, she might have found a show she honestly likes and from which she can learn quite a bit. If we go and tell her we dislike her and that she shouldn't be in the fandom, etc., all we achieve is driving her away from the fandom, potentially even from the show itself, thus making her learn nothing, and effectively preventing her from making the change that you yearn for. I do not say that this is the case, I say that it COULD, theoretically, be the case, and we should act accordingly.
9 years ago @ Equestria Daily - Even Miley Cyrus is Re... · 3 replies · +4 points
There is also a second part of the argument: why should we even try to bow down to people's ignorance and try as hard as we can to prevent a logical fallacy? It makes no sense whatsoever! Those smart know that the whole argument is invalid, and the not-so-smart will do as they always do - believe whatever they want, regardless of evidence. Indeed, it is my opinion that first and foremost should come the fandom itself - we know that Miley Cyrus doesn't represent us, and what do we care about what some ignorant troglodyte thinks?
Lastly, it is not just about enjoying the show, it is also about being a part of the fandom. Of interacting with other bronies. And that can indeed be hampered by us 'not accepting her'. I mean refuse a fan on the basis of image? Many people call bronies autistic - shall we ban autists from the fandom next? Or 'neckbeards'? Will there be some kind of committee that decides who is allowed to be a part of the fandom, and who is not? Of course not. I say, let anyone join, and see how they behave inside the fandom, towards the fandom. If they are rude to other fans, visibly try to shovel dirt on ponies, etc., then yes. By all means, go and tell them they are no longer wanted, ban them from all kinds of convention and meetups, and submit an article in the papers, informing the world that that person is not a brony. But until then, please try to keep an open mind and treat Miley Cyrus and whoever else decides to join like any other fan.
9 years ago @ Equestria Daily - Early Morning Discussi... · 0 replies · +1 points
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9 years ago @ Equestria Daily - Even Miley Cyrus is Re... · 0 replies · +9 points
9 years ago @ Equestria Daily - Even Miley Cyrus is Re... · 12 replies · +11 points
It is also questionable just how many of the people who criticise her here actually dislike her, and how many shout obscenities at her just because she happens to be unpopular on the internet.