If any of the local charitable organisations that Willms\' signed up for when he became a philanthropist tuned into a local radio show from CBC called \"Edmonton AM\", they certainly would\'ve heard something to make them think.

The audio of the whole Willms\' piece is here:
http://www.cbc.ca/edmontonam/episodes/2011/06/14/...

In it they\'d hear details of his earlier legal confrontations with Microsoft etc, the current FTC slammer and also quite detailed stuff from the on-going investigation from Canadian Competition Bureau. This organisation can bring civil OR criminal proceedings, the penalty for which can be up to 14 years in the nick!

Unfortunately, the maximum financial penalty is declared as $200k, which for Willms must be a drop in the ocean.

Without knowing too much Canadian law, I can\'t say if these figures are correct or if they even tell the whole tale, but the key point is that the Competition Bureau in Canada seems to have more legal clout for Canadians than the FTC does for Americans!

I for one will certainly be watching how this develops!

Ha Ha! They've got bog-all-else to do up in them thar hills, you know! The mines finished ages ago, the steelworks similarly. All they have is a crisp factory and that pub where time has stood still, at least from it's appearances!

I think we came across that Fairhills Av address in Dipton a month or so ago - but apart from that.... well done again! I think we found it was connected to that Essex porn place... Saying that, the sheer amount of stuff registered in Fairhills Av coming off that Google search you've done, is just staggerring.

That webcops post is just like the thing I did when I contacted happy little smiling Bobby Allen. Same thing. Not only can you not get off the lists, but the quantity exponentially increases! So thanks for that as well. I'll check through their stuff later.

On the subject of spam, I had an interesting one this morning... These are all dead links - so copy and paste into your browser at your peril - I haven't looked. This is the post:

Best child porn - Especially for muslim!
Lolita Godleski [yvkiss@datumweb.com]
Muslim people, have a look at best child porn with unbelieved white kids, go to sexklassniki.com All the money will be route to muslim community in UK and European countries.
If you want to earn money as webmaster, register at eropay.ru Let's make money together!

P.S. If eropay.ru not work, please chek other url eropays.ws ero-pays.com eropays.ru

Allah Akbar! Alkaeda forever!

__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4194 (20090628) __________

The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus.

http://www.eset.com

Needless to say, the title activated my inquisitional tastebuds by it's very incongruousness! Here's the crack:

sexklassniki.com is in Pskov Oblast, the first bit of Russia after Estonia & Latvia. The wikipedia article http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pskov_Oblast has a breakdown of it's population. There are no Muslims!

Eropay.ru and the rest are all hidden owners (called 'Private Person') but all domains that I checked are hosted in the UK e.g.
91.212.210.221
91.212.210.204
91.212.210.203

These have the details as:
org-name: Seva-Host Ltd
org-type: OTHER
address: 78 Marylebone High Street
address: W1U 5AP, London, United Kingdom

The contact at this place has the very British sounding name of:

Vadim Prokopenko

Now I don't want to make connections at this early stage, but I got pulled into North London some time ago when checking out all the Google Treasure Bollox...?

Vadim is either in or above "The Natural Kitchen" shop! I kid ye not!

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Of course, if Vadim is behind this and IS actually in London, he'll probably get his collar felt soon.

Hi mate.
As far as I can tell, 78252 wasn\'t recovered - intact. The peer-reviewed wikipedia article, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/B-52_crash_at_Thule_... , makes this clear. Unless you are partial to some extra information, I can\'t agree with you.
Apart from the non-recovery of all parts of the exploded bomb, there is continuing fallout (pun intended) from the event even now, both political, social, scientific and legal. Tons of contaminated ice were collected from the smashed and exploded weapon, although most nuclear material is supposed to have gone through the ice after the resulting fire.
This webpage, http://www.ejection-history.org.uk/Aircraft_by_Ty... , about halfway down, says the extra pilot (Capt. Leonard Svitenko) on the mission was killed on the bailout after he hit the plane aerials. His death doesn\'t appear anywhere else to my knowledge.

However, this is all a moot point.

The whole point of my post was a critical look at the BBC\'s reporting of \"news\" when exactly the same stuff was reported 8 years previously, plus an observation on the numerical significance of the number. This made the reasons for later article\'s publication somewhat suspect in my view. Piecing together a bit of timeline,

BBC initial report tijmed for Hiroshima anniverary - 2000
Last Scientific monitoring of the crash site - 2003
Last BBC news article on the same subject - 2008

...And that\'s the point. The timing of this \"news\" event seems suspect to me... It has no sense apart from someone either making a political point of some sort OR it\'s an example of the old newspaper and magazine trick of re-hashing an old story to fill space.

@Not Kevin
Same as before - thanks for the info - .....and WHY am I not surprised to see Robert Allen's name pop up?? !!!

...it also looks like Steve Comer is following my tips about completing address information. Actually, it just shows the contempt for running a proper business that these people have, doesn't it? I hope the FTC see that one! If that's the way to register a legal business then I'm a cuckoo.

And when @gregw said

the main players are all in Utah, where they are protected by the government and laws

...your reference to that Salt Lake City investigation bears his comment out. Staggering, absolutely staggering.

@Not Kevin
You've been very busy again! Keep it up - I've had limited opportunities for research over the past few days. There are a few Suddick directorships in that area, so we can probably expect a few more address changes! Complaints Board is full of the horror stories on this particular operation...
But in the mean-time, here's that pub!

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Apparently, "time has stood still here" according to a cycling review!
http://www.c2c-cycling.com/consett.html

Also, check:
http://www.creditgate.com/directorsearch/directors_su_9.aspx
http://www.checksure.biz/Director/VICTORIA+SUDDICK-2956557.htm

This is a big, big, complaint about this lot: http://www.complaintsboard.com/complaints/blazingwords-866-200-5186-cy-c207385.html

And this is the ABC "review" of Google Treasure Chest you mentioned - well spotted!
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/video?id=6873094

@Jon C
Your tale is like many others I've seen (if you take the time to go through the hundreds of similar personal testimonies to yourself ON THIS POST ALONE! - you'll see what I mean)

It's good that you were persistent as this seems to be a common trait among those who've got their money back (some people had no trouble, to be sure, but most have quite a struggle).

Firstly, you paid by debit card - I'm not sure of this. Most folks use a credit card online. Even so, your bank should follow your instructions, I'd have thought. If you tell them that an illegal fraudulent transaction has been made against you and another is due, then they may act differently. Use the word "fraud". It seems to work.

People HAVE been charged many times - some have lost thousands! So don't let them fool you that it isn't fraud, don't let them con you that their terms and conditions are okay - as they're not.

YOU thought you were paying 1.95 for something. It never arrived. Then you had an unexpected withdrawal that you didn't spot when purchasing your thing for 1.95 ... ... = fraud mate. Plain and simple.

ASAP make a formal complaint to the UTAH AG and your own state's AG. If enough people do this, then someone will pick up on it. The Texas AG has a case against some of it, but it's a huge beast of twisted rotten people swimming in a vast network of linked cesspools of filthy crime. Trust me. They are not nice. Their actions prove it and I judge people by their actions.

Finally, Google Inc make money on every advert click(so don't be surprised - you are right!). It can be as much as a dollar for a click on a paid-for adsense thing that makes money. This is why Google do nothing - they make cash. However, as the scammer has to pay for the scam ads, I'm now advising people to click on them. They are everywhere, even the anti-scammmer websites! But each time you click, even if you do nothing, it's money straight FROM the scammers pocket, and maybe, that's as good a way to hit them as any!

See this link for more on this.
http://strangelyperfect.tv/4308/google-revolution-different-name-same-scam/#comment-1580

Rees

Cor be-jesus @Not Kevin!
I'll have a look later at this lot - the day job beckons... But it seems like a nightmare of clean teeth smiles and hands in other people's pockets.

Two things though:

Is Idaho Falls anywhere near Sioux Falls?
Were The Osmonds mormons and didn't they have clean teeth?

ALSO, we've been to Steve Comer's end of the road address before:

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Over and out!

@gregw2
Crikey. I don\'t know much about the mormons. You\'ve a valid query about the connection twix Durham & Utah.

Is it the same in Nevada and Wyoming? There are a similar (and an increasing number of) schemes in those states as well, but you\'re right - it does seem to centre round Utah. Still, the finance companies aren\'t based there, and if enough people find out about this stuff and institute chargebacks instead of fannying around with emails and calls, then it\'ll hurt their pockets. Their continuing bad karma will build up against the scammers, of that I\'m sure. How this will manifest itself, I don\'t know. But I do know that America has a load of guns and people have been known to take the law into their own hands. Please note that I\'m not suggesting this as a remedy, but the long litany of lone killers going beserk points to one possible scenario.

(BTW. I was born in County Durham although that part is now in Tyne & Wear!)

Ha Ha. How *did* you find that parody site?

Yeah. When I said they "actually taking note of FTC rules", I didn't make it clear that they were not abiding by them in any way! My point was that they are responding to criticism by making it appear that they are doing something about it.
Clearly, it's the same old side-shifting dance.

BTW. One thing I've found helpful when filling in their forms is to use official USA addresses from either major news organistions or government institutions. These are all widely available in the contact pages.
This way, if there is any postcode(Zip Code) validation going on in the background, you can punch through it. Sometimes I need to use a proxy to fool them I'm in the USA, but usually, it doesn't matter.
A further benefit is that when (not if!) they start spamming you with more "opportunities", it's the official organisations that get the shit, and so, if the big guns want, they have a ready supply of evidence for any investigations they may wish to pursue.
I know it's a bit underhand, but large organisations generally have good spam filters anyway and their investigative resources are much greater than mine. IMHO it's all grist to the mill to fight back against the scum.

After my experiment when I only used three different email aliases, the sheer increase in related spam means I don't use my own any more. I'm still getting shedloads of stuff from that experiment and it's quite interesting and instructional to see the various emailing floods come and go along with the variations in emailing addresses. From this, I get first hand knowledge of the "next big thing"!!

Thanks again for your work @Not Kevin. That's one helluva Saturday night you've had!

I've spotted neat one here where they're actually trying to formulate some rules and exclude themselves from any blame of their "affiliates". They are actually taking note of FTC rules..

https://goge3lo.secureordersmanager.com/?affiliateid=hdsunggl1

However, notable by their abscence on this sign-up page and the links at the footer, are

any contact details apart from a phone number.

There is no geographical location for the business.

But they've cunningly wangled themselves out of this with their phrase:

OUR COMPANY DOES NOT WARRANT OR MAKE ANY REPRESENTATION REGARDING USE, OR THE RESULT OF USE, OF THE CONTENT IN TERMS OF ACCURACY, RELIABILITY, OR OTHERWISE. THE CONTENT MAY INCLUDE TECHNICAL INACCURACIES OR TYPOGRAPHICAL ERRORS, AND COMPANY MAY MAKE CHANGES OR IMPROVEMENTS AT ANY TIME.

SP - my emphasis.

So that's alright then.