en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/441208 Comments by smokejumper3440 http://patriotupdate.com/stories/read/4460/League-of-The-South-Statement-on-Arizona-lawsuit-2-Choices-for-the-Sovereign-State-of-Arizona#IDComment90479363 unless it gets so bad that the division in america is nullified, half of the country will still support him. with that kind of support, the supreme court will never turn on him. without the supreme court ruling in favor of impeaching him, along with house and senate, the US military will be forced to defend him. after all, like it or not, he is still the commander in chief. Being ex-military I know that as well as anyone. Ther is no way the american people will take on the american military, and still have a country worth claiming in the end. Or one that the rest of the world would take seriously. We HAVE to do this through the non-violent means that our constitution gives us. Please lets not forget about the constitution, or else what are we fighting for? Tue, 3 Aug 2010 02:58:04 +0000 http://patriotupdate.com/stories/read/4460/League-of-The-South-Statement-on-Arizona-lawsuit-2-Choices-for-the-Sovereign-State-of-Arizona#IDComment90479363 http://patriotupdate.com/stories/read/4460/League-of-The-South-Statement-on-Arizona-lawsuit-2-Choices-for-the-Sovereign-State-of-Arizona#IDComment90478637 Ron, here is the major problem I see. This november we have a very good chance to take back both the house and senate. unfortunately we will not get two thirds in both to cancel out veto power. in order to impeach him, we have to have two thirds vote, and we wont have it. impeachment will not happen, so we have to deal with that. we have to vote him out in 2012 then try our best to repair the damage. which could take many years. taking the country back by force is the last thing we want to try and i'll explain why. Tue, 3 Aug 2010 02:52:04 +0000 http://patriotupdate.com/stories/read/4460/League-of-The-South-Statement-on-Arizona-lawsuit-2-Choices-for-the-Sovereign-State-of-Arizona#IDComment90478637 http://patriotupdate.com/stories/read/4460/League-of-The-South-Statement-on-Arizona-lawsuit-2-Choices-for-the-Sovereign-State-of-Arizona#IDComment90094616 What we really need in this time of crisis, is for the republican party to grow a pair. we need to weed out the john Mcains and the Lindsey grahams (nancy gramnesty). that want to compromise us right into oblivion. We need hard nosed conservatives that are not afraid to tell the truth and call a lie a lie. Have you ever wondered why sarah palin and michelle bachman are the two most respected and admired republicans around, much more so than all of the weak kneed pansies that we have setting in congress right now. When was the last time you saw a conservative blasting a liberal on a sunday morning news show, the shows with all of the uninformed americans viewing? A note to the republican party: Grow a pair and speak up or take a nice long vacation and get the hell out of the way! Sun, 1 Aug 2010 02:57:21 +0000 http://patriotupdate.com/stories/read/4460/League-of-The-South-Statement-on-Arizona-lawsuit-2-Choices-for-the-Sovereign-State-of-Arizona#IDComment90094616 http://patriotupdate.com/stories/read/4460/League-of-The-South-Statement-on-Arizona-lawsuit-2-Choices-for-the-Sovereign-State-of-Arizona#IDComment90093575 The economic nightmare we are in, was not due to the big oil companies, or even wall street for that matter. It was set in motion when Bill Clinton gave the CRA (community reinvestment act) the teeth that bit us in the backside. Face it gang, we are in for a LONG fight. We have to stay focused, and it has to stay peaceful. the minute we become violent, they win! Even if we take back both the house AND senate in November, we will NOT have the two thirds majority needed to repeal anything, nuch less impeach the president. Face it, we are stuck with this MADMAN for at least two more years. But look at how far the Tea arty has come in less than two years. and we did it peacefully. Folks, Now is the tim for the boots to hit the ground. The future of this country is at a crossroads and the only way to save it is for all of us to get involved. Sun, 1 Aug 2010 02:48:05 +0000 http://patriotupdate.com/stories/read/4460/League-of-The-South-Statement-on-Arizona-lawsuit-2-Choices-for-the-Sovereign-State-of-Arizona#IDComment90093575 http://patriotupdate.com/stories/read/4460/League-of-The-South-Statement-on-Arizona-lawsuit-2-Choices-for-the-Sovereign-State-of-Arizona#IDComment90093554 Hey guys and gals, please lets keep our heads and keep our cool. the last thing we need is for states to start packing their bags. The progressives have been putting this play into action for more than 100 years. If they divide us, they win. If we get frustrated and give up, they win. The precedents for these actions were set in place by FDR, Wilson, and truman. All of this is straight from the manifesto of bill ayers and the weather underground. Sun, 1 Aug 2010 02:47:53 +0000 http://patriotupdate.com/stories/read/4460/League-of-The-South-Statement-on-Arizona-lawsuit-2-Choices-for-the-Sovereign-State-of-Arizona#IDComment90093554 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment21493851 As much as I dont want to give up on 912, have you found any other website that seems to be banding people together, or has called for action from its members. Anyone out there organizng us? We have the potential to make Acorn or Move on dot org to seem miniscule and inconsequential. But we have to do it together. Our childrens futures are at stake here. Please let me know what you have found. Thanks, Trying to keep the faith, Jim Fri, 15 May 2009 03:16:06 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment21493851 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment21493842 I live in rural Ohio, so I dont have a really big community to starta movement in. I have never been more scared for my country and our liberties in my life than I am right now. If the conservative movement ever needed true leaders to come forth and solidify us, I dont know when. The tea parties were a great start, but it seems like we have let that slip into the history books, washington has blown that off by now, and we dont seem to be doing any follow up to keep us fresh in their minds. 25 million conservatives individually, with no structure is not that much of a threat to washington. They know we are wandering aimlessly. But 10 million banded together, demanding them to be accountable, will scare the daylights out of them. I am really nervous because I havent seen that banding together. Fri, 15 May 2009 03:15:50 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment21493842 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment21493816 HELP, Anyone? Can anyone tell me what is going on? Unfortunately, I am not able to spend as much time as I would like on the site. I was really getting excited when people finally started talng about getting this site organized, thewhole 11 panel members, each panel member taking a group of volunteers to do research and report back to the group as a whole. There have been a lot of really good ideas posted, but it really seems that that has fizzled out. The 912 site seems to be no more than a site for people to vent, it doesnt seem to be accomplishing a whole lot more than that. Fri, 15 May 2009 03:15:11 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment21493816 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1421#IDComment21422289 I think Hitler would have given his eye teeth (without Novacaine) to have what Obama has at his disposal. As I have said before, I am VERY afraid of what this administration could and would do to our constitution. He has already proven he has no problems with outright and blatant disregard for it, I am aazed there arent 15,000 Law Suits in the courts already, but then again would even the courts stand up to him. I worry that we may not have the opportunity to vote him out of office. I sincerely hope that you and I are just letting our emotions get thebest of us and none of this becomes reality, BUT........ This makes FDR, Wilson, and Hoover looks like childs play!!!!!! Thu, 14 May 2009 03:40:31 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1421#IDComment21422289 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1421#IDComment21422271 sanity, (give it a few more months like the few weve already had and you make have to change your name to FoundInsanity) I wish I could be a beacon of hope, but sorry, that seems to be reserved for "the annointed one". I agree with you completely, he is weakening our defenses, seting up his own alliances around theworld, and personally trying to grab the nations economy for his own purposes. One point that I would argue though, is that I dont beleive that HE has set himself to this task. I think he is a puppet, having his strings pulled by someone much more dangerous hiding behind the scenes. NO ONE soars from a community organizer in chicago, to president of the united states, with absolutely no experience, and without any vetting, scrutinizing, hard questions having to be answered, or showing and qualifications at all, without someone else pulling some major strings behind the scenes. Cont.... Thu, 14 May 2009 03:40:08 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1421#IDComment21422271 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1421#IDComment21421446 Erika, I finaly found you, I havent been online for a cople of days and , WOW, I cant follow the threads. Can you give me an updte as to where the movement is now (as far as the 11 panel members, etc.) who's on board? what ideas are we looking at? Just kind of give me a general update? email me at jknisley@netzero.net Thanks, Jim Thu, 14 May 2009 03:18:42 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1421#IDComment21421446 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment21105358 frank, As much as I hate to say this, I have to agree with you. He IS my president. I will respect him with that much, but that does not mean I will agree with his policies. I will not stand still while he stomps on the constitution, portrays america as weak to the rest of the world, or rises every morning trying to figure out what freedoms and liberties he is going to take away from me today. I do, however have to disagree with you tha he does not have a clue. I think he is very bright and he is working tirelessly at implementing an agenda that as we watch it unfold, we see that it was very well thought out. I also agree that all this petty bickering among ourselves is getting us nowhere, we really need to focus and unite, or we will be divided. I, for one, do not feel like living in france or venezuala. If I did, they still have the neon vacancy signs lit and airfair is still fairly cheap. I prefer to remain in the United States of America. We need to band together to make sure that place still exist for our children. Sat, 9 May 2009 02:00:04 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment21105358 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment21019759 Erika, I'm not sure what is going on here, it seemed like this was gaining a lot of support, then, just as it usaully does, the petty bickering among ourselves got started. We have to stay focused and get this thing off the ground. I'm not sure where it is going from here, will you be starting another blog somewhere? Another website? or will you continue right here? do we have any commited panel applicants? I dont get to this site nearly as often as I would like, and I am afraid I may lose contact with all of you that are behind this. If anything new transpires, shoot me an email at jknisley@netzero.net and keep me updated, Please. Fri, 8 May 2009 03:07:42 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment21019759 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment21018485 152, I also live in ohio. I have had the exact same problem trying to get information. Please keep me updated as to what you find out. I would certainly appreciate the help. shoot me an email at jknisley@netzero.net maybe we can join forces to help keep ohio residents informed about what is going on in our state. Fri, 8 May 2009 02:36:44 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment21018485 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment21017049 Erika, Thank you for your efforts. I* have been praying for some kind of leadership to come forth and you seem to be the chosen one. I love the idea and will suppor this movement in ANY way I can. I wish that I had th time to ask this site to elect me to this panel and could devote 24/7 to this cause. As it stands, I feel that with my limited time and resources, I would not be able to give to this cause all that is necessary in a panel position, but I pray that we have enough qualified individuals with the time necessary to devote to this. I will help in any way I can and will devote All of the time that I possibly can. Whatever is needed you can count on me. I only wish that CONGRESS would follow these ideas, as this is exactly the way they are supposed to conduct business on our behalf. Maybe the next 435 will learn something from us. Keep fighting, I know this movement is what so many of us have been looking for, and this could grow beyond our wildest dreams. May God be with us!! Fri, 8 May 2009 02:12:35 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment21017049 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment20929138 Col. Major, Maam, I would like to take a moment to thank not only you, but your entire family for your service to our country. I also, like my father and his father served in the Army, and so fully understand the sacrifices you have made. Unlike you though, I never saw any combat, I got out in 1987 as a SSG. I am proud of my time in the service, but humbly admit that my sacrifices pale in comparison to yours. You have my never ending respect. I too, proudly fly old glory on a pole in front of my home. I, however, am scared for the future of our country simply for the reason (well, certainly not the only reason) that I don't beleive that most americans understand or care about our "stars and stripes". I went to a baseball game last year, and during the "National Anthem", as I was standing at attention facing our flag, the two guys behind me were Aguing about HOT DOGS. I cannot look at her or hear the star spangled banner without feeling what Francis Scott Key Thu, 7 May 2009 02:55:08 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment20929138 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment20929032 must have felt as he stood there on the bow of the ship, at dawn, with the smoke clearing revealing a blood soaked ground and fallen companions, then to finally seen a very tattered and scorched flag still waving in the background. What feelings that single moment in time must have filled him with, A feeling I sincerely wish more americans still felt. Just keep that moment in mind as you make daily scrifices for our country, and fight this war both at home and abroad. It should not only remind us of WHY we are fighting this war, but should also serve as motivation when the fighting gets tough. Thank you for everything. Thu, 7 May 2009 02:54:56 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment20929032 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment20924387 America, Please WAKE UP!!! As I look upon all of these posts over the last couple of months, I realize that more and more people are starting to pay attention. But right now it really feels like we are a fart in the wind. With Benedict Arlen's defection to the other side, it now gives the senate a super majority, republicans voices mean little in the senate anymore. This gives the liberals the house, the senate AND the White House. Everyone I talk to seems to have the impression that there are moderate democrats in the senate that will help to keep this admnistration in check. But as we have seen many times, including the regulators for the chrysler bankruptcy, when Obama wants to play chicago thug politics, there is no one that he will not intimidate into getting his own way. It has only been 100 days, and look at the damage he has done. With control of the census going to Dead-fish emanuel, and the possibility of a constitutional congress floating around in the air, Hell even the supreme court seems to be doing his bidding, how can anyone stop Thu, 7 May 2009 02:13:23 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment20924387 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment20924366 this madness? I know this seems extreme, but who is to say that there will even be another election in our future? I would not put it past this extreme left administration to find a way around that too. Our constitution is crumbling right in front of us, and for the most part americans either dont care or dont even want to know about it, they just want to worship the "CHANGE" bumper stickers. A CHANGE TO WHAT? We need Very strong and Very loud and Very persistent leadership in congress to come forth, NOW. We need a leader like reagen to come Thu, 7 May 2009 02:12:52 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment20924366 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment20924349 to the forefront to clearly set apart our values from those on the left and to rally the conservatives in this country into a movement that only grows and grows between now and the next election. And "WE THE PEOPLE" have to get motivated like we have never before. We need to march and protest and flood the capitol hill switchboard like we were Democratic, Free Love Hippies from right out of the 60's. We must take a stand and take it NOW. Otherwise our children and grandchildren will never know the "United States of America" that we love and that has been so great to us. How do we set them on Grandpa's lap and explain that one to them? Thu, 7 May 2009 02:12:33 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment20924349