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sceptico

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5 hours ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Andrew Gimson's Common... · 0 replies · +1 points

"Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results." Is a quote attributed to the genius Einstein, but you don’t have to be Einstein to realise that May is in danger of losing everything. The world cannot wait and look on while Mrs May plays out an endless loop of promise/grovel to the EU/promise/grovel to the EU.

It is time for the cabinet to act. Mrs May must be cut from her endless loop. The cabinet then has two options, they must propose a way forward which delivers the party manifesto with regard to the referendum result, or, if they feel unable to do that, then they must appoint people who are willing and capable to deliver, while they resign. If they cannot do any of these things they must resign and allow a general election. If they do nothing, which is the most likely, then events will overtake them, probably within days.

6 hours ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Andrew Gimson's Common... · 0 replies · +1 points

May will probably survive the vote of no confidence but she does not deserve it. May is the problem, not the solution. A solution cannot be found with her in place.

The EU may make concessions. May may make huge concessions to Labour, but the gap is too wide.

The answer is for the Tories to de-risk a no deal with the EU leading eventually to an LTA like Canada. That is perfectly possible and achievable.

The Europhile Commons will not like it but it is difficult to see how they can reject it. Another possibility is to delay for a fixed period until Canada is ready.

The more likely outcome is that May refuses any sanity and is supported rather than challenged by her inadequate cabinet. That will be the most dangerous outcome of all as well as the most likely. This government makes national suicide look not just attractive but inevitable.

8 hours ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Andrew Gimson's Common... · 0 replies · +1 points

I didn't watch it but it sounds as though Cox is yet another Cabinet Minister with abysmal judgement. If you try to defend a scheme that may well destroy your nation then you deserve to destroy your own political future.

8 hours ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Andrew Gimson's Common... · 1 reply · +1 points

Don't forget to tell us why being governed by the EU is so attractive.

8 hours ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Andrew Gimson's Common... · 1 reply · +1 points

That is a bit like saying that the Leave majority would have been 9 million if Project Fear had not been so effective.

8 hours ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Almost good enough isn... · 0 replies · +1 points

You play this tired record over and over, but you never explain why it is better to be governed by the EU.

8 hours ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Almost good enough isn... · 0 replies · +1 points

Are we not past worrying about votes? She has lost the Leave voters unless we leave by WTO or some other FTA.

8 hours ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Almost good enough isn... · 0 replies · +1 points

There are two partly contradictory aspects. On the one hand, the EU has mentioned costs that need to be settled. These are things like pensions and also programmes to which we committed funding and so on. There was much talk back then about the treasury totting up what we owe. There is also acceptance that we would be silly to be seen by the international community to "leave the bar without paying for our beer."

The second aspect is that the EU want our money, as usual, and Theresa May seemed willing to give them great piles of it as a goodwill gesture, bribe, ransom or whatever to help lubricate her deal. This divorce settlement has been described as political and negotiable.

The latter should disappear with May's deal. The EU can bill us for what we owe. That seems fair.

10 hours ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Almost good enough isn... · 1 reply · +1 points

I agree. I listened to Gove this morning. He is a man that I once respected. I thought he was intelligent. Every time I hear him these days he loses credibility. This morning, he seemed to decline in my respect for him with every sentence. What are his Spads doing? They must realise that endlessly promoting a dead duck is not a career enhancing ploy and that when this is over, so is he, if there is any justice in the world.

10 hours ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Almost good enough isn... · 0 replies · +1 points

Brown_Owl, if you are suggesting that the new party would go away and the old ones resume from where they left off, I don't think that could ever happen. Consider the polarised mess we are in. It would be a good thing if our centralist party took the country forward on a consensus direction. There would be lots of positive things to do and it would be a fresh start in all sorts of ways. Why would we want the Remainers and Corbyn supporters trying to undue everything, obsessed with returning to the EU?