en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/627420 Comments by rudy101 http://www.canoncitydailyrecord.com/news/canoncity-local-news/ci_24534276/becky-jones-overexposure-sex-offenders#IDComment751209537 There is no way to limit the exposure of a registry that is allowed by law to be used in unlimited ways to discriminate and harass. The State has packaged up this list and given it out to the public. Everyone has access, including those that are violent, vindictive, or has no purpose to have that information. I left the sex offender registry. NOBODY can get me back on it! WHY? Because, as that list was created and evolved it clearly has become a list that is dangerous to be on. Ex-post facto, completely controlled by a legislature, no forums to ever challenge any assertion or placement on the list, and all it does is makes the community more dangerous. You all have lost your minds thinking your laws are credible. Sat, 16 Nov 2013 13:32:35 +0000 http://www.canoncitydailyrecord.com/news/canoncity-local-news/ci_24534276/becky-jones-overexposure-sex-offenders#IDComment751209537 http://q13fox.com/2013/10/16/avoiding-sex-offenders-on-halloween/#IDComment736159547 There is a reason many don't register. Registering only makes the community less safe. There is no relationship between re-offense and compliance with a registry. BUT you do make a great case for NOT registering (newspapers, mailings, public meeting, and renal companies using the registry to deny housing). It is ILLEGAL to use the registry to systematically isolate a person from the community that has no ability to challenge or appeal this policy or even a registry. BlackBelt? Your registry has no credibility. Even having a level 3 has no meaning as to dangerousness. Do you know why? Because it is not done by a COURT OF LAW under established standards. It is a FICTION of a dangerousness because all it allows the State to do is to tell you a person is dangerous. They are getting away with the fiction because you are satisfied you hate them the most. You know why you'll never do that (take them to a court)? Because it will take all the fun out of the humiliation that is the only outcome of your registry. THANK GOD I have left your illegal registry. Thu, 17 Oct 2013 12:17:15 +0000 http://q13fox.com/2013/10/16/avoiding-sex-offenders-on-halloween/#IDComment736159547 http://www.pomeradonews.com/2013/03/14/county-starts-sex-offender-alert-system/#IDComment595473442 Believe me, Sparky, the registry IS illegal and unconstitutional. Why? Because it is a PUNISHMENT outside of a sentence passed by a court of law. I know when the State finds it convenient it calls the laws civil and when it is convenient it calls the laws a punishment depending upon who the State is trying to justify the laws to. But in order for a CIVIL law (as the legislature passed it as) to actually be civil, there must be a civil outcome, defined as some protection of the community. The ONLY outcome is the loss of safety and/or security. Let me put it this way: Nobody can force me to choose between following a law and losing my safety and/or security or going to jail. That is well established in law. Not only does the registry not protect, but it inherently makes the community more dangerous by making isolated and alienated individuals who have no hope for the future. Gardner had no hope. What do you think he lost when he murdered those two kids? Not much at all. He lost his freedom? He had none to begin with and no hope to get any. Oh, yes, the registry IS illegal on so many levels. It needs some DUE PROCESS. Rational restrictions based upon individual circumstances and mostly the legislature needs the power to name whomever they want to this list ripped out of their hands and placed in a court of law where it has belonged all along. I am not worried about IP addresses. I don't hide. I laugh and ignore the registry and live a free life that does have hope. I can do that BECAUSE the registry IS illegal and has no due process, recourses and has ONLY threats, isolation, banishment and fear as outcomes. You think anyone is going to challenge me? They won't dare! Thu, 14 Mar 2013 20:01:18 +0000 http://www.pomeradonews.com/2013/03/14/county-starts-sex-offender-alert-system/#IDComment595473442 http://www.pomeradonews.com/2013/03/14/county-starts-sex-offender-alert-system/#IDComment595259407 The sex offender registry is an illegal, ex-post facto law that is used to isolate, banish, threaten and put fear into offenders. The State has allowed no way to challenge a placement on the site, legislatures use the registry to pass ever restrictive laws, a person on the site is presumed to be dangerous and the outcome is a person isolated from the community, aliented from society and unable to bring stability to his life. THIS is called, "protection of the community." It is irrational at it core. The registry assumes because the neighborhood is aware that person will have no opportunity to re-offend. A short bus ride takes care of the idea that everyone will know what that person did. The registry has been around in California for over 50 years. What changed? What ex-post facto law changed the registry that gave imputes to communities to start banishing people that have lived for decades crime free? It was the passing of laws that allowed for unlimited public dissemination of registry information. The registry is irrational because it doesn't require dangerous people to be listed and for the community to be warned about their existence. The registry strips basic and fundamental civil rights to live in peace and has no relationship between public notificaiton and reoffense levels. These things are not in dispute. However, they just don't matter. Freedom and justice are ideals that are held to the LOWEST of standards. NOW, with that being said, the registry, as a matter of law, becomes ILLEGAL and does not have to be followed and can be fled from in any way possible. Society is not allowed to make up a list with no judicial oversight and then use that list to systematically banish from every single social avenue of the community. I left the sex offender registry. I will NEVER go back on it. NOBODY can make me. THAT puts an end to any sex offender email notification. Thu, 14 Mar 2013 13:52:24 +0000 http://www.pomeradonews.com/2013/03/14/county-starts-sex-offender-alert-system/#IDComment595259407 http://www.wpri.com/dpp/news/local_news/state-rep-pushes-new-sex-offender-bill#IDComment579305141 Ex-post facto laws are prohibited by the U.S. Constitution. Laws whose only outcome is the loss of safety and/or security of the individual are illegal. There is NO PUBLIC SAFETY value to the sex offender registry AND it has been shown that there is an INVERSE public safety effect (the more public notification the HIGHER reoffense levels). There is also no relationship between a person not registering and reoffense rates.. All of those things are PROVEN. But the State will pass these laws anyway. It is a RIGHT to flee any laws that ONLY bring harm to the person who is forced to follow them. I WILL NOT FOLLOW ANY REGISTRY LAW that results in MY HARM. You all think you can legislate the world flat (legislate that public notification protects the public), when it is well known that a person marginalized, alienated and hopeless, without friends, stable housing and stable employment (all results of unlimited public notification) protects the community. The State uses the sex offender registry for political purposes. There is NO DUE PROCESS, no ability to challenge and the State can increase time on a registry and/or restricitons at their whim. The State is the sole body who defines who a sex offender is, and can name any person in any crime a sex offender. Do what you like, but don't expect ME to follow ANY illegal laws. Does everyone understand that? Mon, 25 Feb 2013 22:36:51 +0000 http://www.wpri.com/dpp/news/local_news/state-rep-pushes-new-sex-offender-bill#IDComment579305141 http://fox5sandiego.com/2013/02/15/deputies-warn-community-about-sex-offender/#IDComment576278368 I can and do live my life. I do have my rights. NO LAW takes away or can take away my rights. That is why I left the registry to PROTECT MY RIGHTS! Thu, 21 Feb 2013 11:31:06 +0000 http://fox5sandiego.com/2013/02/15/deputies-warn-community-about-sex-offender/#IDComment576278368 http://fox5sandiego.com/2013/02/15/deputies-warn-community-about-sex-offender/#IDComment573325113 It isn't about protection of children. You are making a connection between not sleeping in a bed and the protection of children. Human rights is not about protection of the rights of the popular, but inherently the protection of the rights of the UNPOPULAR. What does this man sleeping in a bed, verses sleeping on the streets have to do with protection of the community? Well, there is LOTS. A person with a bed is LESS likely to be dangerous than one without one. I don't know this man. I don't care about who he is. What I do care about is, that IF I register, there is a reasonable chance I will become homeless. If I become homeless I will be looking for a bed to sleep in. I will not let a LAW tell me I can't sleep in a bed that if I tell the police I am sleeping in it, I won't be able to sleep in it. This is about MY safety, of which that registry doesn't seem to care about. That being the case, AND because that registry is illegally applied, I won't register. I won't register to PROTECT my rights to sleep in a bed. Undesrtand? Sun, 17 Feb 2013 14:00:50 +0000 http://fox5sandiego.com/2013/02/15/deputies-warn-community-about-sex-offender/#IDComment573325113 http://fox5sandiego.com/2013/02/15/deputies-warn-community-about-sex-offender/#IDComment572809897 That is a veiled threat. They give you information and you believe you can give veiled threats of death. You know what is toast? It is your stupid laws that are putting the community in obvious danger. Sat, 16 Feb 2013 18:47:17 +0000 http://fox5sandiego.com/2013/02/15/deputies-warn-community-about-sex-offender/#IDComment572809897 http://fox5sandiego.com/2013/02/15/deputies-warn-community-about-sex-offender/#IDComment572548170 You know what? Throwing a person into jail for having a bed, of which he will not have IF he tells the police where he is at IS illegal and a violation of human rights. I know none of you care as you strip safety and/or security, calling it a punishment or protection of the community; whatever is convenient for you, but is ONE of the main reasons you will never get me onto a registry. Sorry, but you people have no sense. Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:27:52 +0000 http://fox5sandiego.com/2013/02/15/deputies-warn-community-about-sex-offender/#IDComment572548170 http://www.hawaiireporter.com/9-year-old-jessica-lunsford-murdered-by-a-repeat-sex-offender-inspires-lawmakers-in-3-more-states-to-pass-tough-legislation/123#IDComment570210281 It is easy to pass a law and impossible to implement a law like this. Why won't the vast majority of those brought in on charges that require 25 years minimum in prison not get that? Cases have to be proved, "beyond a reasonable doubt". It is a high burden, and every time a prosecutor takes one to trial there is always a chance there will be an aquittal. It doesn't take many loses to ruin a career. Many times, (even in the most egregious of cases) the victim cannot testify due to trauma. A victim who cannot testify will not get a conviction. Many times a victim will REFUSE to testify when the outcome will be imprisonment for 25 years minimum. This is because most sexual abuse happens in families. It is just not reasonable for all families to want that sentence, and will refuse to cooperate under those conditions. In the interests of justice. Many people believe that the average person on a sex offender registry is of the John Cuoey type. That is just not true. Many people are rehabilitatable. Many are remorseful. Many will not re-offend. I understand nobody here has any sympathy ONLY because they know nothing of specific cases except John Cuoey's. Prosecutor's deal with these cases a lot. They judge them and offer plea deals on what he believes to be in the intersest of justice. There is not enough money, time or room in the court system to take everyone (or even most) to trial. Even now, with sex offender registries, more people are going to trial. The registry, as a consideration of punishment is leading many to conclude that all or nothing is the only palatable outcome to a conviction. So, add a zillion years to the punishment. It still won't be the punishment. And remember, no matter where you are, that between 50 and 75% of all accusations never result in an arrest. All laws like this do is puts the highest of stakes on the outcome of the criminal justice system that ultimately is shoving sexual abuse right back in the closet. Yes, the law will get a few; will have some ridiculous outcomes and ensure that people can't even talk about sexual abuse except in the context of forever in prison... Wed, 13 Feb 2013 12:00:50 +0000 http://www.hawaiireporter.com/9-year-old-jessica-lunsford-murdered-by-a-repeat-sex-offender-inspires-lawmakers-in-3-more-states-to-pass-tough-legislation/123#IDComment570210281 http://www.hawaiireporter.com/hawaii-lawmakers-aim-to-strengthen-laws-against-sex-offenders-targeting-children/123#IDComment557972395 You can put a zillion years for this type of crime and you will still rarely get it as a sentence. Most charges lead to a plea deal. You think the prosecutor is going to take every case to trial so as to get the 25 years? Do you think he will take a majority of them to trial to get the 25 years? Do you think he will, as now, take a small majority of them to trial? See, you are not going to change a sentence by that much when IF a person can get 2 years now, tomorrow they will get 25? Do you think that is how it will be? All you will get in the majority of cases is they plead guilty to something else that carries the sentence the D.A. and defense attorney has come to agreement on. And the D.A. negoitates based upon strength of case, and the interest of justice. Wed, 30 Jan 2013 13:31:52 +0000 http://www.hawaiireporter.com/hawaii-lawmakers-aim-to-strengthen-laws-against-sex-offenders-targeting-children/123#IDComment557972395 http://fox59.com/2013/01/09/new-law-enforcement-tool-finds-sex-offenders-at-local-malls#IDComment540884024 Well, you could read the study. Well, that would require an open mind. Sorry. BUT, I did. "The IDOC defines recidivism as an offender’s return to incarceration within 3 years of their release date from a state correctional institution.]" "overall recidivism rate has declined for the third consecutive year to 37.4%." "The recidivism rate for sex offenders returning on a new sex offense was 1.05%, one of the lowest in the nation. " So, let's see, there is about a 35x higher rate for those returning to prison after 3 years for non-sex offenders. But don't worry, it is a perfect justification to creating more registries and stripping more people of their freedom. All you need is outrage and a vote and society has just gotten started in destroying thier Constitutional freedoms. Thu, 10 Jan 2013 22:03:15 +0000 http://fox59.com/2013/01/09/new-law-enforcement-tool-finds-sex-offenders-at-local-malls#IDComment540884024 http://fox59.com/2013/01/09/new-law-enforcement-tool-finds-sex-offenders-at-local-malls#IDComment540587640 Then I would suggest you go and call the police and tell them to ask the court for some DUE PROCESS, because I am laughing at your laws and the registry. That is the problem with your registry. You all really believe you can put together this hit and harassment list, specifically require non-dangerous people to be on it, then have total chaos in a person's life and you think it has to be followed. Are you ridiculous? What kind of society do you think you have? A democracy? You don't. It is a Constitutional Republic where certain rights are guarenteed. ONE of those RIGHTS is the right to live in peace. If you can't find THAT in the Constitution, then don't think you are a free country and THAT only makes my case stronger. Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:18:42 +0000 http://fox59.com/2013/01/09/new-law-enforcement-tool-finds-sex-offenders-at-local-malls#IDComment540587640 http://fox59.com/2013/01/09/new-law-enforcement-tool-finds-sex-offenders-at-local-malls#IDComment540583700 Nope, they can't and your own words show that. Harassment cannot be an outcome of laws that are not supposed to be punitive. In fact, threats, harassment, isolation and fear are the only outcomes of the sex offender registry. NOW, you understand why it won't be followed? I'll add on ex-post facto and no due process too. Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:11:45 +0000 http://fox59.com/2013/01/09/new-law-enforcement-tool-finds-sex-offenders-at-local-malls#IDComment540583700 http://fox59.com/2013/01/09/new-law-enforcement-tool-finds-sex-offenders-at-local-malls#IDComment540577613 I left the offender list some years ago. I had to. The only thing it was doing was creating chaos in my life. That is now over, and I became a productive member of society. I will never go on the list again and nobody can make me. Thu, 10 Jan 2013 14:00:37 +0000 http://fox59.com/2013/01/09/new-law-enforcement-tool-finds-sex-offenders-at-local-malls#IDComment540577613 http://fox59.com/2013/01/09/new-law-enforcement-tool-finds-sex-offenders-at-local-malls#IDComment540554146 Oh, everyone just remember. They have this new technology and they are telling you about how they use it for those evil sex offenders, while at the same time they are scanning all the license plates. It is not only sex offenders they can "monitor", but EVERYONE (which is exactly what they are doing). All you need to do is scan all plates every day and cross-reference it and they can have a profile on what EVERYONE is doing. It is not so hard to do, is it? As they so well explained in the article. Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:17:21 +0000 http://fox59.com/2013/01/09/new-law-enforcement-tool-finds-sex-offenders-at-local-malls#IDComment540554146 http://fox59.com/2013/01/09/new-law-enforcement-tool-finds-sex-offenders-at-local-malls#IDComment540545530 What is being done is a foundation is being built to further isolate people on the list so that later on, new laws can be enacted. Thu, 10 Jan 2013 13:01:40 +0000 http://fox59.com/2013/01/09/new-law-enforcement-tool-finds-sex-offenders-at-local-malls#IDComment540545530 http://fox59.com/2013/01/09/new-law-enforcement-tool-finds-sex-offenders-at-local-malls#IDComment540543307 No, Valigator, you can't change the tide of public opinion when it comes to these types of laws against a legislatively created list of the so-called, evil ones. That is why it is so important to ensure that there are proper procedures in place so that the wrong type of people are not on a registry. It is all about LIMITED government OR Checks and Balances. I make comments on the stories where a person re-offended all the time. I ask important questions on HOW can these things be avoided. You even admit the registry doesn't lessen re-offense levels. In Florida a study was just done that shows the laws in place have an inverse effect on re-offense levels. See, you want THEM on a short leash, but only have a vague understanding of who THEM are (and don't much care). The problem becomes when a person doesn't fit your stereotype of offender. The world has changed, Valigator. It does matter WHO goes on that list AND it does matter that there be processes to challenge or appeal restrictions that were put on without hearing and without consideration to individual circumstances. But you already know all that. YOU, yourself have played judge with the list, as you cut breaks to those you believe don't deserve the community's wrath and go after those you believe do. It is that kind of arbitrary decision making by the community that renders the registry useless and illegal. These things belong in a court of law where rational restrictions can be placed on people according to circumstances. And without those things, YOU getting the list and making decisions or determinations based upon it render that list, as a matter of law, illegal. Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:57:37 +0000 http://fox59.com/2013/01/09/new-law-enforcement-tool-finds-sex-offenders-at-local-malls#IDComment540543307 http://fox59.com/2013/01/09/new-law-enforcement-tool-finds-sex-offenders-at-local-malls#IDComment540160695 “I’d say absolutely it’s worth it because the arrest speaks for itself,” said Captain Hubbs. “Who knows what that person could have been up to?” What does that mean? You arrested someone for a NON-crime? Is this what the sex offender registry is for? To arrest people for having the status of sex offender? The sex offender registry is DANGEROUS to be on. It allows the State to arbitrarily arrest for "crimes" that have no criminal intent. Do you think walking in a park is a crime? Going to your own child's school is a crime? Taking a picture at a birthday party is a crime? Living in the community is a crime? Inherently they are not UNLESS a court says it is and why. Free societies are not allowed to make normal conduct criminal without DUE PROCESS. All of those laws are ex-post facto laws applied without hearing, long after sentences are over and applied to even the most innocuous of crimes. Who would register under these conditions? I will tell you now, I do not register and especially will not register under these conditions. I have a RIGHT to go to a Mall, without fear of harassment. I have a right to walk in a park, or to take photos of the community UNLESS a court specifically tells me I cannot and articulates why I cannot. Police States set up by legislative fiat are illegal, and always have been. Sorry for your registry, but it is being laughed at! Thu, 10 Jan 2013 01:09:37 +0000 http://fox59.com/2013/01/09/new-law-enforcement-tool-finds-sex-offenders-at-local-malls#IDComment540160695 http://www.wane.com/dpp/news/local/site-where-aliahna-died-still-haven-for-sex-offenders#IDComment529176670 You are an interesting person; a person whose existence is owed to a sexual crime. Absolutely you have to tolerate scum. That is how the liberal document titled, "U.S. Constitution" was written. Inmates sit on death row for 15 years BECAUSE in a Constitutional Republic, with RIGHTS spelled out AND the sanctity of the citizen's liberty is held to the HIGHEST ideal, death is ALWAYS a big deal. It is not cheap living in a "free" society, is it? Well, we all know how MOST governments have dealt with those they didn't like, and it was always on the cheap. Problem is, those governments have no credibilty in their processes in applying their death sentence, and then looking back on all of your history the same is true of all quick executions. Well, I understand. How could you have a real understanding of the evolution of law and why and how that evolution takes place? BUT that is why your registry is failing; why I don't follow a registry AND why inmates will continue to sit on death row for 15 years. The alternative? Has always been proven as unpalatable, So you have already lost the whole of your argument. But don't worry, you can still rant and rave! (just nobody can give you registry information). Thu, 27 Dec 2012 03:49:07 +0000 http://www.wane.com/dpp/news/local/site-where-aliahna-died-still-haven-for-sex-offenders#IDComment529176670