en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/1153764 Comments by psurevelry https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-8-lesson-14-affirmative-action__trashed/#IDComment85444181 I am totally with you about the trading schools segment. It was so disheartening to watch and see all the inequality going on just miles from one another. No one does ever talk about how to bring about social equality it is a little taboo in our society today because I think no one wants to talk about what caused it and what perpetuates the inequality in our society. The percentages were even more depressing to think that at one school almost all of them are going to graduate where at the other less than half will. I think it also makes you think about what if half of my graduating class did not graduate and how growing up around that would have affected me. Thu, 8 Jul 2010 04:14:20 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-8-lesson-14-affirmative-action__trashed/#IDComment85444181 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-8-lesson-14-affirmative-action__trashed/#IDComment85442952 I would think that it is so unfair but life is not fair. AA was made to combat institutional discrimination and probably inequality. I think it is hard to watch the video because some people want to have the opportunities and try to succeed in life and you see that them doing there best but is not enough because they are not given the same resources. I think in an ideal world everyone would have the same opportunities and resources available in order to succeed in life and then it would be an even playing field. I guess it is just so disheartened when you realize how the world really works and how things can just never be equal. Thu, 8 Jul 2010 04:09:10 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-8-lesson-14-affirmative-action__trashed/#IDComment85442952 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-8-lesson-14-affirmative-action__trashed/#IDComment85442897 The idea was that society needed to help get rid of the man made obstacles that others have placed in front of some people to stop them on their journey to get ahead. It also is hard to hear that affirmative action does not really help to way it was intended to help. The end goal of what affirmative action really helps is the white males but those are not the people that need to help. The Harper high school video was hard to watch cause it shows a lot of inequality in the same city. It is hard to think that people in a school have a little chance to graduate because a lot of there circumstances. I think it makes people just see how the world really is and what is going on out there. Thu, 8 Jul 2010 04:09:01 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-8-lesson-14-affirmative-action__trashed/#IDComment85442897 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-8-lesson-14-affirmative-action__trashed/#IDComment85442607 Affirmative Action. Words pretty much every college student has heard once but probably more in their academic careers. Words we will probably hear again in academia and the work force. I think it is a strange thing to talk about this subject because when it was created it was a while back and for some necessary reasons. I think it is hard to think about how people will never be equal. I think of course in some eyes there is a reason for this because some people are seeing things from a racist perspective but if thinking about it from some people do not want to aspire to be everything they can. I think it this then that they cannot be equal to others because they do not want to try to be equal to others. I definitely understand the professors view of being a libertarian in believing that people should be able to do want they want I think as long as it does not do harm to others. I never knew that affirmative action benefited women mostly especially not white women. I think when affirmative action was created it had the write idea because inequality was so prevalent in our society. Thu, 8 Jul 2010 04:08:18 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-8-lesson-14-affirmative-action__trashed/#IDComment85442607 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-7-lesson-12-multiculturalism-lgbt__trashed/#IDComment83648745 I defiantly agree with you about this being the most interesting lecture so far. I too am very interested in multiculturalism issues because I think they are so interesting. I think it is something that affects as everyday being involved with so many other cultures. I have never thought about LGBT issues as the Civil Rights movement but I definitely see how it relates to it. How it is inequality in the general sense and how it involves overcoming inequality. I think it is a hard issue more than others because it starts to come to peoples beliefs and they start to feel more about this issue. Thu, 1 Jul 2010 03:52:37 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-7-lesson-12-multiculturalism-lgbt__trashed/#IDComment83648745 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-7-lesson-12-multiculturalism-lgbt__trashed/#IDComment83646743 I think children just need to be loved and unless everyone else in the world is willing to take all the children in the U.S. that need adopted in than they should not be aloud to say anything about if people should be aloud to adopt. I think that children are worse off staying in the system for the rest of there lives where they aren’t receiving as much attention as they should or the love they need. There is a lot of inequality in the world still but this one upsets me because I think that it is great when people want to adopt children that otherwise would not have any kind of family. Thu, 1 Jul 2010 03:44:57 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-7-lesson-12-multiculturalism-lgbt__trashed/#IDComment83646743 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-7-lesson-12-multiculturalism-lgbt__trashed/#IDComment83646707 In the general sense even if I do or do not believe in homosexuality I still think people are people and I do not think others should ever have the right to judge them. They are still people and even if you do not believe in it because moral reasons that is no right to hate people. I think anyone who can past proper background checks should have the right to adopt. I think that children are better off in a loving home with two of the same sex parents or just one who happens to be gay than no parents and growing up in the system. I do not believe this is okay because that is the government judging people lifestyles and not the character of the person they are inside. Thu, 1 Jul 2010 03:44:33 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-7-lesson-12-multiculturalism-lgbt__trashed/#IDComment83646707 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-7-lesson-12-multiculturalism-lgbt__trashed/#IDComment83646512 I think this is a hard topic to discuss. I think it is hard to talk about this topic with an unbiased view. People including myself start to bring emotions, beliefs, and what they where raised with when even thinking about this topic especially in today’s world. I guess it is hard to look at anything without bias and just see it for what it is. I never just think of homosexuality as people just loving whom they want to love. I am not saying what my personal beliefs are because I think I am trying to see this subject as unbiased as possible. But I do not like the term gay lifestyle because that is like saying there is a straight lifestyle. That is like saying all straight people are the same, which they are not and they obviously do not all lead the same lifestyles. We obviously have seen the different lifestyles people in general lead so why would there be a gay lifestyle. What would it even entail if there were a gay lifestyle. People in general lead such varieties of lives why would people think just because others are gay there lifestyle would the same. I think that is just an even smaller minded view of things because people generalize people. Thu, 1 Jul 2010 03:43:53 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-7-lesson-12-multiculturalism-lgbt__trashed/#IDComment83646512 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-6-lesson-9-stages-of-racial-identity-people-of-color-stages-1-4__trashed/#IDComment81849227 I do not think I even really thought about what Dr. Richards said that Black people should feel guilty. I do not understand why they even would feel guilty because a majority of black people were not even here during the genocide of Native Americans. I totally agree that parents teach their children racism.. Some probably more subconscious than others though small actions and comments. I think parents really need to address how they act around their children and what they are really teaching them by either talking to much about racism or not talking enough. Obviously this problem goes along with what all older people are teaching the younger generation. Thu, 24 Jun 2010 04:03:40 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-6-lesson-9-stages-of-racial-identity-people-of-color-stages-1-4__trashed/#IDComment81849227 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-6-lesson-9-stages-of-racial-identity-people-of-color-stages-1-4__trashed/#IDComment81848830 I think it is so ludicrous that people inside my own race the colored race would be even more racist at times than white people. The colored children said that white was good and black was bad. The truth is those children were colored and obviously someone had to teach them that since they are so young. I think this shows how race relations need to be worked out within the colored community so there is no racism in one’s own race. Thu, 24 Jun 2010 03:59:30 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-6-lesson-9-stages-of-racial-identity-people-of-color-stages-1-4__trashed/#IDComment81848830 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-6-lesson-9-stages-of-racial-identity-people-of-color-stages-1-4__trashed/#IDComment81848802 I think people in the preawakening stage especially for colored people defiantly leave this stage before white people. I think because they are surrounded by more of different colored people. Even within the colored race all the different skin types people start to notice. In the colored culture people notice how darker skins people versus lighter skinned colored people. How they are treated within ones own race is also shocking to me. People always talk about race relations in the U.S. usually meaning black versus white but what about the race relations of colored people between each other. After watching the video about the dolls it was really shocking. For children especially young children are being taught things that are racist against ones own culture. Thu, 24 Jun 2010 03:59:17 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-6-lesson-9-stages-of-racial-identity-people-of-color-stages-1-4__trashed/#IDComment81848802 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-6-lesson-9-stages-of-racial-identity-people-of-color-stages-1-4__trashed/#IDComment81848783 Race relations in the United States I believe is in a weird limbo. Of course there will always be racist people because hatred is taught not born and when hatred of another race is so deeply rooted into a family it is hard to shake that out of them. I think race relations in the U.S. is also strained because of the guilt some white people feel for the pain and suffering their ancestors caused. I do not think people should feel guilty for the past especially a past that they really had nothing to with them directly. However in the same respect people need to be aware of the past so steps can be taken so it is not repeated. But I feel like guilt will not do anything to direct and help with race relations today. I think people should embrace whatever culture they have inside them. Obviously culture is more relevant to some than others by embracing ones culture I think it can help people understand themselves better. Thu, 24 Jun 2010 03:59:04 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-6-lesson-9-stages-of-racial-identity-people-of-color-stages-1-4__trashed/#IDComment81848783 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-6-lesson-9-stages-of-racial-identity-people-of-color-stages-1-4__trashed/#IDComment81848763 I hate the phrase acting white. What is acting white? That is saying that all white people are and act the same. This is not true no one race of people all act the same cause they are not the same. Therefore what is acting like another race? I think people are affected by there surroundings yes but only in part there are also key factors in a person that will make them behave in whatever way they behave. Thu, 24 Jun 2010 03:58:54 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-6-lesson-9-stages-of-racial-identity-people-of-color-stages-1-4__trashed/#IDComment81848763 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-5-lesson-7-race-and-ethnic-inequality__trashed/#IDComment80524826 I am also very sorry to hear about your mother. I have had similiar situation in the fact that when I am with some of my middle eastern friends people tend to look at them with suspicious eyes. I think that skin color definatly has the advantages and disadvantages that comes along with being white or being a person of color. I definately have seen the advantages white people have had becacse of the color of there skin and I have seen the many looks others have gotten because of their skin. Sometimes I feel really bad when I am with my friends and people do not know them and can treat them so cruelly. Thu, 17 Jun 2010 04:00:03 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-5-lesson-7-race-and-ethnic-inequality__trashed/#IDComment80524826 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-5-lesson-7-race-and-ethnic-inequality__trashed/#IDComment80524456 The notion of political correctness has never sit well with me. When people say something is political correct or not I think what really makes it politically correct. Who made up these definitions of what the norm should be for political correctness. I also think this really limits people from ever expressing their true thoughts. Though some people have cruel thoughts others are just curious or want to say something not to be cruel and the words that this is not politically correct is always thrown out there. People tend to also use this as an excuse to not interact with different cultures because they are scared they will say the wrong things. I also think this is a cop out and people use this to toss the blame around for why things are the way they are. Thu, 17 Jun 2010 03:55:04 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-5-lesson-7-race-and-ethnic-inequality__trashed/#IDComment80524456 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-5-lesson-7-race-and-ethnic-inequality__trashed/#IDComment80524428 The idea of the stereotype of white person is a weird concept. I have never thought about what I think a stereotypical white person is or looks like. I people thinking that there is such a thing of a generic white person is ludicrous. I think people cannot be generic and that none of us are exactly alike to be able to say this. I don’t think there are any stereotypical people only thoughts of stereotypical people. People have come up with the notions of stereotypes and have played into them for however long. If no one had said something was a stereotype then it would probably never have been a stereotype. I am not fond of stereotypes and placing people in boxes of one thing or another. That limits people and I do not think people should be limited or most are not just one thing. Thu, 17 Jun 2010 03:54:41 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-5-lesson-7-race-and-ethnic-inequality__trashed/#IDComment80524428 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-5-lesson-7-race-and-ethnic-inequality__trashed/#IDComment80524396 Never have I thought to imagine what it is to be white or to even begin to know what that entails and means. I only have ever imagined what it means to be me and what thoughts define me. I am not a white person so to step into another person’s shoes of a different race is not something I would think about. I guess as a child you always think oh I want to be that person or just like them but I never thought what is was it would me to be a white person. I do not think anyone including white people should feel bad in any way for the color of their skin in this case white skin. Everyone is dealt a hand of cards that they cannot change skin color is one of them. I think when people become aware of their whiteness or notice how they are white and other people are not they can feel bad. However feeling bad does not do anything for anyone or change whatever he or she feels bad about. Thu, 17 Jun 2010 03:54:20 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-5-lesson-7-race-and-ethnic-inequality__trashed/#IDComment80524396 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-4-lesson-6-race-and-ethnic-inequality__trashed/#IDComment79406802 I totally agree with what you are saying about the prison system. The prison system is supposedly supposed to rehabilitate inmates but that usually does not happen. The truth is most people who go to prison and get out end up going back in. I am no saying they all so but the statistics show that a lot of them do. It is terrible that there are some inmates with the proper help could be a contributing member of society and will never be given the chance to do so. In the same respect the government shows that what they consider lesser crimes a lot of them leave prison and reoffend and sometimes it is a much worse crime. Obviously it will be a long time before all the problems with the prison system can be fixed but I think it needs to be more of a focus for the government. Thu, 10 Jun 2010 03:56:12 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-4-lesson-6-race-and-ethnic-inequality__trashed/#IDComment79406802 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-4-lesson-6-race-and-ethnic-inequality__trashed/#IDComment79405432 The truth is if you look at the different groups and how inequality started with slavery it is hard to see how inequality will ever end. When slavery ended it was not like everything suddenly became equal. Equality has had to be worked for and is still being worked for. Society and people have been living their lives here having their children follow in their footsteps. When slavery ended where did all the former slaves fit. The truth is they were supposedly “free” but with nothing to do. Therefore for years they had to work for everything to be even close to equal. This adds to people starting at different places at a “starting line”. The starting line started way before for some people so how is it possible for all the other people to catch up Thu, 10 Jun 2010 03:46:13 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-4-lesson-6-race-and-ethnic-inequality__trashed/#IDComment79405432 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-4-lesson-6-race-and-ethnic-inequality__trashed/#IDComment79405409 I guess this lecture makes me think about my entire life. Why I came to school at Penn State, why I did this why I did that. I made some of the decisions I made because I saw people succeed and admired those qualities and tried to exemplify those to get what I wanted. I also made the decisions I made because I saw the things people did that I did not want and choose to stay away from things that would led me down those paths. Determinism versus freedom. I think it is a little ignorant to say that one is worth more than the other. Systematic inequality. In the lecture he asked why are Native Americans so far down on the totem poll. I think the reason they are on the bottom is because the United States as a whole has placed them there so they do not have to really deal about the reality of the situation of what their ancestors did to them. If most of the country does not have to see Native Americans then what happened to them can really not exist in their minds. Thu, 10 Jun 2010 03:45:58 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/06/week-4-lesson-6-race-and-ethnic-inequality__trashed/#IDComment79405409