My band played with them last year (before I moved here and joined them). I haven't heard their music yet but will definitely check it out. All of the people in my band are quite laid back; no drugs or any of that other "rocker" BS but when we are on stage we go nuts. Are music is extremely heavy and is an awesome release.
Who is more spineless, the one who sacrifices himself for his family or the one who sacrfifices his family for himself? Who is more of a brother, he who kicks you when you are down or he who offers a helping hand? If cmiklich, mr. trickle, cephus and t_z (as opposed to meta4 and 737man) are representative of how the union members support each other then my sacrifice will have been in vain. Veiled threats, insults, arrogance...this is the face of the union that you are presenting.
Thrash metal? That's my forte! What's the name of the band? My band is releasing our first CD in the beginning of November. Metal is an excellent release from all of the stress.
Thank you for your comment. I will continue to hold out as long as possible but I refuse to let my family go under. I believe it takes more of "a man" to do what is necessary to support his family even if he risks being ostacized by the arrogant, self-righteous "brothers" who show their "support" by bashing those whom they claim to support.
Careful with the "sheep" and the "work elsewhere" comments, those are the exact statements being used by people who think the union is wrong. You act like you are somehow better then others yet you resort to the same type of ineffectual arguments. Impressive.
Another pearl of wisdom from one of my fine union “brothers”. So much for supporting each other. So much for solidarity. It’s arrogance like yours that makes me wonder why I continue to hold out. As far as being a man goes, I was under the impression that one of the primary measures of a man is how well he provides for his family. The line I have been walking is quickly becoming a tight rope yet instead of offering words of encouragement you toss out errant, ill-informed insults and, in the same breath, ask that I continue supporting your cause.
That's a wonderfully assumptive statement to make to a new hire who voted for the contract yet still honors your strike vote while facing financial ruin. So does your line of thinking represent the union that you expect me to continue supporting? If this strike continues, my future won't be worth selling out. Which is more important: a union who's members express their "support" by making ignorant generalizations or my family?
21 years in aviation for this? Maybe during the hiring process they should advise that you have an extra $15-20k in savings before accepting an IAM job. I am not ignorant of the workings of Boeing and the IAM but, admittedly, I fell for the BS from both sides about this contract negotiation and to not worry about a strike, much less a prolonged one. Now I’m STUCK! I invested too much to get here and take this job; can’t go back to my previous job. I’m not looking for pity I am just ANGRY and need to go back to work! Someone please lock these selfish, amoral, heartless, politician/negotiator idiots in a room with a dim light, no bathroom and no food or water and tell them that they can’t come out until this is settled!
This strike is tearing apart my family! I voted for the contract but have honored the strike vote and performed my picket duty. Now my choices are: A – cross the line, support my family, be ostracized by coworkers and damage my reputation before I have the opportunity to establish myself at Boeing; or, B – “hold the line”, make my family suffer and potentially lose them, lose my home, lose my vehicle, ruin my credit but still have the respect of the union. Great choices! I’m sick of hearing this “scab” and “traitor” nonsense. If I don’t do what the union wants me to do I am a “scab”; if I don’t do what my family NEEDS me to do I am a deadbeat. -continued-
“Last probably at least a couple more months”?!?! Maybe Wes can but I can barely last a couple more weeks!! I’m new, not a 38-year guy with a fat strike/vacation fund saved up! I saved up as much as I could in the short time that I’ve been here but it was gone quick. I’m using the VIP (what’s left of it) and BECU loans and credit cards (great, more debt) to get me through October but now what? The limited financial assistance provided by the union doesn’t cut it even with the $8 to $10 per hour I make at the very intermittent temp labor jobs I get! What happened to “we hold all of the cards”, “it’s our time, this time” and “don’t worry, it’ll only last a couple of weeks, a month at the tops"?! -continued-
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