en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/754961 Comments by Chestnut http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/sending-religious-christmas-cards-like-sending-mel-gibson-a-hanukkah-card/news/2011/12/13/31771#IDComment237636077 I dont understand the comparison with hanukka nor whats wrong with getting a card form a jew for hannukka. Imust say that one flew over my head. And why talk of Mel Gibson in Mel Gibson's name without asking him? She like bashing this verey honorable man, or just love to muster and feed her own old ingrowed prejudices? Mel Gibson do receive AND SEND Hanukka cards. She will be surprised! If only she could go over her assumptions and faulse world image, and seek real informations about the real world. There is people who are not as intolerant and close minded as Joy behar, and one of them is Mel Gibson. Wed, 14 Dec 2011 23:36:32 +0000 http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/sending-religious-christmas-cards-like-sending-mel-gibson-a-hanukkah-card/news/2011/12/13/31771#IDComment237636077 http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/sending-religious-christmas-cards-like-sending-mel-gibson-a-hanukkah-card/news/2011/12/13/31771#IDComment237635952 bs, its the thougth who count, and any one getting a christmas card should be happy to have firends and family thinking of them, and being so kind to write them and send them a nice card. Your stand point crewislife, show that you are a moron and not open at all to ther peoples view and very intolerant of thier choice in life. whats an overly religious christmas card? one that doesnt show santa showing his butt? Maybe you forgot that Christmas is a christian tradition and a religious celebration.. I pity your friends if you have any, Christmas cards are sweets, and always show that someone is thinking of you and sending you his or her love thoughts. Wed, 14 Dec 2011 23:36:14 +0000 http://thenewcivilrightsmovement.com/sending-religious-christmas-cards-like-sending-mel-gibson-a-hanukkah-card/news/2011/12/13/31771#IDComment237635952 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236817747 Are you done paroting me? You can go back in the asylum now. yeah, TMZ.com comment section... LOL Tue, 13 Dec 2011 09:38:57 +0000 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236817747 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236815142 Look we all know whom you are, sam from tmz, and that you are a cyberbully and only registered to can post here because you saw me, so bug off and leave me alone. Stalking is forbidden and so is cyberbullying. you want me to call the police on you? It is not at you to decide who want to post here nor what nor to decide what all other poeple here like to read about or not. what fans care about is none of your business nor for you to decide either. if you dont like what i say then dont read it!! but dont you dare ever to adress me again to make personal attacks on me! Got it? Tue, 13 Dec 2011 09:30:14 +0000 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236815142 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236813508 yes i agree with oyu, but he did apologise for his DUI. He made a two times 2 hours on GMA in ocotber 2006, and he amde several press conference where he apologised, where in 2 of them he was wioth soem rabbies and osme representant of jewish oprganisations. So he has apologised and profusely and also printed an apologise. He did nothing but apologise form august 2006 to december 2006. People who say he didnt are arse holes who never read a aper nor watch thenews back then. Its notlike it was invisible!! all media were tlaking about it. Tue, 13 Dec 2011 09:24:57 +0000 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236813508 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236811375 I dont see how you can justify peole working hard and making money, must not have the rigth to justice and tha ttis alrright that they gety goldiger trying to destroy their life and careeer just to can get at their money,m well assisted by the media. What do you think the media do in the story and why? make no money on destroying peole career? at least Mle Gibson make menaingsfull movies and work ahrd and earned his own money without aiming at damaging ohter peoles life in doing os nor spying on others nor living on others like a worm on a tree. and he use a big chunck of that money on building an in ternational surgery organisation to help poor people get free surgery fo their kids. Those tabloids never give a dime for charity but they sure give milions ofr a pic of a nude celebs. so what gives? Tue, 13 Dec 2011 09:18:44 +0000 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236811375 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236811327 He never threatend to kil that woman thus she certianly deserved to have both. Too sad nobody did it to her, perhaps you ned a tal with timothy dalton, she also charged him with DV back in the 90'es.. and tried to coin him wiht tapes of recorded phone conversations and DV in Novemebr 2008, 1½ year before she did the exact same thing to Mel Gibson, andin wortse here too it was Mle Gibson footing her legal bill, to help her as he had just met her, and ask him to get her a lawyer, and he directed her to his lawyer's office, Kolodny. She even tried in june this year to have kolodny removed form the custody case becasue she had used his lawyers office agaisnt tdalton for a "similar case" in november 2008.. Try to follow with the news. Mel Gibson had very good resons to be pissed at her and what we heard of it is only the top of the iceberg. didnt you noticed how most of the tapes are cut off, so you dont even know what the subject of them really is? Tue, 13 Dec 2011 09:18:34 +0000 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236811327 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236811196 Mel gibson never beated a woman in his life what are you tlaking about?? can you prove it? the golddiger had 5 million dolllars legal fess and 56 lawyers and couldnt prove a shred of what she was saying. Notg a iota of her accusations hold. But hse was very bussy denying acess to her computer and laptop and iphone and her medical records and not teling why she was taking hilly bily heroin since over 3 years, also known as Oxycodone. One can ask how coem a supposed victim had so much to hide and why. and why she felt the need to get her computers and iphone totaly deleted by a professional in the field, who was an ex-hacker and who also has teached in computer hacking to th FBI, and is now a lawyer. Tue, 13 Dec 2011 09:18:07 +0000 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236811196 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236806892 ""I slapped Oksana one time with an open hand in an attempt to bring her back to reality," Gibson said. "I did not slap her hard. I was just trying to shock her so that she would stop screaming, continuing shaking Lucia back and forth." Thats exactly what i said above dude so what is your problem with that? He slap her once to stop her form shaking the baby. Thats what i said,. and he said it in his swornm decalration to the poplice 3 days before oksana charged him with DV., and thats based on this that he was charged for misdemanour battery and not DV, and he couldnt say no and had to plead no contest, because the sentence was based on HIS OWN sworn declaration to the police and not on girgorievas DV accusatns. HAd he contested the sentenceing it wil ahve been like contesting what he had sworn under oth to the police, and will mena that he had lied under oath. Do you get it now?? Tue, 13 Dec 2011 09:02:33 +0000 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236806892 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236805861 He had to slap her to stop her form "shaking the baby like a rag doll" is exactly word ofr word what is in his testimony! those are the factsi am sure they wont sway your preconceived idea and stupid way to lok at the sentence when oyu dont even know why he had to do so and cant even understand why form the facts at hand. Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:58:59 +0000 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236805861 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236805802 hello dude,mthats exactly what i wrote above, cant you read? She jumped on the bed of her son while carrying the babyh in her amrs and shaking the baby like a rag dol. Which is exactly what mel gibson said in his testimony to the police, that he had ot stop her by slaping her once on the face. I mnever said tghat i was writting above a copy paste of his entie 6 pages testimony dude!! What has him pleading no contaest to do with it? dont you get it? of course he coldnt say no to it dude, he had himself testified of slping her once!! he couldnt say no without saying that he had lied in his testimony to the polce therofr was forced to plead no cotnest. and take a west plea who was accepted exactly because there was no DV but the misdemanour battery was fro his own testimony. I dont freaking understand what your problem is with what i wrotre dude. had you read what i said you willknow what i am talking about. Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:58:50 +0000 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236805802 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236804086 yes, all of this was even on the media, on TMZ.com with copy of court documents, and even radar online published some of the court documents. As for the sentencing it was very public and online. Mel Gibson declaration ot the police is dated 23 june 2010, oksana charge of DV was handled to the judge on june 25 2010. He was chaerged for misdemanour battery, this can be read in all media, whihc is the lowest charge you can get for physical contact and who is given in CA if you defend someone, even an old woman or an infant. All other states in USA do not charge you for defending someone unable to defend themselves as it is under legitime defense or self defense, as it was the case here. Had mel Gibson not declared to the police in june 23, 2010 that he had slap her once to make her stop from shaking the baby, he will not have been charged with anything. That was the very sad side of this case, together with the fact that she was never charged with extortion. Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:52:50 +0000 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236804086 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236801556 You have nothing on me, so all you can found ot do is to distort anything I post. You are so pathetic. Get a life where stalking and googling people you dont even know, is not part of the agenda. Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:44:50 +0000 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236801556 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236801503 Are you done bullying me and making personal attacks on me? you came here specificaly to go after me. I would like to know why? You are coming form TMZ arent you? As i told you in the past, cyberbullying is a crime and is forboidden and so is stalking. Sam is your user name there and you all the time tlak evil of Mle Gibson and attack all users who disagree with you. You think people are blind? If there was a mod on TMZ you will have been baned from there and reported to the police 1 ½ year ago. Mel Gibson's problems are very actual specialy when he is releasing a new movie as the release of The Beaver proved. I am bringing this as many others posted about it already, which you will know, had you came and registered to read the comments and post about this movie, and not specificaly to go after me. Stop to make calomnies about me, and attack me on the internet i am tired of you and stop stalking me. How can I be tainting the man's repuitation when i am defending him and unveiling the threats he was put under and unveiling the womans scams? Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:44:38 +0000 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236801503 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236799049 are you doing personal attacks on me? At least I am talking about Mel Gibson and not making cyberbullying on posters!! Tue, 13 Dec 2011 08:36:15 +0000 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236799049 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236502305 Mel Gibson didnt do anythign wrong. Where have you been in the past 2 years?? Mel Gibson declared to the police that he had slap her once on the face to make her stop shaling the new born baby that she was shaking franticaly since of 10 minutes refusing to stop! on janaury 06, 2010. Mel Gibson told that to the police on june 23, 2010, BEFORE he had been charged of DV. he was going to charge her for child abuse and msiconduct, when she charged him for DV on June 25-26 2010. So his testimony count a lot since he didnt even knew she was going to charge him with DV. It is based on his own testimony that he had slap her, that Mel Gibson was charged in March 11, 2011 with misdemanour battery and NOT DV. He was never charged for DV and never charged for beating anyone. He has done absolutly nothing wrong. Please stop being so brainwashed by the media absolute incompetence and superficiality. Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:05:03 +0000 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236502305 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236489282 So no Mle Gibson didn thave thmoney to do waht you said, and the DA's personal intersts came first before justice i this cse, as for politicalheat scuse me but who in politc was intersted to defend Mle Gibsn and come forht with tit in 2010 from july to december?? NOBODY: and nobody kow who her mobs contacts are who are located in Ukriane and not in USA btw.. and they dont give a flying f about politic. they are all on the CIA and FBI wanted list, do oyu see them being arrsted? nope Oksana went ot london in novmeebr 5, 2009, 5 days after the birth of the child. tell me how she pull that one wiht an aledged new born baby prematurly born.?? did oyu heard aboutit? sje wen tot london to give an onterview ot an inknown russian local tv chanel.. what? levcaing her son and a bbay alone hjome and without the knowledge of mel gibson who was in new york filing th ebeaver at that time!!?? she went there to make the last payment fo the trafiked baby. i saw nobody intersted to invetigate that. . Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:32:42 +0000 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236489282 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236489236 Thats the alone reaosn why oksana wasnt charged for extgrotion and child abuse: her lawyer talkto the DA and elt him understood in ni uncertain termes that if he went after her for extgortion he wil og after eric groeges who was the lawyer in charge of the dealings, as responsable fro extgportion and will exonerate his client, okdsana, on her Attorney form the mediation, Eric George! Thsi was even pblic since orrowitz published on TMZ.com several letters form eric gerge and oksana, shwoing that he was with in the scam, and j´knew it was an extortion, andeven send letters and wanrings agaisnt eric geroge, in summer 2010, and had eric gerogs email answer published on tmz!! the war was going on, but what the media worl wide failed ot notice, was tha tthis was the core of the case! they ditnt saw it not even when tit was stil so actual in novmeebr 2010 and in janaury 2011! right in the middel of meetings between Horrowitz and the DA. horrowitz beig the lawyer of the russian extortionist oksana grigeriova. Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:32:33 +0000 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236489236 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236489074 And about being an idiot to dont see an extrotion scam going on whos idiot are oyu talking about? mel gibson? he darn knrew the extortion was goingon he was the victim of it!! he had the best lawyers, it didnt stop the extortion to be pas as nothing dude. in case you didnt noticed it the DA's protegé is WEric George who was oksana's læawyer when she was extortion mel gibson with the tapes PRIOR to the explosion of DV case and pririr and during the may medaition who was notihng else but a money deal extortion tape for money disguised as a custody agreement. Thar attorney Eroic Goerge was also the DA's fund raiser for all his camiagn sincemany years, and still is!and in 2010 while this case was blowing, there was a DA election going on in LA... If the DA had aknowledged the extgortion charges as he should have, wiht all evidences summoned by the polic detectives who wanted her to be charged too, eric george will have had to be on the stand and quesitoned and be accused of extortion and disbarred! and this the DA couldnt let it hapen as the guy is his fundraiser and must laos know a llt of secret stuff about the DA that the DAwont like the public to know nor authorities.. Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:32:05 +0000 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236489074 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236488808 So his total cvalue falled fast to 400 milion dolars and faling, with half to his wife. Now they have splited the fortune and the divorce is almost finalised, but of the 200 million doalrs left Mle Gibson has most o fit not in cash, but in properties and in movies rights and actors rights and in movies he made film and os on who are inside icon, scripts, jet fly, and that kid of things who are not moneyon the table., Og that money are a big chunk in fonds for his kids and fonds for the churhc anf fonds for his medical oprganisation mending kids international, and hsi rain forest preservation organisation and his organisation to save historical sties in latin america, and ecologocal organisation. He has about 30 million dollars in cash, even les, whichis what needed to make a movie, of a mediium budget. Mon, 12 Dec 2011 17:31:23 +0000 http://bighollywood.breitbart.com/zleeman/2011/12/11/gibsons-upcoming-vacation-a-return-to-action-form/#IDComment236488808