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<title>Michael James Stone Online : http://whatdoyoubeleive.blogspot.com/2011/06/prophecy-today-q-tribes-or-2-jack.html</title>
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<description>Hello Jeff.  Do you want Old Testament ONLY or will New Testament be Ok? I am Not Jack Kelly but I am certain I can reply and discuss all that is posted on the blogs. -Michael </description>
<pubDate>Fri, 1 Jul 2011 19:56:26 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Michael James Stone Online : Prophecy Today Q&amp;A: &quot;More On The Book Of Life&quot; -Jack Kelley</title>
<link>http://michaeljamesstone.blogspot.com/2011/06/prophecy-today-q-on-book-of-life-jack.html#IDComment168702510</link>
<description>Thank You.... </description>
<pubDate>Fri, 1 Jul 2011 14:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Michael James Stone Online : Prophecy Article Today: &quot;&#039;Priestly Blessing on Jerusalem Day&quot; - Hillel Fendel</title>
<link>http://whatdoyoubeleive.blogspot.com/2011/06/prophecy-article-today-blessing-on.html#IDComment158626059</link>
<description>Slowly Restoring all the Commentary Links to all the sites </description>
<pubDate>Thu, 2 Jun 2011 20:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Michael James Stone Online : Prophecy Article Today: &quot;&#039;Priestly Blessing on Jerusalem Day&quot; - Hillel Fendel</title>
<link>http://michaeljamesstone.blogspot.com/2011/06/prophecy-article-today-blessing-on.html#IDComment158624224</link>
<description>It is a Step In the right direction, but I suspect we have to wait for a treaty to see any real progress and by that time I would  rather not be here. </description>
<pubDate>Thu, 2 Jun 2011 20:03:35 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Last Call : EverydayAnswers: Let a woman learn in quietness, in entire submissiveness. I allow no woman to teach</title>
<link>http://calvarylastcall.blogspot.com/2011/02/everydayanswers-let-woman-learn-in.html#IDComment131699735</link>
<description>&amp;quot;Whatsoever God tells you to do, that you should do.&amp;quot;  The issues people confuse are easy to solve if they want to &amp;quot;take apart&amp;quot; the facts in order to get to the Truth.  If a Boy is drowning and a man can&amp;#039;t swim, and He tells His wife to leave the  kid alone to learn how, and his wife can swim; What if the Boy drowns?  Stupid is as stupid does.  God never gives a gift except to be used and the issue in Scripture has always been about HOW we are doing something for God, not Who.  According to Scriptures, God is looking the World over for those whom He can be strong on their behalf.   Smart is as smart does.  If God is God, he can do anything He wants to and people frankly forget that. </description>
<pubDate>Tue, 1 Mar 2011 21:49:34 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Michael James Stone Online : http://michaeljamesstone.blogspot.com/2011/02/my-prayer-noise.html</title>
<link>http://michaeljamesstone.blogspot.com/2011/02/my-prayer-noise.html#IDComment130675200</link>
<description>It is my prayer, because I care, that only does he do it for others, but he begins with me. God Bless </description>
<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 20:20:15 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Last Call : http://michaeljamesstone.blogspot.com/2011/02/focusonthefamily-children-view.html</title>
<link>http://michaeljamesstone.blogspot.com/2011/02/focusonthefamily-children-view.html#IDComment130655673</link>
<description>Actually, No.  The problems with this approach is the lack of communication of clear direction and instruction but a &amp;quot;go find out&amp;quot; mentality that often neglects the acceptability and responsibility parents have to teach their children.  Jesus said, Bluntly, what you see is what you get.  Telling, discussing and enforcing a &amp;quot;no tolerance&amp;quot; policy is correct, but also knowing the facts of our society, the &amp;quot;reasons why&amp;quot; should be expained.  It IS an opportunity to discuss God, not a license to &amp;quot;talk it over&amp;quot; and get a freebie pass from Madame X </description>
<pubDate>Fri, 25 Feb 2011 18:49:37 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Last Generation (Generation 2012) : TheRaptureSeries: Jesus and His Church During the Tribulation -Lampert Dolphin</title>
<link>http://forthetimeisathand.blogspot.com/2011/01/theraptureseries-jesus-and-his-church.html#IDComment127795388</link>
<description>FYI&amp;quot; Lambert i spelled correctly in article and misspelled in comment as you ARE well aware of. </description>
<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2011 23:55:41 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Last Generation (Generation 2012) : TheRaptureSeries: Jesus and His Church During the Tribulation -Lampert Dolphin</title>
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<description>MacPherson I do recommend to people to see because as you list his claims next to his facts, you find issues with his &amp;quot;Spin&amp;quot;.  The point is whether a person can accept fact. The fact is an event occurs. The event is described. The &amp;quot;pro&amp;quot; and &amp;quot;con&amp;quot; people have both &amp;quot;stretched facts to fit.  Like calling Missler a &amp;quot;Copyist&amp;quot; I too am one. I copy and Paster material and most of the time have the materials author on it. So too Missler when He uses materials, He tells you, Look it up.  You can spin on either side, but with you can&amp;#039;t Looey. I state the facts from both sides and prove both can be accurate because God is greater and if we stay &amp;quot;IN FACTS&amp;quot; than there is no debate.  If God wants to Prepare you to REMAIN after an event where &amp;quot;Some&amp;quot; are taken and some are not, then He will Prepare you for that and it is likely you will not know till after the fact that a&amp;quot;snatching away&amp;quot; of &amp;quot;few&amp;quot; occured.  AND THAT WILL BE OK if you are doing His Will and serving Him.   As the Seven Letters show, NOT all will go, in fact you can ration a numerical equation of ALL Christianity like this: A= Total Number of Christians a /7/2 or All Christians divided by seven divided by two  THAT number is the MOST you can expect to be MIA so to speak because God promised.  As to the remaining...... and they well know, they will be martyred, or fall away. </description>
<pubDate>Sun, 13 Feb 2011 23:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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<title>Michael James Stone Online : DoctrineOfGod: WeekEnderBasics &quot;Who or what is God?&quot;</title>
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<description>&amp;quot;Who has ascended to heaven and come down? What is his name, and what is his son&amp;#039;s name? Surely you know! / מַה־שְּׁמוֹ וּמַה־שֶּׁם־בְּנוֹ כִּי תֵדָע (Prov. 30:4). Shalom, chaverim.   Since John Parsons covered it so fully, I wonder, is there any more questions? </description>
<pubDate>Sun, 6 Feb 2011 04:19:42 +0000</pubDate>
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<description>The Triunity is Jewish in origin... It does not derive from pagan ideas of &amp;quot;tri-theism&amp;quot; (Osirus-Isis-Horus) nor does it imply the worship of &amp;quot;three gods&amp;quot; (as has been slanderously charged by various adherents of Judaism and Islam). It predates the ideas of Gnostic modalism (2nd century AD), the Kabbalah&amp;#039;s doctrine of the sefirot as emanation from a triadic First Principle of the universe (14th century AD), and the Hindu modalism of &amp;quot;Trimurti&amp;quot; (4th century AD). The doctrine that there is only One God that is multidimensional (One what, Three who&amp;#039;s) exceeds the power of analogy, though we understand ourselves in three temporal modes (past-present-future) located in three spatial dimensions... Our bodies are also triune - body, soul, and spirit, and the world around us as a triunity of space, time, and matter.   Yeshua Ha-Mashiach (Jesus Christ) is YHVH &amp;quot;come in the flesh&amp;quot; (1 Jn. 4:2-3). Indeed, to say &amp;quot;Jesus Christ is Lord&amp;quot; (Phil 2:11; Rom. 10:9) is to confess Him as Adonai -- or YHVH -- Himself . As Jesus Himself said, &amp;quot;Whoever does not honor the Son does not honor the Father who sent Him&amp;quot; (John 5:22-23).  </description>
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<description>More: Moses also uses the word echad in Genesis 2:24 when he says: &amp;quot;And they (husband and wife) will become one flesh (basar echad).&amp;quot;  The idea of the triunity of God does not impugn the Oneness of God, but it transcends rabbinical Judaism and Islam&amp;#039;s idea of &amp;quot;absolute monism&amp;quot; by understanding oneness in reference to an eternality of intrapersonal community. In other words, Ultimate Reality is multidimensional, personal and loving, and that is part of the very essence of God. There is no such thing as a &amp;quot;Person&amp;quot; - either human or Divine - that exists in an absolute vacuum, outside of relationship. Aristotle&amp;#039;s &amp;quot;Unmoved Mover&amp;quot; is a solipsistic illusion and logical absurdity....  As for the deity of Jesus, Paul quoted Isaiah 45:23: &amp;quot;I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, that unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear&amp;quot; and applied it directly to Jesus: &amp;quot;Therefore God has highly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, so that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus the Messiah is Lord (YHVH), to the glory of God the Father&amp;quot; (Phil. 2:9-11; see also Rom. 14:11). The Apostle John also identifies Jesus with YHVH, the &amp;quot;First and the Last&amp;quot; of whom there is no other god (Isa. 44:6; Rev. 22:13, etc.). The very idea that Jesus is Melekh ha-Mashiach, the King of Israel, implies that He is none other than God, since only YHVH is the true King of Israel (Isa. 44:6). </description>
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<description>Taken from the Hebrew4christians site:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Articles/Triunit..&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Articles/Triunit...&lt;/a&gt;.  Recently I warned that certain &amp;quot;Messianic&amp;quot; teachers will attempt to seduce you into thinking that &amp;quot;following the law of Moses&amp;quot; is the best way to express your faith in Jesus... Beware, chaverim. These false teachers imply that the cross of Messiah (צְלַב הַמָּשִׁיחַ) is not enough. &amp;quot;True,&amp;quot; they hiss, &amp;quot;we are &amp;#039;saved&amp;#039; by grace -- but the rest is up to us...&amp;quot; In other words, Jesus lived and died to renew the covenant of Moses, and therefore we must return to Sinai. Our focus should be on Moses and the law.  Because of this, it&amp;#039;s not surprising to see why so many of these &amp;quot;Torah observant&amp;quot; teachers struggle with the idea that Jesus is none other than YHVH come &amp;quot;in the flesh.&amp;quot;  Though they might accept the idea that Jesus was the Jewish Messiah, they appear to have trouble with the idea that &amp;quot;God has a Son&amp;quot; and therefore struggle with the idea of the &amp;quot;Trinity&amp;quot; (השׁלושׁ הקּדושׁ) -- or the Triune nature of the Godhead.  The idea of the &amp;quot;Trinity,&amp;quot; however, is clearly implied in the Scriptures. From the first letter of Torah (i.e., the Bet in the word &amp;quot;Bereshit&amp;quot;) through the last letter of the New Testament (i.e., the Nun in the word &amp;quot;Amen&amp;quot;) -- the letters of which spell the word בּן (&amp;quot;Son&amp;quot;) -- we see God as defined as One yet expressing Himself in different Persons. God the Son is &amp;quot;First and Last&amp;quot; (Isa. 48:12, 44:6, Rev. 1:17, 2:8; 22:13):   Indeed, the very beginning of the Torah (Gen. 1:1-2) speaks about the creative activity of Elohim (God) and the presence of Ruach Elohim (the Spirit of God) as narrated by an omniscient Voice or Word of God. Obviously the Spirit of God is God Himself (who else?) just as the Word of God is likewise God Himself, and therefore the Scriptures begin with the idea that God represents Multiplicity within Unity.  The word for God (אֱלהִים) is plural in form, uses plural pronouns: &amp;quot;Let us make man in our image&amp;quot; (Gen. 1:26), and often is the subject of singular verbs.  In the Shema we read, &amp;quot;Shema Yisrael (Hear, O Israel): Adonai Eloheinu (the Lord our Gods), Adonai Echad (the Lord is one).&amp;quot; Interestingly, the word echad in Hebrew can imply a unity in diversity (the word for one and only one, i.e., unique, is more often rendered as yachid). For example, in Exodus 26:6 the parts of the Tabernacle (mishkan) are to be constructed so that &amp;quot;it shall be one (echad) tabernacle,&amp;quot; and Ezekiel spoke of two &amp;quot;sticks&amp;quot; (representing fragmented Israel) as being reunited into one: &amp;quot;and they shall be one (echad) stick in My hand&amp;quot; (Ezek. 37:19). </description>
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<description> The Human Jesus     Saturday, September 27, 2008 7:50:00 PM  Jared Nelson said...      Adam-      Well, you paid attention to one of my several points, though my main point still stands that Scripture does not use the word Lord (&amp;Kappa;&amp;upsilon;́&amp;rho;&amp;iota;&amp;omicron;&amp;sigmaf;) in the manner in which you use it. A simple glance through a concordance also contradicts your portrayal of the word אדון. We can see your interest in playing with words and forcing narrow definitions while ignoring the concepts.      Though the explicit identification of Jesus the Son with the words God and Lord are used in Scripture, this truth is not only communicated in those specific words that can be sophistically manipulated. I have pointed out above the broader concepts like words intended for Yahweh are directed to the Son in Heb 1:8-10, or the attributes of divinity attributed to Jesus or the worshipping of Jesus as God. I hope at some point you might step back from mere word-play to ask yourself: What if I&amp;rsquo;m wrong? What if the church got it right? What if it is proper to worship Christ as God and to call him &amp;quot;my Lord and my God&amp;quot; with Thomas? I pray you will come to worship God as he exists in his true Triune nature and as perfectly manifest in God the Son.     Sunday, September 28, 2008 9:21:00 PM   So no offense, you really need  Bettter Hebrew can I suggest to you:  &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Articles/Triunity/triunity.html&quot; target=&quot;_blank&quot;&gt;http://www.hebrew4christians.com/Articles/Triunit...&lt;/a&gt;  For those who don&amp;#039;t know Hebrew, or Messianic Heresies that are left over from Christian denominations that tries to cross over to a &amp;quot;Jewish sounding&amp;quot; appeal, Here is FACTS from Jews who do know Hebrew and do Know the subject matter............personally.  And Adam, it will only take about 5 minutes to read and prove.  I hope you do, too many are misled and don&amp;#039;t really know why......  Let me know what you think, Should be fun. </description>
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<description>BTW, even in the LXX including Psalm 110.1, this distinction between YAHWEH and l&amp;#039;adoni, to my lord (to kurio mou) is maintained!      Let me close with this quote by James D.G. Dunn in regards to     1 Cor 8.6 &amp;amp; the title &amp;quot;Lord&amp;quot; :-      Unity &amp;amp; Diversity in the New Testament, SCM Press Ltd, 1977, page 53:      &amp;ldquo;Should we then say that Jesus was confessed as God from the earliest days in Hellenistic Christianity? That would be to claim too much.     (1) The emergence of a confession of Jesus in terms of divinity was largely facilitated by the emergence of Psalm 110:1 from very early on (most clearly in Mark 12:36; Acts 2:34f.;     I Cor. 15:25; Heb. 1:13).      The Lord says to my lord:     &amp;lsquo;Sit at my right hand,     till I make your enemies your footstool&amp;rsquo;.      Its importance here lies in the double use of kyrios. The one is clearly Yahweh, but who is the other?     Clearly not Yahweh, but an exalted being whom the Psalmist calls kyrios.     (2) Paul calls Jesus kyrios, but he seems to have marked reservations about actually calling him &amp;lsquo;God.&amp;rsquo; ...     Similarly he refrains from praying to Jesus. More typical of his attitude is that he prays to God through Christ     (Rom. 1:8; 7:25; II Cor. 1:20; Col. 3:17).     (3) &amp;lsquo;Jesus is Lord&amp;rsquo; is only part of a fuller confession for Paul. For at the same time as he affirms &amp;lsquo;Jesus is Lord&amp;rsquo;, he also affirms &amp;lsquo;God is one&amp;rsquo; (I Cor. 8:5-6; Eph. 4:5-6). Here Christianity shows itself as a developed form of Judaism, with its monotheistic confession as one of the most important parts of its Jewish inheritance; for in Judaism the most fundamental confession is     &amp;lsquo;God is one.&amp;rsquo; &amp;lsquo;There is only one God&amp;rsquo;     (Deut. 6:4). Hence also Rom. 3:30; Gal. 3:20, I Tim. 2:5 (cf. James 2:19). Within Palestine and the Jewish mission such an affirmation would have been unnecessary &amp;mdash; Jews and Christians shared a belief in God&amp;rsquo;s oneness. But in the Gentile mission this Jewish presupposition within Christianity would have emerged into prominence, in face of the wider belief in &amp;lsquo;gods many.&amp;rsquo;     The point for us to note is that Paul can hail Jesus as Lord not in order to identify him with God, but rather, if anything, to distinguish him from the One God     (cf. particularly I Cor. 15:24-28; ...).&amp;rdquo;       Yours In Messiah     Adam Pastor </description>
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<description>Continued: 2) Mr. Pastor&amp;rsquo;s reflections on &amp;ldquo;echad&amp;rdquo; (or one) do not clarify. Two Persons are refered to as one flesh in Gen 2:24. Two Persons can therefore make up one reality. Jesus makes a similar connection in John 10:30, when he says &amp;ldquo;The Father and I are one.&amp;rdquo; The question is &amp;ldquo;one what?&amp;rdquo; The what is God. Two persons in Genesis 2:24 make up one flesh. Two Persons (Jesus and the Father) make up one God, without using a different sense of echad, one.  The language for Jesus&amp;rsquo; status as Son is that he is begotten. When mentioned in John 3:16, the word is actually a combination of one, or only and begotten (&amp;mu;&amp;omicron;&amp;nu;&amp;omicron;&amp;gamma;&amp;epsilon;&amp;nu;&amp;eta;́&amp;sigmaf;). The distinction should then be made between sons of God in the sense of the saints, and this different category for Jesus. This is the Father begetting a Son, not merely adopting as with God and men. Tell me, what is your father? When a father begets, is it something different from himself? Do pigs beget dogs, or do humans beget bananas? No, human begets human. God begets God. God the Father begets God the Son.   3) On propitiation by man I will respond later when I have a little more time. at 10:19 AM Labels: Christ, Trinity 49 comments:  Adam Pastor said...      Jared, thanks for watching the video, thanks for your time, &amp;amp; thanks for your comments.      In conclusion, I must simply point out that where you say ...     &amp;quot;when Matthew 22:44 quotes Psalm 110:1. The Hebrew read: &amp;ldquo;Yahweh said to my adonai&amp;rdquo;&amp;quot; ...     the Hebrew you present is blatantly incorrect.     I&amp;#039;m surprised you even rendered like this, after watching the video.      Let me explain:     the Hebrew of Psalm 110:1 is in fact,     &amp;quot;YAHWEH said to adoni&amp;quot;      &amp;quot;My lord&amp;quot; in this verse is NOT the Hebrew word, Adonai;     rather it is the Hebrew &amp;quot;adoni&amp;quot;!     Big difference! Why?      &amp;quot;adoni&amp;quot; in all its 195 occurrences in the OT, is never used in ref. to Almighty GOD;     rather, it is used to denote someone who is NOT GOD, NOT Deity!     It is solely used to denote beings/lords who are NOT GOD i.e. humans and occasionally angels.     (Please check a Hebrew bible; or confer with someone who reads Hebrew to verify that the word in Psalm 110.1 is in fact &amp;quot;adoni&amp;quot; NOT Adonai! )      Thus, from the Hebrew language of Psalm 110.1, it can be shown that the &amp;quot;lord&amp;quot; who was ordained to be at YAHWEH&amp;#039;s right hand, had to be someone who is NOT GOD, NOT Deity.      Thus, some English translations have dropped the capital &amp;#039;L&amp;#039; when realizing the 2nd word &amp;quot;lord&amp;quot; is not Adonai e.g.     NRSV: The LORD says to my lord  </description>
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<description>Continued from post: So we can see, the Scriptures do not share Mr. Pastor&amp;rsquo;s characterizations of the words God and Lord as exclusive to either the Father or the Son, but present them as applying to both the Father and the Son. And as said before, Thomas gives Jesus both titles unambiguously: &amp;ldquo;My Lord and my God!&amp;rdquo; (John 20:28) So should we.  B) Jesus possesses Divine attributes  Mr Pastor&amp;rsquo;s presentation of John 1:1-4 is brief, which is appropriate as it destroys his argument. When in John 1:14 we are told the &amp;ldquo;Word became flesh,&amp;rdquo; Pastor says, &amp;ldquo;Its in verse 14 that GOD&amp;#039;s [spoken] word became flesh resulting in Jesus Christ.&amp;rdquo; The Word is identified here, but it is not identified as spoken, he has read this in himself. The Word is identified as &amp;ldquo;God.&amp;rdquo; The &amp;ldquo;Word was God.&amp;rdquo; This time, singular as in the one God, not plural as in John 10&amp;rsquo;s exploration of elohim as applying to Moses. When God becomes flesh, when the Eternal takes on the temporal, yes, this results in Jesus in his full Person as God and as man.  Jesus is the Word of God, that is God. God became Flesh, and so is identified by John the Baptist in John 1:15. This shows us the shared divine attributes of Jesus and the Father since John the Baptist declares that Jesus pre-exists John the Baptist in John 1:15, 30, even though Jesus was born as man after John. This is the next point that leads us to acknowledge Jesus&amp;rsquo; deity, namely that Jesus has the same divine attributes as the Father such as here eternality, or such as Omnipotence and Authority (Matt 28:18), Omnipresence (Matt 28:20), and Omniscience (John 1:48, Matt 11:47). The teaching of Scripture is that Jesus was first in the morphe of God, before becoming in the morphe of man (Phil 2). Jesus was God taking on flesh, not flesh being bestowed a title.  C) Jesus is worshipped as God  The Scriptures make clear commands that no one is to be worshiped except God. (Ps 115:1, Isa 42:8, Luke 4:8) Yet, we also see that the author of Hebrews wants to attack the idea that Jesus is just a high figure like an angel. In Heb 1:5-6, the author writes that the Father says of the Son: &amp;quot;Let all God&amp;#039;s angels worship him.&amp;quot; This passage is very reminiscent of Psalms 97:7: &amp;ldquo;All worshipers of images are put to shame, who make their boast in worthless idols; worship him, all you gods (elohim)!&amp;rdquo; Such a passage also brings in our previous point, namely that Christ&amp;rsquo;s status of elohim is higher than the judges or Moses, for Jesus is to be worshipped. Worship is only allowed for God, yet worship is commanded of Jesus, the Son. This is because the Son is God.   </description>
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<description>Continued from post:  Mr. Pastor has questioned the use of Theos applied to Jesus as being used in a different sense than when applied to the Father. Though I do not accept that as valid, the Scriptures are so clear as to the deity of Jesus that we can establish such a diety even beyond the explicit identification of Jesus as God in passages such as John 20:28, Titus 2:13, etc. I must point out, however, one wonders how exactly Mr. Pastor would expect the authors of Scripture to express Jesus as God in the same way as the Father explicitly if they do not do so even by the identification of Christ as both Lord and God in John 20:28.  Mr. Pastor, however, has set up a dichotomy between Lord and God, God as an singular existential state and Lord (or even God) as a title like Moses stated above, I.e. judge and magistrate. According to him, God is the Father, and the Lord is Jesus. Does the Scripture do this? It seems to in 1 Cor 8:6 in using the appellation of God for the Father and Lord for Jesus:       &amp;ldquo;there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom are all things and through whom we exist.&amp;rdquo;   But this begs a further question: What does it mean that Jesus is called Lord (&amp;Kappa;&amp;upsilon;́&amp;rho;&amp;iota;&amp;omicron;&amp;sigmaf;)?  Mr. Pastor has claimed that Jesus is only god in the sense of elohim. Yet, the additional title given to Jesus of &amp;Kappa;&amp;upsilon;́&amp;rho;&amp;iota;&amp;omicron;&amp;sigmaf; (Lord) is bestowed on the Hebrew names of Elohim, Adonai and Yahweh indiscriminately. One can see this in Psalms 16:2, where the text reads: &amp;ldquo;Yahweh, you are my adonai.&amp;rdquo; The Greek Septuagint (LXX) translates both of these as Lord (&amp;Kappa;&amp;upsilon;́&amp;rho;&amp;iota;&amp;omicron;&amp;sigmaf;): &amp;ldquo;Lord, you are my Lord.&amp;rdquo; Not only does the LXX do so, but the New Testament does as well, such as when Matthew 22:44 quotes Psalm 110:1. The Hebrew read: &amp;ldquo;Yahweh said to my adonai&amp;rdquo; and is translated into Greek in Matthew 22:44 as &amp;ldquo;The Lord (&amp;Kappa;&amp;upsilon;́&amp;rho;&amp;iota;&amp;omicron;&amp;sigmaf;) said to my Lord (&amp;kappa;&amp;upsilon;&amp;rho;&amp;iota;&amp;omega;, genitive of &amp;Kappa;&amp;upsilon;́&amp;rho;&amp;iota;&amp;omicron;&amp;sigmaf;).&amp;rdquo; Both uses contain the singular article.  Therefore, Mr Pastor&amp;rsquo;s statement of there being only &amp;ldquo;ONE GOD,[and] ONE Lord&amp;rdquo; as one God=Father, and one Lord=Son, is false then under his own method of reading, because the Father (identified by Mr. Pastor as Yahweh) is Lord and Jesus is Lord. There would then be two identified as Lord! This is important, because this affects one&amp;rsquo;s reading of 1 Cor 8:6 &amp;ldquo;there is one God, the Father, from whom are all things and for whom we exist, and one Lord, Jesus Christ.&amp;rdquo; This is no proof text for Mr. Pastor when by Paul saying there is &amp;ldquo;one Lord Jesus Christ,&amp;rdquo; this is not to the exclusion of the Lordship of the Father (for the Father is called Lord too as displayed above). Within the same sentence, Paul cannot mean &amp;ldquo;there is one God the Father&amp;rdquo; to the exclusion of the diety of Christ. The two phrases of &amp;ldquo;one God the Father&amp;rdquo; and &amp;ldquo;one Lord Jesus Christ&amp;rdquo; are identifications, not theological statements of &amp;ldquo;Jesus only is Lord, and not the Father&amp;rdquo; or &amp;ldquo;The Father only is God and not Jesus.&amp;rdquo; One could just as easily say, there is one God the Father and one Lord Jesus Christ as there is one Lord the Father and one God Jesus Christ. The titles of God and Lord belong to both Jesus and the Father, without ceasing to be truly one God and one Lord in their shared Godhead. There is one God, and the Father is God and Jesus is God.  We see this identification not only of the Father as Lord, but of the Son with the same titles as the Father in Hebrews 1:10. There, the author says the Father speaks to the Son (Heb 1:8) words intended for Yahweh in Psalm 102. The preceding verses contains the title of Yahweh for God, then says the Father spoke to the Son the words directed to Yahweh. Jesus being called Lord in Heb 1:10 entails everything that the Father being called Lord entails, and addresses Jesus as Yahweh.  This also shows Mr. Pastor&amp;rsquo;s sarcastic statement &amp;ldquo;GOD is now in the presence of GOD for us!?! Pleassseee!&amp;rdquo; to be silly and childish, in that we may say &amp;ldquo;The Lord is in the presence of the Lord.&amp;rdquo; Such as is the reality we have seen in Matt 22:44 - &amp;ldquo;The Lord said to my Lord, Sit at my right hand.&amp;rdquo;  </description>
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<description>Greetings Adam, Sorry, No.  You don&amp;#039;t remember me Adam But I do know your ideas so I don&amp;#039;t need to watch TV or your video: Your previous post:  A Reply to Mr. Adam Pastor: A Vindication of the Deity of our Lord Jesus Christ Posted by Jared Nelson  Under an old post, one Adam Pastor commented attacking the Christian doctrine of the Trinity, specifically in the point of the Deity of Jesus. I encourage you to read it here first if you want the full background to this reply, and on another blog where the issue came up again. Adam Pastor&amp;rsquo;s response contains 3 main points.  1) Jesus is god as in elohim (a given title), not Yahweh (a matter of essence) so God is Father, Son is Lord 2) Echad = one (?) 3) Propitiation can be accomplished by a mere man  First, I might point out that Mr. Pastor has conceded that Jesus is identified as God by Thomas (John 20:28), but has insisted that, in short, &amp;ldquo;God doesn&amp;rsquo;t always mean God,&amp;rdquo; in that, Jesus is not God in the sense that the Father is God (ultimately identified by Mr. Pastor in the Hebrew name Yahweh). The premise of this is stating that the Scriptures identify Jesus as &amp;ldquo;elohim,&amp;rdquo; but that is a title given to Judges and Moses as God&amp;rsquo;s &amp;ldquo;ultimate Judge and Representative.&amp;rdquo; Such an interpretation is given to John 10:34-35, where Jesus uses the plural of God (&amp;theta;&amp;epsilon;&amp;omicron;&amp;iota;). I agree that Jesus is bestowed with titles of Judge and being Representitive. In fact, Jesus is also identified as an &amp;ldquo;apostle&amp;hellip;of our confession.&amp;rdquo; (Heb 3:1) Jesus is indeed the Representative, Judge and Apostle of God.  But is this all that Jesus is?  Mr. Pastor submits yes saying:       &amp;ldquo;There is ONE GOD, the Father.     The man Christ Jesus our Lord is in Heaven at the ONE GOD&amp;#039;s right hand.     The Lord Jesus is the ONE GOD&amp;#039;s right hand man so to speak!     ONE GOD and ONE man!      It&amp;#039;s that simple. It is not a difficult teaching at all.&amp;rdquo;   Or more simply in the earlier reply:      &amp;quot;ONE GOD, the Father; &amp;amp;     ONE Man, the man Messiah Jesus our Lord!!     ONE GOD, ONE Man     ONE GOD, ONE Lord&amp;quot;    I submit no, this is not all that Jesus is on three grounds beyond the explicit identification of Jesus as God:  A) Jesus is identified as God in the same way the Father is B) Jesus possess Divine Attributes C) Jesus is to be Worshipped as God  A) Jesus is identified as God in the same way the Father is. </description>
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<title>Last Call : http://michaeljamesstone.blogspot.com/2011/02/bobcaldwell-remember-god-in-all-that-he.html</title>
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<description>Now you know. I guess God was teaching you where the mute button is. Personal Preference on a personal site is personal. I appreciate you being the first one in three years to “not like” the music.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Google Michael James Stone. ALL my sites on WordPress and posterous do not have music. And yes, there are a lot of sites and a variety of formats. Each site usually has a “Music” site. A Text site. A simple format site and posts on facebook, twitter and google buzz.&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;Hope that helps&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt;&lt;br /&gt; </description>
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