en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/4261459 Comments by mark6492 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2012/04/12/voices-from-the-classroom-147/#IDComment338241805 The question: save your mother, wife or child? The answer…..who knows. But I will try to answer this and give the thought process. First I will go through and say I would save each one. Mother: She brought me into the world, I should save her. She raised me as a child and has given me everything I ever needed. Without her I would not only not be who I am today, but I would not be here today. Wife: She is the person I chose to live with forever, the person I truly loved. She means more then me then anyone in the world and I made a promise to do whatever I needed to for her. Child: The child I brought into this world, my child. A young person whose entire life is ahead of them. If anything were to ever happen to them, then I would feel 110% guilty and never be able to live with myself. After thinking it through, honestly, this is quite easy (in a weird way). I would save the child. I would rather I die then any of them, but if I had to pick it is the child. And my mother and wife would agree. The kid has his entire life ahead of him and does not deserve to pass away. There is no way I would be able to live with myself if I did not pick my child. There is no way my mother or wives could live with themselves if I picked them ahead of the child. The child is my legacy, he is who I raise him or her to be. To allow him or her to die would be something that nobody could live with. People always say the worst pain is to lose a child, it is something you can not get over no matter if they are an infant or 15 or 20 or 25. It is something that very parent fears from the time they realize they are having a kid. If I were to choose my wife, neither of us could live with ourselves knowing what we had done. And if I chose my mother, the same thing would occur. I wish it was easier and I could sacrifice my own life for all 3 to survive, since that is my outlook. I would risk my life for my mother, I would risk it for my wife, and I would most certainly risk it for my child. But at the end of the day if I really had to make this decision, a decision that nobody should ever have to be put into the position to make as it is unfair and almost not possible. I would pick my child. It is the only way I could live with myself,, knowing that I need to keep going to raise the child into the person my wife, my mother and I want or wanted him to be. Fri, 13 Apr 2012 15:55:03 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2012/04/12/voices-from-the-classroom-147/#IDComment338241805 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2012/04/03/voices-from-the-classroom-140/#IDComment332654475 This is an interesting question that many people have questioned since we began to have priests and other clergy lead our religions. I was raised a catholic, went to catholic school for 12 years, and still question the same thing. Why do I need to talk to someone else for them to connect me too God. That literally makes no sense and is something that I will never understand. God is this huge presence that controls all of us. He is always watching us (which is very creepy by the way, but we’ll ignore that) and is always there for us. But for all of that, we feel the nee to go to another human being – who eats what we eat, sleeps like we sleep, breathes like we breathe- to have this connection with some bigger god. That is something that I will never understand. But to answer the question, why do I think we humans find the need to have this connection through the priest to God? Well I think it is because we are scared of how big and powerful God is if he is really there and we also have that doubt – if he is really there. The priest gives us a way to connect to be one with God. If I pray at my house, I feel like I am talking to myself. But if I pray at church, I get the feeling that maybe, just maybe, that priest who si supposedly connected to God is real and II am actually talking to this God. But is this right? Is this correct? Is this the way it should be? This I am not sure about. You can have your own relationship with God if you so chose; you can be friends with him and talk freely to him whenever you want and about whatever you want. That is ok, that is completely fine. But people who do this sometimes do not feel the same connection to God that other feel. Something is missing, they aren’t sure what, but something is missing. We need to be able to connect to God by ourselves if we want to truly believe, we need to have this personal relationship between God and ourselves. Nut the priest is the medium we use to help develop this relationship, to foster it. We need them to help us connect to this person, this humongous force that decides everything here on earth. We feel we may be too weak, that God will simply ignore us, and we lack the skills to connect with him to develop this relationship. But by having a priest there we are able to have this relationship much easier. The reason we need the priest to have a relationship is too help us understand and to develop this relationship. The relationship is still between God and yourself if you believe, the priest just helps to strengthen and maintain it. Thu, 5 Apr 2012 23:47:27 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2012/04/03/voices-from-the-classroom-140/#IDComment332654475 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2012/03/27/voices-from-the-classroom-135/#IDComment327227428 The video about the Asians trying to speak English and answer the questions about football was pretty funny. Sure, some people may find it offensive. We heard from the black girl shouting about how it was terrible and she complained for a while. Sure, we may have ignored pretty much everything she said as she was shouting loudly and hurting our ears, but it showed some people didn’t find it funny like I did. It may have been offensive, but so is the majority of the things we find funny, you just need to ignore it and realize that everyone gets made fun of. If people make fun of white people and it’s funny, yes I will find it funny. But the question posed in the video asks would it have been as funny if it were white foreigners. And my answer to this is simple: yes, it would still be funny but it also may be missing part of the joke. Half the joke was they couldn’t speak English. The other half was that they were making fun of the fact that Asians don’t know much about sports and making fun of this. But if it was white foreigners, we don’t get this bias as much about them knowing very little about sports. Whether Asians speak 1 word in English or are completely fluent, we still tend to think they know nothing about sports. But with white people, we do not tend to do this as much in my opinion. One interesting thing I was thinking about is how the people in the class would’ve reacted if it had been white foreigners. Would the black girl still have screamed bloody murder and rudely interrupted other people in the class? Would she have cared as much if it were white people instead of “non-white” people? I do not think she would have honestly. She may have had thoughts about it but I do not think she would have voiced them quite as loudly, and probably, not voiced them at all. The fact that many Asians in the class found it funny shows the true purpose of the video that was made, for humor, not to tear apart all Asians and say they suck. No, the purpose is to get people to laugh. When they make fun of black people, it is too make people laugh. When they make fun of white people, the point is to get people to laugh. And if they happened to switch the video to make fun of white foreigners, it would be to make people to laugh. The video definitely would have been funny if it had been white people from foreign countries who struggled to answer as well. But that is not what the video was and it may not have been quite as funny if it had been. Thu, 29 Mar 2012 17:08:03 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2012/03/27/voices-from-the-classroom-135/#IDComment327227428 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2012/03/15/voices-from-the-classroom-123/#IDComment322945223 My perspective on war has not changed much. It was cool to hear from a guy with a different perspective, it was kind of eye opening. But that has not changed it. First I should identify my own perspective. I think the war was a good move and I support the war fully. Maybe it is a war on oil, on power, on whatever. But there were terrible people in power over there and change had to be made. Did the US have to be the one to make the change? No. But someone had to and history shows, that’s normally the US. So we went in and attempted to take care of what we had to do. And I feel we did a pretty solid job of doing this. We removed the people from power we had to and have made efforts to rebuild. But that is my perspective, but the question is did it change. Hearing the other side was interesting, how he does not feel we can do anything as average citizens. But I would feel the same way if I was him. I would not care much about what other people had to say about all of this. We went in and messed up his country from his own perspective. But from ours, we removed a dangerous person from power, a move that had to be made. And we were very successful in doing this. Sure maybe we could have done it differently, could have changed how we did it. The other side is interesting, if I put myself in someone else’s shoes. I live in the country and the other country (us in this idea) went in and messed everything up. Many of my friends have been killed; homes destroyed, and stuff generally ruined. I would be pissed off, angry, wanting to fight back. But step back and look at it from the other side. Your country was a complete and total crap shoot which was scaring the rest of the world. You are unstable, harboring terrorist organizations and a threat for the rest of the world. Other countries around the world are scared of you and we don’t know what you are going to do. From this perspective, you need to realize what’s going on. Your country is a threat for everyone and the US had to help them to remove it. So no, my perspective has not changed on this as all because of what I saw and heard. It was interesting and definitely worth looking at, but at the end of the day, it has not changed my outlook. The war is a good idea, it was worth getting into, and I fully support it. Fri, 23 Mar 2012 21:39:14 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2012/03/15/voices-from-the-classroom-123/#IDComment322945223 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2012/03/13/voices-from-the-classroom-119/#IDComment317680755 When Sam started the lecture, there was one thing made clear: leave your shoes and go into the shoes of someone else. That means ignore your own feelings and attempt to try to think and feel like the other people would. I think that the people who argued this lecture on Twitter and other ways ignored this. Let me look at the lecture for a second. If I listened to this through my own shoes, I would have a different perception. I would think “Christian invaders” was just Sam suddenly trying to cause some noise in the room, get people riled up. We’re not Christian invaders, we are the best country around who is just doing what we need to do. We are there to help, we are not doing anything wrong, and the people there should be grateful. We are risking our own lives to better them and for them to live peacefully. Sure, a few of them may die accidentally, that’s a shame. But in general, we are helping them and that is what matters. But Sam wanted us to look at it from their view, not our view, and I feel many failed. As I watched it, at times I would forget and have the feelings Sam is a moron. Then I would remember to stay in the other people’s shoes. From there shoes, we are people coming over who made it worse, who aren’t really helping that much. And that makes sense actually. If people came to America, I would be pissed. Its our land, not someone else’s and I have pride for our land. Over in Iraq, they see people calling it a crusade and making religious references. They know we want their oil, that we want a bunch of the stuff other than there supposed freedom. In conclusion, people need to listen. When we are told to leave our shoes and enter someone else’s, do that. Cause otherwise you are not getting what you should be getting out of the lecture. And I feel that was the big issue and why many people got so angry, almost hostile, against what Sam was saying. We need to realize that our view of the wars is different from a man in Iraq. But yes, I think all that Twitter talk was simply people not following the directions that we were given. And that is why there was anger and an unwillingness to listen. Fri, 16 Mar 2012 17:31:43 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2012/03/13/voices-from-the-classroom-119/#IDComment317680755 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2012/03/13/voices-from-the-classroom-119/#IDComment317680565 When Sam started the lecture, there was one thing made clear: leave your shoes and go into the shoes of someone else. That means ignore your own feelings and attempt to try to think and feel like the other people would. I think that the people who argued this lecture on Twitter and other ways ignored this. Let me look at the lecture for a second. If I listened to this through my own shoes, I would have a different perception. I would think “Christian invaders” was just Sam suddenly trying to cause some noise in the room, get people riled up. We’re not Christian invaders, we are the best country around who is just doing what we need to do. We are there to help, we are not doing anything wrong, and the people there should be grateful. We are risking our own lives to better them and for them to live peacefully. Sure, a few of them may die accidentally, that’s a shame. But in general, we are helping them and that is what matters. But Sam wanted us to look at it from their view, not our view, and I feel many failed. As I watched it, at times I would forget and have the feelings Sam is a moron. Then I would remember to stay in the other people’s shoes. From there shoes, we are people coming over who made it worse, who aren’t really helping that much. And that makes sense actually. If people came to America, I would be pissed. Its our land, not someone else’s and I have pride for our land. Over in Iraq, they see people calling it a crusade and making religious references. They know we want their oil, that we want a bunch of the stuff other than there supposed freedom. In conclusion, people need to listen. When we are told to leave our shoes and enter someone else’s, do that. Cause otherwise you are not getting what you should be getting out of the lecture. And I feel that was the big issue and why many people got so angry, almost hostile, against what Sam was saying. We need to realize that our view of the wars is different from a man in Iraq. But yes, I think all that Twitter talk was simply people not following the directions that we were given. And that is why there was anger and an unwillingness to listen. Fri, 16 Mar 2012 17:31:26 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2012/03/13/voices-from-the-classroom-119/#IDComment317680565 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2012/02/29/what-more-do-you-want-to-think-about/#IDComment310013243 To pick one thing that has stood out to me in this class is quite a question. The entire class has stood out to me. A teacher who jumps around on his desk, is named one of the most dangerous teachers in America, who talks about past experiences with drugs, who talks about the white team, who is being filmed to be put on PBS. I could go on for 10 pages with the crap I have seen in this class I swear. But the one thing that has definitely stood out to me is just the way that Sam has been able to teach the class, a way I have never seen from a teacher before and a way that is actually pretty damm interesting. This became apparent to me when we talked about suicide rates. Sam said that blacks had the lowest success rate and than looks at a black kid and says, “you guys can’t even do that right?” Sitting near the back, I though, holy shit did he actually say that. Once I realized that he had, and later confirmed it via Twitter, I started to think. How can a teacher possibly get away with this. But I continued to think and changed it a bit, why can’t all teachers teach like this. Shouldn’t the people who are teaching us tell us everything they think, show us the thought process? I mean, sure they can lecture us and read us slides and tell us what they were told. But Sam is a bit different. Although you can say some of his stuff is complete BS, and Sam would often even agree, it I just mind opening seeing it from a teacher. Sam has a reputation and he is able to teach like this (god only knows how). But it is the way that more people should be willing to teach. As long as the facts he presents us are true, he should give us his honest thoughts on them, not some made up crap that sounds correct. Maybe what I am trying to say is that what has stood out to me is that Sam is still employed. Cause that is completely mind-boggling. But it is not cause I do not think he should be, but it is because the way we have been taught, and the way we heave learned to be taught, is not what I have seen over the past 8 weeks. Sam breaks the old of the ‘normal’ teacher and that is awesome to see. Maybe every teacher shouldn’t teach like this, I have no idea how that would work, but having one teacher teach this way is pretty damm cool and that has stood out to me. Wed, 7 Mar 2012 00:49:31 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2012/02/29/what-more-do-you-want-to-think-about/#IDComment310013243 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2012/02/22/voices-from-the-classroom-109/#IDComment300159950 I feel that discussing race and test scores directly ties into economic status. But looking at the way it was presented and how we take those factors into effect, it certainly is more interesting. According to what we heard in class, the more money your family has the better you will do in school. I think there are quite a few reasons for this. First off, if your family ahs more money there is a very good chance that you are raised in a better school district and have had better schooling. This schooling allows you to be smarter and leads to better test scores. Another thing that having more money does is allow you to be raised better. You can spend time with your parents more as they could be working less, which allows you to score better on tests at the end of the day. Both of these reasons are important reasons for what happens. Race does start to come into play here. African Americans are often in schools districts inner city. Which are historically worse than suburban schools in laces like Philadelphia. They are at a huge disadvantage here and cannot get the proper schooling to allow them to fulfill their academic dreams. Many white suburban middle class families are in better school districts, which allows them to have better schooling. This is not because they are white or black, butt rather because the white or black people have different incomes. The fact that their skin color can identify them in this way is secondary and not the reason that they are in that position. To rid ourselves of so-called inequalities is very interesting topic to discuss, as no one has the answer. We need to farther schooling for blacks and offer them programs that can help them to succeed. There are many of these programs offered, with many different organizations working towards them. But at the end of the day, it will; take more than this. We must change the way we live and act, change the way we talk and think, we must change everything about what we do. These inequalities have been place for a while and are a solid wall that needs to slowly be taken apart. It is a wall that stands in the way that no one has been able to conquer because we need everyone to conquer it. Once we can overtake this wall we can then move forward with equal education and giving everyone an equal chance. Do I think this will happen soon? No I do not and frankly, I do not think it will happen in my lifetime. But we know what we need to do and we need to work towards at least starting to do it. Fri, 24 Feb 2012 01:01:20 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2012/02/22/voices-from-the-classroom-109/#IDComment300159950 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2012/02/15/voices-from-the-classroom-107/#IDComment294357930 What makes the planet go? Who started it and why did they start it? Who do you think started it? Well to be honest, I have no clue. Absolutely no clue whatsoever about whom started it and why the heck they started it. But it was started, cause we are here now and I guess that means I need to have some sort of belief system about why it started. I mean, I could just go through life and think no one started it. That would be cool but then people say I need to believe something. So yea, I guess I kind of do. I believe that it was started by the big band theory. The thing where the planets and space went boom, we formed and then WOW, we are here today. Yea, I believe that. Cause I have to believe something. Cause that's how the world works. We exist here on earth and we have no idea if anyone else lives in the universe. But we are wondering what the driving force behind us living on earth is and that is confusing. I was brought up in a Roman Catholic house and was told we were created by God. Jesus died and came back to life, saving us all from sin and saved the world. He died for us. That's what I was taught for 12 years. And I swear the reason I do not believe it now is because it was shoveled down my throat for those years. That is how they wanted me to believe everything. I think the earth came about it the big bang and then we formed. I think that people need something to believe in, they always do, and I think that’s where this whole belief thing came from. There are hundreds of religions and God’s, and we have no idea what the heck we are to believe in the world. It simply does not make sense. What is true? I have no idea, nor does anyone else in this class. But we did form from something, cause we are here now. And whatever that something was or is, we may find out one day. Cause it directs what we are all doing on a daily basic. Maybe not ‘directs’ it but it is where we came from. It’s basically like never knowing your parents or if they ever existed. We probably evolved from monkeys or something, but in all honesty, we will never have any idea if this. It will be guesses and speculation for the next whatever many years. So that is where I think we came from and that is what directs us. Fri, 17 Feb 2012 00:29:51 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2012/02/15/voices-from-the-classroom-107/#IDComment294357930 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2012/02/08/voices-from-the-classroom-99/#IDComment288994927 The question is whether white people seem to avoid race and talking about race. But I don't think that is what happens. I think that white people are willing to talk about it and will talk when necessary, but do not because they do not always bring it up. When bad stuff happens to black people, even if it is there fault, they bring up the race card all the time. Personally I see the world through rose-colored glasses, and would have to say that I am the least racist person that I know. But that’s probably not saying much, since I know kids who are extremely racist (like KKK racist). Of my racist friends not a single one of them has any problem talking about race, although they are usually making comment on how their race is superior. I mean they are normally kidding, and they're really not that bad, I am probably over-exaggerating a bit, but I have definitely seen racism. And to say that white people are afraid to talk about racism is just silly. If white people were afraid to talk about race then how did Barack Obama ever get elected? I mean, come on, over 70 percent of Americans are white and of those citizens they make up a large amount of the voting population. I think this question is stupid to be 100% honest. White people are definitely not afraid to talk about racism, they just do not want to cause there is no reason to. Half the reason racism appears in society in my opinion is that black people continue to bring it up. When they don’t get a job, it’s cause they’re black not cause they did not meet the requirements. I believe that this problem could be easily solved through our nations education system. We need to teach student that in life they will achieve success based upon merit and not by finding loops holes in the system. The American dream is founded on the values that anyone can achieve success through hard work and determination, and I believe that is true. Maybe if everyone worked hard for the things that they wanted in life no would have to use race to boost themselves up in society. And they would not use race as an excuse when they fail or when things do not go their way. White people are not afraid to talk about race. Maybe a few are, but not the majority. We just do not see the reason to talk about it, it’s just not something we need/want to do. But to claim we avoid it is wrong, avoiding make it sound like we are scared like if we talk about it we are going to get in trouble or lose. We do not avoid it but rather talk about it when necessary and not all the time. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:33:27 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2012/02/08/voices-from-the-classroom-99/#IDComment288994927 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2012/01/31/voices-from-the-classroom-93/#IDComment281473585 When Sam first said, just learn Spanish, I basically though whatever you say Sam, I’ll get right on it. But when he started to point out how other languages have moved in and eventually stayed in America, it became interesting. First thing, I will not be learning Spanish. I have taken Spanish classes and I hate it. I absolutely hate it. I can speak English well enough (see, I even used well and not good), but I will not be learning a new language. It would help me in the job market, it would help me make more money, but it simply is not going to happen. I have the same issue that many have, I do not want change. And I think this is a problem seen throughout America. I want English to be our language we can speak everyday, it’s the language I know. I feel weird when people speak other languages around us. I have had the thought that its America, speak English. This may be narrow-minded and some people may not agree, but that’s how I think. But I can also see what Sam said, “just learn it.” There is no reason to fight it, Spanish is going to move in here and it is going to stay, that’s the way it is. I would love to say make English the national language but even if we did, people would still speak Spanish and other languages. America is a melting pot, we have used that to advertise ourselves before. We can not suddenly say speak English. Come here to “melt” together, but speak English. It’s just not feasible. The other thing to look at is illegal immigrants. They are here illegally (as there name suggests) but why do we not get rid of all of them? Because in a way, we have come to rely on them. They work jobs that Americans wouldn’t work, at least at the current wages. So we turn a blind eye and let it continue. This is sort of an issue, but I do not see it going away. I get pissed off when I feel they are all breaking the law, but also have come to realize that we need to accept what it going on and move on. We need them to continue our economy the way it has been built. If we kicked them all out, which we could do, then we would be in quite an interesting situation. The economy would slow down and fall, businesses would crash, and other people would lose their jobs. It could turn into a depression with no one working these jobs. We sort of need them at this point, and no matter how I feel about them being here, I have come to realize this. Thu, 2 Feb 2012 05:14:11 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2012/01/31/voices-from-the-classroom-93/#IDComment281473585 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2012/01/26/voices-from-the-classroom-92/#IDComment276106980 Throughout this time period, I have learned alot about a few different things. But one of the main things I have learned is how quick people are to change. Over the past 40-some years, writers have made a living writing about Joe Paterno, writing about all he has done, about his life, his wins, his losses, his quotes, everything about him. Every year of his life had been analyzed multiple times and these writers praised him like a god-like figure. Than it all went downhill fast with no one even thinking about what was going on. Every story about Sandusky, the true criminal, had to include JoePa. These writers who had praised him for their entire lives now wanted to be the ones to knock the legend over. Was he innocent? No, that would be hard to argue. But he was not the one who should have been ripped apart on tv that was Sandusky. But attaching Paternos name to an article, to a tv station, to any media document immediately increases ratings. And that was all people cared about. When Paterno passed away these writers once again pulled a 180. They were now writing all the positives about his life (as they should at the time) but it was just strange. How can these people go from loving to hate to praising a man. It just did not seem like something that could be done. This period of time also taught me a lot about the Penn State community and the student body. We stood behind a man even when their questions about what he had done because we were able to recognize what he had done in the past. We were not arguing he had not made bad choices, he had even admitted that. But the man had been great to this campus, had given millions of dollars to build buildings, fund scholarships, and help people out. This man may have made a mistake, a mistake I am sure he regretted each and every day, but the man had high character. The student body “rioted” when they fired him, which was a bad choice by kids but was also interesting. We gathered to pray and mourned together. JoePa was more than a coach to most people, he was a public figure like no other, and like Phil Knight of Nike said, he was a hero. And now that he was gone, no one knew who his or her hero would be. The student body backed him fully and I am sure that is something that he truly appreciated. This time period was a learning experience for us all. We did not understand what was going on, no one could. But we were in the moment and with each passing day, we learned more and more about what was going on. And that is something that IO am sure we will never experience like that again. Fri, 27 Jan 2012 18:18:01 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2012/01/26/voices-from-the-classroom-92/#IDComment276106980 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2012/01/17/voices-from-the-classroom-90/#IDComment269215665 Before the lecture, I had never really thought about immigration. I never really had any classes that talked about it. I mean, it was mentioned in history classes when I was younger, but I never thought about it. i read the facts and memorized them, but never thought. Not just immigration with Native Americans, I just had not thought of it in general. Sure I knew about it, I heard about it, and read about it, but never thought. The lecture really opened my eyes to the issues he was talking about, about immigrants, about how we stole there land, about whether we should give it back, about all of this. I always thought of immigration as the people jumping the fence, digging te tunnels, coming in on rafts. that was the view I held. Sure you may call its a bad view, but it was the view that would always come to my head first. But native Americans probably thought of us the same way,. We came in on ships (aka our rafts if I keep that view going). I am mostly irish, I know that my ancestors were a part of this movement in that forced them out. They showed up and basically told the Natives to go away, and many times, just killed them in massive numbers. That is insane to think about, to think of someone just showing up to state college saying its time to leave, get outta here. Totally insane. Like unheard of. It would make no sense and we would laugh at them. But thats what they (or I should say we) did. But yea, we put them on reservations, give them shit living conditions when this is there land. This is where they were before us and now we treat them like crap. the land is not equally there, it is more theres. But even still, when asked if I would give the land back to them, I say no. At this point, I have the feeling I have been here and it is not my issue. Sure this may not be correct, heck, I know its wrong. but its how I feel, I feel I have been heer and I am not giving the land up to anyone. It was there land, I fully acknowldge that, it was there land quite a bit of time ago. They had the land and we took it. but in my mind, I didn't take it. Maybe my ancestors did take it, but I did not. So this may not be the politically correct view, but it is truly how I feel on the issue. But this was a very interesting topic to fully think about. Fri, 20 Jan 2012 03:12:15 +0000 http://www.worldinconversation.org/2012/01/17/voices-from-the-classroom-90/#IDComment269215665