en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/388370 Comments by magall http://theglennbeck912project.com/stand-up-and-lead-2/#IDComment29430681 Ladies and gents since I have been away for awhile, I would like to reiterate my position for any new members. Our country's problems are "our" fault. We have failed to maintenance the machine and now it is breaking down. We are distracted form important things by minor squabbles and misdirection. We have so many things thrown at us at once to divide us into "self" interest groups. We need to have "1" interest. Restoration of our Constitutional Republic via reimplementation of the separation of powers. There is only one way to start this process. 1. Remove all incumbent representatives for the next few elections. This will breakdown the special interest infrastructure. 2. Push for legislation that "no" corporation of any kind may support a candidate in any fashion whatsoever (not even dinner at a CEO's house). And I do mean "any corporation" Non profit, Union, C, S. you name it. The entity cannot vote, therefore it should not be allowed access. This will begin to change the atmosphere at the Federal level. I have another one you might like. How is it your "state rep" is a federal employee? Do away with the entire federal payroll and insurance infrastructure for reps by putting them on the state employment rolls. They would get the state insurance plan and pay scale and should make less than the governor. That's a start and I welcome comment and discussion. Take care Tue, 4 Aug 2009 16:19:49 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/stand-up-and-lead-2/#IDComment29430681 http://theglennbeck912project.com/stand-up-and-lead-2/#IDComment29428555 Hello All, I have been away from the board for quite awhile. I want all to know, I went and visited friends in the states around 4th of July. We had a layover in PA so I got on the internet and was astonished to find next to no 9-12 participation in Philadelphia. Now admittedly the internet is not the end all be all; but a group with about 20 members and "0" events? This is the birthplace of our country! Philadelphia should have the strongest 9-12 participation in the country. I will tell you I was disheartened by this. I expected a great deal more information on local activities. If your in Philadelphia and a 9-12er let me know. I have friends that would like to find you. Tue, 4 Aug 2009 15:51:04 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/stand-up-and-lead-2/#IDComment29428555 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21853191 Not True! I have a poor connection and I can hardly get on. I also do a lot of fieldwork so not always in range of the network. All the comments on all the vent pages were all for the same day over the weekend. Seems pretty lively to me. For me venting is fine, but at some point we need to get moving. If we're out doing, its hard to post. I hope that's what's going on. You want to talk silent? I gave up this fight long ago (25yrs) because no one and I do mean NO ONE would pay attention and I "knew" I was alone. I could hear crickets! Think of the length of time, how long have the most anti-American and corrupt politicians been in office? What did I see then? and How long have I known where this was heading? Its been really cold. I have been proven wrong by Glenn and everyone here! I am not alone! Now that I know this it is time to go back to work. Its starting to warm up for me! Tue, 19 May 2009 23:24:38 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21853191 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21850746 The cool thing is they are both the same tax with a different name! So what they are really saying is "huge tax. no option". That is the creativity right there. They have figured out how to make you believe that the same program is the lesser of two evils and hey still get paid! Brilliant! Now if we could get them to put that same effort into actually paying attention to us, we'd be getting somewhere. Tue, 19 May 2009 22:52:41 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21850746 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21850410 Support the states rights movement; then go after the only thing that catches their attention; "money". Your senators and congressmen should be state employees! They are from and work for your state! Why should they get any better pay and benefits than the janitor at your state capitol? Also make it illegal for any politician to be influenced in any way by any corporation. I mean any, no matter how big, no matter how small, unions, non-profits, LLCs, trusts, ANY!! AIG contributed big to candidates Dodd and Obama and look at the helpful legislation they got out of it. This is just the most glaring example, this occurs on all sides. Tue, 19 May 2009 22:45:03 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21850410 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21846487 Frankly this is the position i've taken as well. With so many wonderful utopian, perfect societies the US keeps getting compared to; Canada, France, England, Cuba, why don't all the socia lists just move? Why stay in a country you hate and be miserable when you could easily go to an already long established society that has everything you say you want? Its a win win. No need to compare, just go there! Tue, 19 May 2009 21:32:39 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21846487 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment21845646 Bravo, I have posted this very same thing several times in response to tax reform posts. The Federal income tax was originally started as a "temporary" Govt program to help fund the war effort. then repealed. However our reps started thinking about all the really cool things they could do with this money "like pay themselves". They were so impressed with themselves at how smart they were they kept trying to re-institute, but the Supreme Court struck down their attempts as Unconstitutional. so our reps amended the Constitution (16th amend) to avoid the Constitutional argument and made it permanent. Do you see how long this has been going on? We're talking about early 1900's here. You are the first person, outside of myself that I have met with this same view. If we can get more people on this wagon, we might have a shot at fixing this. Tue, 19 May 2009 21:16:30 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment21845646 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21679873 Not at all. I feel they are not the same thing and honestly do not understand how they were interchanged. Care to weigh in? Sun, 17 May 2009 02:27:20 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21679873 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21679789 I think this would become a long merry-go-round of semantics. I respect your view. I feel speaking, writing or signing words is speech. Body language or other such actions are expressions and the two are not interchangeable.. Sun, 17 May 2009 02:25:29 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21679789 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21673586 Hi Battleforce, For some reason I cannot see your post to respond, but did recieve a notification. To your question of defining speech. From my side, views and opinions are "expressed" through speech. Speaking alone is not expression. Speaking is a stand alone form of communication. If one says,"I think public nudity is fine" They are expressing an opinion through speech. One can express this same opinion without speech by the physical act of removing one's clothes in the public square; so in my view they are not the same. Sun, 17 May 2009 00:44:30 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21673586 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21672347 Thanks for that. Knowledge is power. Sun, 17 May 2009 00:25:15 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21672347 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21670137 Bravo! Great return for a debate that could go on and on. I respect your opinion and believe you are correct. We are essentially in the same place with only subtilties between us. All the best! Sun, 17 May 2009 00:09:21 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21670137 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21666502 A correct quote, no one can argue. However I suspect the word liberal was defined differently (as below) than it is today. favorable to or in accord with concepts of maximum individual freedom possible favoring or permitting freedom of action, esp. with respect to matters of personal belief. Of or pertaining to representational forms of government rather than aristocracies and monarchies.. Sat, 16 May 2009 23:42:29 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21666502 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21657552 Aside from the subject at hand, I have always wanted to have someone address freedom of "expression" with me. This word has been used to justify many things and is constantly quoted as part of the Constitution's first amendment. It is not there. Freedom of "speech" is the statement and in the context is not applied to "art" Regardless of the legal proceeding that makes people believe that is what the first amendment is for, it is simply not true. I will go far into the darkness to make my point. Many psychopaths have believed what they were doing was art, they have said so! If this is to be believed, then under this re-categorizing of the word speech to expression, their acts would be covered. Would they not? No insult or judgment intended. I make the point to provoke thought and solicit opinion from bright people. So what do you think? Look forward to your input. Sat, 16 May 2009 22:34:11 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21657552 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21652600 If you owe a man a penny, you are not truly free! Sat, 16 May 2009 20:58:20 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21652600 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21651388 Hmmm, not choosing sides but interesting point. Sat, 16 May 2009 20:24:16 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21651388 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21651157 "Yes, I AM shamelessly patting us on the back!" As you should! Sat, 16 May 2009 20:18:24 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21651157 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21651010 Good response. I understand your position, however I submit the following. I employ myself. if we are honest with ourselves, we all look the other way on a law or two throughout our lives. Its a decision. I did not follow Glenn's idea. I know exactly the reason this site was started. I know the exact day that Glenn went to work to devise something to prove to a man that he was not alone. I was way ahead of this man. I took my multiple hits long ago and knew exactly how he felt. I came here to see if Glenn was right and it appears he was and I feel at home here. There is a song, "Your Going to have to Serve Somebody" this is not necessarily true. But with all things, we must face the consequences of our decisions. I do and I expect of myself to deal with what comes. I choose my path and so do we all. Sat, 16 May 2009 20:14:45 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21651010 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21649670 When I was a boy and heard our National Anthem it would bring tears to my eyes because I knew what it represented. Today when I hear the National Anthem it still brings tears to my eyes but its because that Anthem represents the country I was born to, the country we should be, not the country we're becoming. I will always stand for the National Anthem; it is the least I can do to honor the spirit of those who struggled to found the greatest of all nations and those that have fought to preserve it. I can only hope that my pride and devotion to the country the National Anthem represents will help to restore the Constitutional Republic created by our Founding Fathers. By the way, "Thank You" for your service and sacrifice. Sat, 16 May 2009 19:42:49 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21649670 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21647988 Ooooh! a gem if there ever was one. Answering the last question; I think this is where many of us go astray. I follow no one and I'm not looking for a leader. I live according to my own code and I accept the good and bad that comes with that. I provide my abilities and service to those that are most closely aligned to what I believe is right. If I believe something has gone askew, I give due notice and move on. Some would be pretty judgmental of my view, but I feel the lack of personal involvement has afforded me better objectivity. Sat, 16 May 2009 19:01:03 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21647988