en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/1529645 Comments by logdon http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/08/25/turkey-caucus-should-speak-out-on-anti-semitism-congress/#IDComment708782692 'Your comment must be approved by the site admins before it will appear publicly'. Well goody for you. An adapted form has appeared on the Front Page site with no bother so why the coyness, eh? Tue, 27 Aug 2013 14:03:27 +0000 http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/08/25/turkey-caucus-should-speak-out-on-anti-semitism-congress/#IDComment708782692 http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/08/25/turkey-caucus-should-speak-out-on-anti-semitism-congress/#IDComment708780188 My comment has gone! Tue, 27 Aug 2013 13:58:32 +0000 http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/08/25/turkey-caucus-should-speak-out-on-anti-semitism-congress/#IDComment708780188 http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/08/25/turkey-caucus-should-speak-out-on-anti-semitism-congress/#IDComment708676081 Two things here. Obama and Erdogan The former is attempting to realign US heritage from being a Judeo Christian state based on freewheeling 'fair do' capitalism to an Islamic Judeo Christian state based on a socialistic model. The latter is steamrolling Turkey from its secular base and is turning Turkey into an Islamist fiefdom based on the shariah and with the mere varnish of electoral democracy to fool and mollify his western supporters. The point of mutuality is Islam and it is clear from Obama's lying grandiose claims for this faith and Erdogans steeped in it attitude that this plays a major role. In other words if capitalist secularism worked trash it all, invent a fictitious narrative around Islam, sugar coat it for Americans and use brute force for Turks. That both Erdogan and Obama's plans have suffered a massive set back by the defenestration of Morsi is the surprise. The Muslim Brotherhood dominated trio of a US supported neo caliphate consisting of the US, Egypt and Turkey would have been an Axis of Islam and key to the revival. The end game is global control where Muslims make the rules. They already dominate the UN. The OIC is working alongside Obama's US to criminalise any critisism of Mohammed and indeed the whole faith. Saudi has infiltrated the American education system and Muslim Brotherhood operatives occupy top positions in the administration. That Obama not only approves of all of this but is actively pushing for Islamism in the USA is as clear as it can get. The seed has been set and all was going swimmingly before 20 million Egyptians decided otherwise. Erdogan is frantically pushing Obama to bludgeon Egypt into submission via the release of Morsi but it looks like even the suspension of aid is now being treated with contempt by both the military and the masses. They saw the future and they didn't like it. In similar fashion young aspirant Turks are rejecting this return to the past and only a brutal crackdown has quelled the flame but the embers are still there. In short Obama's massive US power backed by academia, the institutions and a lap dog MSM may work for starry eyed Americans who lap up his bullshit like mannah from heaven but is not translating to the places where they know Islam inside out. Egypt is becoming Obamas bete noir and if Turks decide to replicate Egypt the die is cast. His best laid plans are ironicaly not being resisted by naive Americans but by young Muslim modernists aching for Western style freedom. Incredibly the machination of the roles are being reversed whereby America slides into Islamo Marxism and the two major Muslim states are resisting like crazy. The World has, indeed turned upside down. Our saviours are not to be found on our side anymore, (look at the sell out EU, Cameron and the UN for rock solid evidence) but a massive movement centred in Egypt and Turkey. He now talks again of leaping to Erdogans aid by an attack on Syria and removal of Assad. And guess what? If he thinks that will endear him in the Middle East he's dead wrong. America will be loathed and quite honestly for good reason. They are dying because of his idiot grandiosity. They see him esconced in his White House surrounded by adoring flunkeys and living the life of an emperor whilst they are bombed, decapitated and shot and they, quite rightly don't like it. He expected them to walk quietly into the night of his islamist dreams and they are not playing his game anymore. This is not going to finish soon, he's too steeped in his monomania to give up the machiavellian manouvering and they're now too canny to fall for his lies. When America voted for this young, semi black and pretty much unknown upstart based merely upon a kind of wishy washy racial utopian and sentimental fallacy they unleashed a tyrant. That he got a second term defied all logic but there you go. If Americans cannot arouse from this idiot torpor the USA as we know it is over. Putin and China are rubbing their hands with glee. They've easily outmanouvred him and quite frankly he's a rank amateur who is offering the US on a plate. Once it was clear. Despite its inherent faults America was the good guy. The communist bloc dictatorships were the black hats and Islam was neither here nor there. In ten years havoc has been wreaked and Islam is at its centre. If not for the inherent ineptitude of these scuttling Ali Baber cartoon like Muslims they'd be well on the way. That they're not is a lesson and our leaders are not listening. Tue, 27 Aug 2013 10:35:32 +0000 http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/08/25/turkey-caucus-should-speak-out-on-anti-semitism-congress/#IDComment708676081 http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/08/18/obama-on-egypt-the-clueless-presidency-muslim-brotherhood/#IDComment703370250 Bachman, Gohmert and co know what's going on but a cabal including a high profile McCain walked all over their truth. Of course the MSM for whom Islam is just another religion cried foul and Obama merely sat back and watched as they did his lifting. Obama is MB, he hates Israel as a standard leftist position and has read the ME runes completely wrongly. The term Arabesque didn't come from nowhere and all those curlesques in fact indicate a mind set completely devoid of western logic. We're making this harder than it really is could have been written for them and it would seem that the only constant is hating the Jews. And the rest. That the only way to keep them contained is by force is amplified by the pre-war/post-war comparison. Pre-war, quiet, docile and as orderly as we can expect. Post-war, flexing post colonial muscle, allying with Marxists, using oil as a weapon, riding the surf of western pc and invading our institutions and the UN. The other example of this force is to keep their fifth columns out of our lands. That's the numbers game and Europe has fallen in to its own trap of thinking them as a/ a willing workforce and b/ assimilable. We have ignored both and what was staring us in the face has been distorted by a happy, clappy brigade who's only ambition is to teach the world to sing in perfect harmonee. They mistake a Coke commercial for reality and utopian pipe dreams obtainable if we'd only just get along. Facing this hippy, dippy mindset is a force for whom peace means an entirely different thing. Dar el Islam and Dar el Harb is the not so subtle cue. The same thing applies to the term justice and for them it means only one thing and thats the justice of Allah. When a tiny sliver of land was granted back to the Jews in 1948 it was deemed the Nakba, a catastrophe and completely unacceptable within the heart of the Dar el Islam. Meanwhile they are busily squirelling away into our political spheres and chipping away at the institutions as their God given right. For them democracy is a meaningless concept and a buzzword to get the McCain useful idiots excited. That they were on a roll by this deception has to be the understatement of the century and only by the happy synchronicity of disgruntled Egyptians and a still functioning semi-secular Army have their global ambitions been thwarted. Egypt is a major setback for Islamism and it's MB enablers. We should be ecstatic. That the powers that be, whether a US political establishment or the EU is not has to be a clue that not all is right. Fortunately the reach of these Quislings has been well and truly stymied by an enraged Egypt and for once their middle finger to our leftist machinations is our silver lining. Tue, 20 Aug 2013 09:21:52 +0000 http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/08/18/obama-on-egypt-the-clueless-presidency-muslim-brotherhood/#IDComment703370250 http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/08/16/scandinavia-jews-deserve-terror-not-us/#IDComment701327099 Utoya Island was a left wing version of Hitler Youth camp indoctrination. If I were to reverse the situation and adopt the Scandinavian attitude to Israel, I'd say that they had it coming. Scandinavia, bar some miracle of real objectivity is finished. Lets see how those big drinkers in Oslo and Copenhagen and Stockholm like it when the shariah police come a calling. Give it ten years and it will be some Land of the Midnight Caliphate and those blue eyed blonde beauties will be Muslim meat. From virtually zero conviction, Sweden in now rape capital of the world and like Eloi they dance their Social Democrat jigs seemingly uncaring that the Muslim Morlocks are on a rape wave. And the answer is to bring in more. And more. This is nothing less than a death wish. Fri, 16 Aug 2013 21:37:11 +0000 http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/08/16/scandinavia-jews-deserve-terror-not-us/#IDComment701327099 http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/07/31/the-one-insult-john-mccain-cant-forgive/#IDComment691651780 “Robert Bork’s America,” the bilious speech claimed, would be a place where “blacks would sit at segregated lunch counters.” And Ted Kennedy's would be a place where women are left to die in submerged cars? Extreme? It is fact whilst McCain's racism is fiction. That's the difference. Thu, 1 Aug 2013 08:11:33 +0000 http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/07/31/the-one-insult-john-mccain-cant-forgive/#IDComment691651780 http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/07/31/theres-no-more-time-to-waste-on-iran/#IDComment691646638 blackparrot That is masterly. But it's not only Israeli Jews, it's also the rest of us. Israel is a metaphor and whatever happens there, happens to all of us. I'm not just talking about an Iranian bomb but the whole thing. Going from the deadly to the ridiculous, last week, here in Britain a school lunch lady was sacked for offering a piece of ham (as requested) to a Muslim child. The whole palaver indicates a malaise which is infecting all of Europe and increasingly, America too. It's much ado about nothingness indicates how far down that path to submissive dhimmidom we've travelled as Islamic sharia aggression combined with a sactimonious public sector conspires to subject us all to the tender mercies of Islam. Whether its a bit of pork or an Iranian bomb, they've got us on the run. But back to Israel and the jarring gap. Last week Netanyahu set forth the wheels for Palestinian prisoner release. Suddenly 'no preconditions' became preconditions and the Knesset went along. Meanwhile Abbas is doing an Arabic TV interview and when asked, and with not the slightest hint of hesitation, declared that Samaria and Judea would, once in Palestinian hands be judenrein. It's all there in those two nutshells. Thu, 1 Aug 2013 08:02:42 +0000 http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/07/31/theres-no-more-time-to-waste-on-iran/#IDComment691646638 http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/07/18/the-zimmerman-trial-as-rorschach-test/#IDComment682818239 'Moreover, Trayvon Martin not only didn’t deserve to die; he was innocent of any wrongdoing'. Apart from slamming Zimmerman's head against concrete paving, that is. The evidence is there. Broken nose, bruising, deep cuts to the skull. Yep, that's innocence. Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:38:07 +0000 http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/07/18/the-zimmerman-trial-as-rorschach-test/#IDComment682818239 http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/07/18/did-putin-miscalculate-or-did-his-critics/#IDComment682814153 Following the end of the Cold War and demise of communism, we in the West thought that we had won. However there's a new elephant in the room which unlike those pesky reds no one will acknowledge. So we win one, only to open the door to another far more insidious interloper. Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:31:31 +0000 http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/07/18/did-putin-miscalculate-or-did-his-critics/#IDComment682814153 http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/07/18/did-putin-miscalculate-or-did-his-critics/#IDComment682810546 Ask Obama. Fri, 19 Jul 2013 08:25:29 +0000 http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/07/18/did-putin-miscalculate-or-did-his-critics/#IDComment682810546 http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/06/26/the-uks-spiteful-double-standard/#IDComment669742559 When Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf in cahoots with shady property developer Sharif el Gamal hatched the plot of planting a huge symbol of Islamic supremacy in the Burlington coat factory within a block of the Twin Towers, who resisted this monstrous middle finger to 3000 dead? It wasn't Bloomberg. It wasn't Obama. In fact they were all for it and the redoubt was held by a courageous Jewish woman, Pamela Geller. She mobilised resistance. She got the word out. She demolished the smooth taqiyya of Rauf and the hectoring ludicrousness of Gamal and when the lid was lifted on this second assault on this historic property, New Yorkers were horrified at the sheer, brazen effrontery of these two snakes. Islam isn't amongst us to be equal, it is a fifth column backed by Saudi money and Brotherhood man-power and they intend to finish the job thwarted at the Gates of Vienna five hundred years ago. To call rejection of this creation of a second caliphate 'shrill' is pure and simple lazy journalism infected by that insidious underbelly called political correctness. When a Nigerian Muslim kills a serving soldier in our capital in full view and fully admitting the culpability of Islam and our useless Cameron pops up telling us that this has nothing to do with Islam we have every right to anger. One at the Muslim who decided that shariah was his only guidance and two a lying politician who needs to keep the swing votes of Muslims on-side. We are being sold out by our political establishment, our MSM, our police, our security apparatus and every Tom Dick and bloody Harry who jumps on the diversity bandwagon. And from the sit on the fence equivalence shown in this article even those who should know better, don't. Let's face the truth for once, eh? The shrillest people on the planet aren't the Gellers and Spencers, they are the pathetic hair trigger babies who, used to the deference Islam commands or else, whimper its not fair when we follow our traditions including free speech in our very own nations. The arrogance of these people is quite breathtaking. They are telling us what we can and cannot do within our own borders and if some lone voice objects that's shrill? If Ben Cohen needs reality I suggest he goes to Tahrir Square, or Ramalla, or Karachi, or Tehran, or wherever Muslims rule, wearing a kippah., whilst loudly asserting that he's a Jew and see how far he gets. He'd understand shrill alright. That's the difference and if he can't understand that, he has no business telling us what is right and what is wrong. Fri, 28 Jun 2013 08:43:46 +0000 http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/06/26/the-uks-spiteful-double-standard/#IDComment669742559 http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/06/24/gaza-illustrates-palestinian-statehood-hamas-islamic-jiha/#IDComment667584764 Talk is now of annexing Judea and Samaria into Israel. After all shouldn't the spoils of war, in this case 1967 apply equally to those of seventh century Islam? Or is there a term of limitations on such fuddy-duddy constructs? No doubt within Islam when loosing, yes. For the rest of us forget it. Mon, 24 Jun 2013 22:12:24 +0000 http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/06/24/gaza-illustrates-palestinian-statehood-hamas-islamic-jiha/#IDComment667584764 http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/06/13/red-line-crossed-now-what/#IDComment661647442 'pushed our incompetent and egomaniacal President into a folly that well may destroy what is left of his Presidency. ' And that's a bad thing? Sat, 15 Jun 2013 11:11:52 +0000 http://www.commentarymagazine.com/2013/06/13/red-line-crossed-now-what/#IDComment661647442 http://frontpagemag.com/2013/arnold-ahlert/obamas-iraq-surrender-brings-mideast-meltdown/#IDComment654737836 I'm fully aware of that, Einstein. I asked you to define mass. You are obviously out of your depth on this one. Mon, 3 Jun 2013 04:26:33 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/2013/arnold-ahlert/obamas-iraq-surrender-brings-mideast-meltdown/#IDComment654737836 http://frontpagemag.com/2013/arnold-ahlert/obamas-iraq-surrender-brings-mideast-meltdown/#IDComment654496563 You mean the ones Bush 1 abandoned? And define 'mass'. Sun, 2 Jun 2013 17:15:20 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/2013/arnold-ahlert/obamas-iraq-surrender-brings-mideast-meltdown/#IDComment654496563 http://frontpagemag.com/2013/arnold-ahlert/obamas-iraq-surrender-brings-mideast-meltdown/#IDComment654458309 Iraq. No WMD. No AQ. No MB. OK a sabre rattling nut case but that nutcase hated Saudi Wahabbis, hated Iran, hated Hezbollah, and hated Turkey. He tied up all of that lot in either real or verbal combat and as such deflected their aggression towards the west. We meddle in the deep and unfathomable waters of the insanity which is Islam. Sun, 2 Jun 2013 15:30:43 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/2013/arnold-ahlert/obamas-iraq-surrender-brings-mideast-meltdown/#IDComment654458309 http://frontpagemag.com/2013/arnold-ahlert/obamas-iraq-surrender-brings-mideast-meltdown/#IDComment654453066 James, Ignore them. Sun, 2 Jun 2013 15:15:54 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/2013/arnold-ahlert/obamas-iraq-surrender-brings-mideast-meltdown/#IDComment654453066 http://frontpagemag.com/2013/arnold-ahlert/obamas-iraq-surrender-brings-mideast-meltdown/#IDComment654017857 There are a lot of great points in your comment and you may think I'm nit-picking but try paragraphs. Easier to read and they separate the individual threads within the whole. By the way your final sentence nails it. They don't want us there, fine. I'm happy with that. But the quid pro quo is we curtail immigration to suit. And furthermore if Muslims in either the US or Europe decide to go for a nice jaunt to Afghanistan or any other war zone that's where they stay. No if, buts maybes or so called 'rights'. Sat, 1 Jun 2013 19:17:50 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/2013/arnold-ahlert/obamas-iraq-surrender-brings-mideast-meltdown/#IDComment654017857 http://frontpagemag.com/2013/bruce-bawer/brits-arrested-for-internet-comments-after-london-horror/#IDComment653531355 Thankyou for the compliment, immune-to-indoct. Of course you can spread my post, in fact the more the merrier if I can apply such levity to our truly perilous situation. As to your last point I completely agree. Out of this bloody tragedy there's one thing modern technology has provided and that's the camera phone. All on record. No ifs, buts, he said, he didn't say - it's all there and Cameron's idiotic assertion that this was nothing to do with Islam has made him a complete laughing stock. It may sound odd but Anjem Choudary, bete noir of both our establishment and the stealth Islamists has done us an immense favour. Big mouth strikes again, he's 'fessed up and again it's all on record. Now Cameron and co may insist that he is not representative of British Muslims but where are they? Where are the counter demonstrations? Chirp, chirp went the crickets. People are twigging, it may be at a snails pace but it's happening. As to the future? If we are to trust our leaders we are doomed. There has to be a counter to all of this and they're not providing it. Obama''s administration is stuffed with MB. We ennoble our taqiyya spewing dissidents. Europe embraces Eurabia. And on and on. Muslims on the face of it are undoubtedly winning but my opinion is that it will be short lived. It could well get messy but at least the phony war will be over. Fri, 31 May 2013 21:07:20 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/2013/bruce-bawer/brits-arrested-for-internet-comments-after-london-horror/#IDComment653531355 http://frontpagemag.com/2013/bruce-bawer/brits-arrested-for-internet-comments-after-london-horror/#IDComment653350198 And since then? Dredging history a tad? Have you considered the reaction if kuffar hijacked Emirates planes and flew them into the Kaaba, al-Azhar university and Saudi royal palaces? That's a fair equivalent of 9/11. It wouldn't be a gas station in Arizona, it would be the World. And they'd still be at it. Fri, 31 May 2013 13:20:55 +0000 http://frontpagemag.com/2013/bruce-bawer/brits-arrested-for-internet-comments-after-london-horror/#IDComment653350198