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14 years ago @ World In Conversation - Voices From The Classroom · 0 replies · +1 points
14 years ago @ World In Conversation - Voices From The Classroom · 0 replies · +1 points
Recently I have been thinking a lot about ethnocentrism as I have been reading books about Vietnam/Cambodia in preparation for my trip there at the end of the semester. It’s been extremely interesting learning about the culture of Vietnam and how the approaches they take to tackle things in their daily lives are very different from the ways that most Westerners, including Americans, tend to handle situations. Most of the examples that the book gave were in terms of business interactions, but even just examining differences in that aspect is very telling. The Vietnamese are a very collectivist society whereas the US and most other Western civilizations are very individualistic. There were lots of stories in the book from Vietnamese individuals who had interacted with Westerners and the Westerners just assumed that that the Vietnamese acted the same as them. Many Westerners just don’t try to learn anything of the Vietnamese culture before heading over and tend to just ignore the customs thinking them as foreign. For example, in Vietnam it is perfectly acceptable for two male individuals to hold hands while walking and it doesn’t mean anything at all while Westerners might see that and believe they are in a relationship which is not the case at all. While this may not exactly be ethnocentrism, I think taking the time to learn about another culture before just dismissing different customs of the people is an important step to stepping out of an ethnocentric mindset.
14 years ago @ World In Conversation - Voices From The Classroom · 0 replies · +1 points
I think that if it were white foreigners interviewed (such as Russians), it would be offensive as well but not to the same degree as with the Asian Students. I don’t think that it would be as offensive because questioning the foreign Russian students would not be playing up any previously existing stereotype as occurred with the Asian students. So while it would be somewhat offensive because the reporters were making fun of their lack of knowledge, they wouldn’t be making fun of their lack of knowledge because of some stereotype such as Asian’s only know school stuff (so really the difference in level of offensiveness is dependent upon the existence of a pre-existing stereotype). But even so, we as viewers are the ones making the leap assuming that the video with the Asian students was made to build up the stereotype, so we are immediately jumping to conclusions that the intent behind the video was mean (which may or may not be true). I think that it was probably done out of bad intentions, but I can’t say that I know that for sure! We don’t actually know the true reason behind why the video was made, so maybe it was just a harmless interview and we are all just seeing something that isn’t there and therefore just continuing the cycle of stereotyping. It’s a possibility, and in that case then we are the ones with some race relations issues (I hope that you are getting this kind of devil’s advocate point that I am trying to make, I don’t think I’m doing a great job of getting across what I’m thinking).
If the situation were reversed and I were over somewhere in Asia, in a country whose language I was somewhat familiar with and two random reporters came up to me asking me about policies, current events or sports or whatever of that country, I know that I would feel extremely self-conscious and embarrassed once I figured out what was going on. In the heat of the moment I would probably do my best to answer the questions, thinking that this was some sort of real interview, but if I later saw a video of my interview on the internet, I know that I would be upset. I would be so mad at the news station for taking advantage of me as they did and I would be extremely embarrassed that I honestly tried to help these reporters out while they were just stringing me along to make me look like an idiot. So, yes I would be offended if I were in an Asian country and taken advantage of in a similar manner to the Asian foreign students in the video (but only if I saw a video on the internet later that made it clear I was being ridiculed).
14 years ago @ World In Conversation - Voices From The Classroom · 0 replies · +1 points
14 years ago @ World In Conversation - Voices From The Classroom · 0 replies · +1 points
14 years ago @ World In Conversation - Voices From The Classroom · 0 replies · +1 points
As I said, maybe my naïveté in this issue is just a result of my stuffy nose or maybe it’s something that I have noticed but never was really aware of because I wasn’t “looking for it” in a sense. I guess from a biological perspective it would make sense that people of different “races” could smell different from each other, since different biological compounds are produced by bodies adapted to different environments. I mean, a lot of oils are produced in a white person’s hair (which as Sam has explained multiple times in class is very different from African hair) while not as many are produced for African hair. This is probably some sort of biological adaptation along the lines of oils repel water, so in a hot climate such as Africa where one needs to keep his/her head cool, it is probably advantageous to produce less oils and thus trap more water in the hair to minimize heat damage. I don’t really have an explanation as to why white people produce more oils and how this is more advantageous to a cooler climate, but I imagine that there must be some evolutionary explanation behind it as well. Also, I know that many dog breeds produce a lot of oils as well (I work at a kennel so I’ve seen/petted enough dogs to notice this firsthand), so the apparent similarity in smells between white people and dogs when wet is probably just a result of similar levels of oil production.
Another possibility to explain why I have never noticed that I smell strange or maybe black/brown people smell strange is the fact that you tend not to notice things that you are accustomed to? I hope that you get what I mean by this. Like, I’ve never realized that I smell like a wet dog because to me I smell like myself, and for me, that smell is representative of how people should smell. If I come across someone else who has a smell different than my own, I notice their smell as different from mine so I say they smell strange while they can follow the same logic and come to the same conclusion about me. To me, I don’t smell, just like a skunk probably doesn’t realize that it is odorous even though all the other animals around can clearly tell. So I guess as a white person, no I never realized that brown/black people think I smell like a wet dog when I get wet. Maybe after my shower tonight I’ll remember to smell myself before I dry off, obviously if a lot of people think it’s true, there is a good chance that there is some basis of truth to the claim. But even though the question asked if white people were aware that black and brown people thought we smelled like wet dogs when wet, I’m sure that there are plenty of black/brown people who were just like me and never noticed that there was a difference in smells in addition to a ton of black/brown people who didn’t realize that many white people think they smell different as well.
14 years ago @ World In Conversation - Voices from the Classroom · 0 replies · +1 points
That being said, I think that we are a long ways away from completely eliminating racial discrimination, if such a goal is even feasible in the first place. I think that one way that businesses/companies could try and reduce the chances of racial discrimination occurring when selecting individuals for jobs is to look at a person’s resume and only their resume. Don’t look at any pictures of the person, don’t even look at their name, just select the best on paper applicants merely by their merit and qualifications and then interview the cream of the crop. I understand that this method obviously isn’t ideal, especially if an preliminary interview is necessary before applying which still presents the opportunity for the employer to see and talk to an applicant, but even still it would be a good step for many businesses.
Change is not something that is going to happen overnight or even in our lifetimes. However, e need to at least begin to plant the seeds to say that we won’t put up with racial discrimination, start a movement so that others after us have something to build on. If no one ever starts a change, there is never going to be any change and the problem is never going to be fixed or addressed. Also, I feel as though most of this discrimination comes from an older generation, although I could be completely wrong in this assumption. So maybe as society as a whole becomes more educated and wealthier, and this generation begins to take over for the older ones, the concept of racial discrimination will begin to attenuate naturally. But for now, it appears that it is extremely prevalent in society (obtaining jobs, obtaining a loan for a house, who goes to prison…) and isn’t going away anytime soon.
To come full circle, it all comes back to education and informing people. Some of the stats we have learned in class have been ridiculous (like the one’s pertaining to black kids going to adult jail at a tremendously higher rate than white children for the same crime) and I would have never expected them, and that’s the problem: I would have never expected them. There is so much injustice in this world and as we’ve learned there is still a lot in our own backyard (although it is markedly better than in the past) and for the most part it seems no one knows about it or at least is choosing to ignore it. If we want to make a change we need to start first by making people aware that there is a blatant problem that needs to be fixed, and once we accomplish that only then can we begin to formulate how to actually bring about that change. And I would say that just by us being in class and learning about this is making a change for the better.
14 years ago @ World In Conversation - Voices from the Classroom · 0 replies · +1 points
14 years ago @ World In Conversation - Voices from the Classroom · 0 replies · +1 points
When he told us about his high-ankle sprain in Equador (which apparently is very painful) and how the shahman healed him through a concoction of herbs and physical therapy, my first thought was how do we really know that he sprained his ankle? Since there was no damage a day later and he made no mention of going to a doctor, there is no scientific documentation that something was wrong with his ankle (I’m not implying that he wasn’t hurt, only that the diagnosis of what was causing the pain could have been incorrect). Perhaps there was a blood clot in his leg and all of the rubbing and the herbal concoction (probably some sort of natural analgesic that is used frequently in the rainforest, a place where many medicines come from) helped to destroy the clot. I don’t know if that is a real possibility, but I just want to point out that there are many other scenarios that can explain the situation rationally without some sort of magic, herbal healing process.
I realized I have ranted on a about how the stories Sam shared impacted me in the moment, but I haven’t really addressed the question proposed in the video. While I can’t say for sure that the Shahman does enter a trance to communicate with plants and animals, I can say that I’m sure some sort of thinking is going on during these “trance events”. I think that a lot can be learned through self-reflection and meditation and this deep kind of thinking has been prevalent among many pronounced people throughout history. So I think that there are definitely benefits to meditation as it can clear the mind and help one ponder many questions, but whether meditation can entirely replace a school education I have my doubts. I love nature and I am a biology-ecology major so I know that a lot can be gained simply by going into nature and observing all of the interactions that are going on. I feel as though these shahman have a lot of what I’ll call “natural education”, where they gain knowledge about the environment- its plants, its animals and their roles or uses- simply by constant interactions and essentially growing up dependent on all that is around you. There is no way you can live in a rainforest your entire life and not gain some knowledge about how to survive, what plants work best for treating what injuries (commercial medicine is not available) and other useful information.
I like to engage myself in my education so I think that I have gained a lot and grown in my scientific education by attending classes here. I know that with what I want to do in my life, I need to obtain a college degree and the career I am working towards is not one that could be achieved by applying the shahman style of learning. I need to learn procedure, techniques, processes, what’s being discovered/studied so that I can understand all that it take to be a scientist in this day and age. However, especially since I want to go into ecology, I can appreciate this kind of self-reflection and “natural education” that the Shahman have because I believe that it is beneficial to what I want to do. I think that perhaps a balance of both my school education and a sort of self-education is the best way to go, and that is something that I am working on doing. However, in the end a person should study and learn however they feel is best for themselves and to achieve whatever goals they want to achieve.
I can’t really say right now that I believe or can even try to believe that these Shahman can enter a drug induced trance to travel in some sort of spirit world where plants can talk to them. It’s just too much at this point. All be it, I will freely admit that there is a lot I don’t understand in the world and perhaps this phenomenon that Sam described is just one of those things, but until science or at least myself has verified or experienced what he talks about I can’t really just accept it. But, I will look into this further because I honestly don’t know enough about it at the moment.
14 years ago @ World In Conversation - Voices From The Classroom · 0 replies · +1 points
I started learning Spanish in 8th grade and by 10th/11th grade I was already fluent. I learned Spanish because I wanted to and to be honest because I just reveled in the idea of being able to communicate with even more people than I had been able to before. I also enjoyed learning about Spanish culture and I was fortunate enough to travel to Spain my senior year, an opportunity which gave me ample opportunities to practice my language skills in a real life situation. As for anyone who complains about signs for shops being in both English and Spanish, I really want to know whether or not it really bugs you that much? My opinion is that it doesn’t affect me directly and I am not harmed by their presence so why should I find them offensive. I can understand that they can be a daily reminder of the fact that there are more and more Spanish speakers coming to the US each year (many illegally), but I don’t know at least for me it’s not a problem. If you complain about the signs because they make you think about illegal immigration and you are completely against it because of X, Y and Z, I can understand that. But if you complain about signs being in both Spanish and English because Spanish speakers who live in this country should learn English, then I have a problem with that. I would ask that you think about this question: do you have a problem with the brail signs that are often located in almost every building on campus? While I know this is quite a stretch since those with sight-disabilities are physically incapable of seeing English, still one must realize that not all Spanish speakers living in this country are at an age where they have the time or brain power to try and learn English. Try and put yourself in the shoes of a primarily Spanish speaking person: if you went to a foreign country (whether legally or illegally, because you don’t have to speak English to become a US citizen) to live, wouldn’t you want to have signs in English available to you (assuming English is your first language), or would you rather like to wander around struggling to read the signs for basic things such as how to cook your frozen meal.
I enjoy being able to speak Spanish and I would recommend that others try and learn the language too because it’s a ton of fun, and with the growing Spanish-speaking population within the US there are ample opportunities to practice. Also, I at least get a little personal satisfaction when I can walk down the street and read ALL the signs (as long as they’re in Spanish or English haha). Ultimately, the decision to learn Spanish comes down to an individual and how they think learning Spanish or another language will affect them in the long run. Each decisions has certain consequences (both negative and positive, as most decisions generally do) so it rests with an individual to make the decision and then fully accept whatever consequences entail.
As for declaring English as the official language of the United States, I am completely against it (I talked about this in one of my other blog posts, I think on the migrant worker video). I can’t give super specific reasons, since it’s more of a feeling/concept that I have had for a long time, but I think in general since there was no need to do it in the past I see no need to do it now. We are becoming a more globalized society, and I believe we are approaching a time where it will be considered abnormal to not be fluent in at least 2 languages. The US is a diverse place and making English the national language would only hinder that diversity.