en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/386991 Comments by kckshrugged http://biggovernment.com/jjmnolte/2011/11/23/newt-gingrich-is-right-on-illegal-immigration/#IDComment227618007 You are deflecting - get back to the topic. It sounds like you support Amnesty. Sat, 26 Nov 2011 13:05:49 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/jjmnolte/2011/11/23/newt-gingrich-is-right-on-illegal-immigration/#IDComment227618007 http://biggovernment.com/jjmnolte/2011/11/23/newt-gingrich-is-right-on-illegal-immigration/#IDComment227616502 One question you need to answer - there are 6 billion people in the world - if half are in poverty should we let 3 billion in? The numbers! Americans have no appreciation for the numbers! Too many, too poor, too uneducated and we soon will be too many, too poor and too uneducated if Newt and Amnesty backers get their way. Sat, 26 Nov 2011 13:01:47 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/jjmnolte/2011/11/23/newt-gingrich-is-right-on-illegal-immigration/#IDComment227616502 http://biggovernment.com/jjmnolte/2011/11/23/newt-gingrich-is-right-on-illegal-immigration/#IDComment227614764 Unbecoming - you are right. All the words they use to disguise "amnesty" is their ploy to get foolish Americans to support them. Every time they say comprenhensive immigration reform - we have to say much louder - "amnesty for illegal aliens" and call them on their treachery. And it is treachery - by fostering amnesty they are putting us all at risk - everyone seems to forget the 19 terrorists who brought down the the Twin Towers on 9/11. Sat, 26 Nov 2011 12:56:20 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/jjmnolte/2011/11/23/newt-gingrich-is-right-on-illegal-immigration/#IDComment227614764 http://biggovernment.com/jjmnolte/2011/11/23/newt-gingrich-is-right-on-illegal-immigration/#IDComment227612540 Thank you Ashrak - you are exactly right. Sat, 26 Nov 2011 12:48:00 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/jjmnolte/2011/11/23/newt-gingrich-is-right-on-illegal-immigration/#IDComment227612540 http://biggovernment.com/jjmnolte/2011/11/23/newt-gingrich-is-right-on-illegal-immigration/#IDComment226474267 Cont: Just because John and Newt want cheap labor is no excuse for breaking the law and being granted any benefits. As for your false argument of being humane - you mention not breaking up a family - who says we want to break up any family - on the contrary they should all stay together and self-deport together once employers are not allowed to hire illegal aliens. By trying to make your argument the "humane" argument - you surreptitiously try to take the high ground and anyone else is less than humane. Shame on you. Last thing - if I didn't want to pay my taxes and I was really good at not being caught for years and years and years, but I made a great life for myself and I created and wonderful and otherwise law-abiding family - would the government grant me amnesty because I was better at cheating and stealing than my poor schlub neighbor who just started cheating the government last year. Get real! I would be headed to Federal Prison faster than you can say, "illegal". Go back to the drawing board - your argument if full of leaks and sinking. Thu, 24 Nov 2011 04:18:00 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/jjmnolte/2011/11/23/newt-gingrich-is-right-on-illegal-immigration/#IDComment226474267 http://biggovernment.com/jjmnolte/2011/11/23/newt-gingrich-is-right-on-illegal-immigration/#IDComment226473569 Wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong! I like Newt but he is wrong and John you are dead wrong. What part of illegal and alien do you not understand? Attrition through enforcement is the only sane and legal way to solve this problem. In a nutshell, attrition through enforcement would solve this problem in short order. It entails jailing employers who knowingly hire illegal aliens and also having a mandatory e-verify system for employment (fining employers will not work because they will pass along the cost to us). The second part is a working entry/exit Visa system that tracks people who overstay their Visas. Third - no benefits of any kind for illegal aliens. Fourth - we need to follow the original intent of the 14th amendment and end anchor babies being granted citizenship. Fifth - build the fence once and for all. If these steps were followed - illegal aliens would self-deport and our illegal alien problem would be solved. If Newt wants to be President he will heed my advice and change his tune and support "Attrition through Enforcement". Thu, 24 Nov 2011 04:16:00 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/jjmnolte/2011/11/23/newt-gingrich-is-right-on-illegal-immigration/#IDComment226473569 http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/01/19/wednesday-open-thread-birthday-edition-2/#IDComment122379788 Agreed - we are suppose to be a Republic and when States Rights are being trounced upon - it is the duty of the citizens not to bury their collective heads in the sand. Lee was a Patriot in the truest sense of the word. Wed, 19 Jan 2011 22:57:38 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/publius/2011/01/19/wednesday-open-thread-birthday-edition-2/#IDComment122379788 http://biggovernment.com/amarcus/2011/01/06/bipartisan-bomb-thrower-debbie-wasserman-schultz/#IDComment120117337 Liberalism is a disease - that is how! It is akin to being ignorant of the facts. They are ruled by emotion. Oh, and remember her constituency are the same ones that couldn't poke a hole and knock out a chad. Sat, 8 Jan 2011 01:38:48 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/amarcus/2011/01/06/bipartisan-bomb-thrower-debbie-wasserman-schultz/#IDComment120117337 http://biggovernment.com/amarcus/2011/01/06/bipartisan-bomb-thrower-debbie-wasserman-schultz/#IDComment120117129 Simply a Nancy wannabe without the botox. Sat, 8 Jan 2011 01:36:59 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/amarcus/2011/01/06/bipartisan-bomb-thrower-debbie-wasserman-schultz/#IDComment120117129 http://biggovernment.com/dtrowbridge/2010/11/16/confessions-of-a-libertarian-on-immigration/#IDComment110217583 I respected Hillsdale College until I read your columns on illegal alien immigration. I now know you don't even use logic in your own reasoning. You set up a straw-man argument about rounding up and deporting 12 million illegal aliens and then you go on to call anyone who wants to crack down on illegal behavior collectivists. One thing this discussion points out is that elitists like you are the collectivists. You all want open borders. Well sir - without borders you have no country. Most of the people here who object to you are asking is for enforcement of current laws - we aren't asking for increased bureacracy. By the way the argument you set up about prejudice against Yolanda Garcia or hispanics is another strawman. If our border were with Polish speaking people and those illegal alien Poles were illegally entering our country and ignoring our laws and sponging off the welfare system and we had to have everything written in Polish as well as English on ballots and grocery stores then you bet we would be looking for people with Polish accents as potential illegal aliens. What LIBERALS like you (and you are not a Libertarian) don't understand is simple statistics. If more illegals are hispanic then it stands to reason we would be looking for hispanics as potential illegal aliens. What you suggest is the fiasco we have at airports - because we are too politically correct to screen for Muslims then every one of us has to be inconvenienced. I'm sorry but if you run an immigration system like you suggest then we will end up with a worse system than we have now. Wed, 17 Nov 2010 09:58:36 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/dtrowbridge/2010/11/16/confessions-of-a-libertarian-on-immigration/#IDComment110217583 http://biggovernment.com/dtrowbridge/2010/11/13/immigration-reform-a-challenge-to-big-government-readers/#IDComment109658934 Absolutely - attrition through enforcement is the only solution. I'm glad you mentioned the misinterpretation of the 14th amendment - you hit the nail on the head. Sat, 13 Nov 2010 23:59:52 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/dtrowbridge/2010/11/13/immigration-reform-a-challenge-to-big-government-readers/#IDComment109658934 http://biggovernment.com/dtrowbridge/2010/11/13/immigration-reform-a-challenge-to-big-government-readers/#IDComment109658370 If you are going to challenge us then you better read this because this is the solution. First we don't need new laws. Second, we need to jail employers who knowingly hire illegal aliens - fines are just passed along to consumers. Third, we need to track visas by an exit/entry system. Fourth, no services are to be provided to illegal aliens. Fifth, illegal aliens caught in any criminal activity should be deported immediately - no waiting period. Sixth, all employers need to use e-verify for hiring. Seventh, the 14th amendment has been mischaracterized by the Supreme Court - it does not allow anchor babies, it should be challenged so that we can end anchor babies getting citizenship. (This is why children born to foreign diplomats in the US are not US citizens because they are not subject to this jurisdiction; this is the same for illegal alien anchor babies.) There could be a few more steps but the gist is that if you don't allow illegal aliens to work they will eventually self-deport. This process can be summarized as attrition through enforcement. I don't want to take credit for these ideas because they were invented by Roy Beck at Numbers USA. By the way - I don't advocate deporting 20 million illegal aliens but don't dismiss it either. It could be done - remember they moved the entire city of New Orleans in 4-5 days after Hurricane Katrina. Sat, 13 Nov 2010 23:55:23 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/dtrowbridge/2010/11/13/immigration-reform-a-challenge-to-big-government-readers/#IDComment109658370 http://bigjournalism.com/wjkelly/2010/10/14/william-kelly-on-chicago-reporter-attack-i-was-in-their-way/#IDComment109552633 Good work. This is the main reason why I decided to not ever purchase another newspaper or watch ABC, CBS, NBC, or MSNBC news many years ago. I saw the bias well over 20 years ago and I thought in my own little way that by not giving them my dollars in the form of watching their advertising was the best way to protest their outright bias. As many have done and will continue to do, their viewership will continue to decline and they will become less and less relevant. Sat, 13 Nov 2010 11:46:50 +0000 http://bigjournalism.com/wjkelly/2010/10/14/william-kelly-on-chicago-reporter-attack-i-was-in-their-way/#IDComment109552633 http://biggovernment.com/kolson/2010/09/23/public-schools-have-a-spending-problem/#IDComment100621725 I have been against school spending for a long time. I am glad someone wrote this to shed light on the abuse that is lumped on taxpayers. Most people who are asleep will grumble at their high property taxes but they don't even realize that schools are chewing up 60-80% of property taxes that are levied. We don't need fancy schools with flat screen tvs and expensive computers. Kids only need chalk, paper, pencils, erasers, and text books. Everything else is a waste of taxpayer money. They need to get back to basics. Fri, 24 Sep 2010 01:52:00 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/kolson/2010/09/23/public-schools-have-a-spending-problem/#IDComment100621725 http://912communique.ning.com/page/vent-31#IDComment93444561 I worked for DARPA. I know the govt. works on technology but most of that research is done in the open at universities via grants. But the technology that you suggest may be mature, works and hidden is merely conjecture. You make some very good points but the facts about debt are dead wrong. China owns us and they may want to use economic warfare to injure us. Look at their recent pronouncement that they favor the Euro over Dollars. (I believe that is crazy but nonetheless it was reported). I will do what you suggest and research deeper, I am interested. Mon, 16 Aug 2010 12:35:00 +0000 http://912communique.ning.com/page/vent-31#IDComment93444561 http://912communique.ning.com/page/vent-31#IDComment93395002 loca73 - this government can't even balance a budget - what makes anyone believe they can do what you suggest? The typical government worker is notoriously lazy, entitled and lacks creativity. Even if they could have accomplished any of what you proposed they surely could not keep it a secret. Just contemplate what should be secret - namely military plans, secret bases, timetables for missions . . . almost everything the military does is broadcast to the enemy in the NY Slimes or is now on WikiLeaks. Mon, 16 Aug 2010 03:53:17 +0000 http://912communique.ning.com/page/vent-31#IDComment93395002 http://tv.breitbart.com/naacp-director-claims-tea-parties-are-communists-and-nazis/#IDComment86634602 NAACP is a very racist organization. They always make unsubstantiated charges hoping they will stand. It is an old technique that they use readily. They hope when you repeat a lie often enough it becomes fact. Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:28:27 +0000 http://tv.breitbart.com/naacp-director-claims-tea-parties-are-communists-and-nazis/#IDComment86634602 http://tv.breitbart.com/naacp-director-claims-tea-parties-are-communists-and-nazis/#IDComment86634039 Baloshka - Very funny analysis. Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:22:49 +0000 http://tv.breitbart.com/naacp-director-claims-tea-parties-are-communists-and-nazis/#IDComment86634039 http://912communique.ning.com/page/vent-29#IDComment82823221 Mac - sorry for replying so late but I have been out of town and busy. I just think that genocide is not being applied correctly in this instance. I have traveled into PLA territory (not Gaza) and there was no systemic cleansing of the local populace. As for Nobel credentials - Arafat, Jimmy Carter, Gore and Obama have one prizes. That organization is a joke, she may well be deserving and I will take your word for it because I don't know who she is. But you must agree that many recent winners are anti-semitic in rhetoric and some in deeds. Mon, 28 Jun 2010 22:41:06 +0000 http://912communique.ning.com/page/vent-29#IDComment82823221 http://912communique.ning.com/page/vent-29#IDComment80307542 You are correct on the first count. I have been to Israel and I know first hand that what she thinks is happening is false. Most Israelis and Palestinians want to live in peace, but and this is a big but, their is a faction of Palestinians that in no way want Israel to survive. If that is their starting point (and that is the starting point for Hamas), there will never be peace and I don't blame the Israelis for the intransigence on the part of the Palestinians. Second, I don't believe that our support of Israel with aid means that we are part of the problem because we do support the Palestinians with aid as well. She also believes that Israel is causing genocide and terrorism of the Palestinians. She is entitled to her opinion but she is not entitled to make up facts. Third, we don't know, what she knows about any plots or information of any violence or plans for violence. Fourth, those FBI agents weren't very chilling and if they visited me I would not have been as polite as she was. I think she did everything correct as a citizen and I have no issue with her protest, but I do take issue with her warped and ignorant view. Tue, 15 Jun 2010 21:32:11 +0000 http://912communique.ning.com/page/vent-29#IDComment80307542