en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/763027 Comments by k8emont https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/what-about-people-who-can-only-afford-hard-work__trashed/#IDComment70024407 This is a good idea, but I don't think it would solve anything. The immigrants that would be sent back would probably just come to America illegally again. And there's no efficient way of keeping track of how long someone's been in the country. I think a lot of people would get lost in the paperwork and immigrants would probably not bother to register and still just sneak in illegally. Sat, 24 Apr 2010 00:01:25 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/what-about-people-who-can-only-afford-hard-work__trashed/#IDComment70024407 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/what-about-people-who-can-only-afford-hard-work__trashed/#IDComment70023643 I’m divided on the issue of immigration. Sure it’s right and moral to give everyone a chance at a successful life in America, but it also takes away jobs from me and my family. The main objective of an immigrant is to make money and provide for his or her family, and that’s the same objective that American’s have for their families. Isn’t that the American dream? If we deny everyone the right to immigrate here, it really says something about our government. We criticize Cuba for not letting anyone in and anyone out, but not allowing immigrants into the United States would put us down on their level. Also, not all immigrants come her illegally. I understand why those who come here illegally have to. The government makes it very hard for an immigrant to get into the country, and a lot of the immigrants don’t have the time or the money to do it legally. I can also understand your frustration on competing for a summer job, but I think you need to be a little more open minded about why that’s happening. You can’t just blame it on illegal immigrants, there are a lot of factors. We now have to compete against adults who maybe got laid off, or can’t afford to be retired anymore and need to work a job that would otherwise be mostly filled by people our age. Bottom line is, we would still have trouble finding a summer job even if there weren’t any “his or her illegal immigrants,” what does that even mean? Where I’m from, there’s this part of town that everyone calls ‘little Mexico’ because it is predominantly Mexican immigrants. A lot of them work for the landscaping and lawn care companies and I can honestly say they are probably the hardest working people in my town. A lot of companies hire them because, yea they’ll work cheap but it’s a tough economy and businesses have to get through it no matter what. I’m not saying hiring illegal immigrants is right, but if given the choice between a high schooler who would get paid minimum wage (which I think is $7.25 in Pennsylvania) or an illegal immigrant who you could pay under the table, I’m thinking a lot of people would chose the route that’d save them money. Above all, I would pick the worker I know would work the hardest. And a lot of immigrants feel that they need to work hard to prove themselves, not because they just want to send money back to their families (which probably doesn’t really happen). Also, I think the last thing you wrote about needing to worry about our country first, I just think that’s selfish. Yea, we as human beings tend to look out for ourselves above others but just turning your back on someone who needs help is wrong. Like Sam said in class, treat others the way you would like to be treated. I guess I’m not really divided anymore, I believe the immigration system needs to be revised to make it easier for people to become citizens and work legally. Fri, 23 Apr 2010 23:58:22 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/what-about-people-who-can-only-afford-hard-work__trashed/#IDComment70023643 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/what-about-the-men__trashed/#IDComment68110854 We talked about this issue in my recitation class today. It was funny because my class only has four guys, and two of them are our teaching assistants. But when one of the other girls asked them kind of the same question, a lot of the guys seemed to get uncomfortable. We were talking about what defines American society and somehow it turned in to a discussion about clothes and Sam’s comment about having clothes picked for you and dressing for others. The girl asked our TA if guys were the same way, and if a guy would ever compliment another guy about his clothing. At first, it seemed like all the guys in our class were like ‘hands down no way.’ But after talking about it for a while it became clearer that guys would never compliment another guy, they would only compliment the piece of clothing. For example, instead of saying ‘yo man, that shirt looks good on you,’ it’s more acceptable to say ‘dude, that’s a fresh shirt.’ On the other hand, I think girls are more open to complimenting other girls because we know how good it feels to be complimented and we want to spread that feeling. I don’t want to speak for guys, but personally I think it has more to do with looking masculine and tough. If you compliment someone it’s kind of like revealing a weakness that your jealous, or not jealous but want something you don’t have and they do… My brothers are really funny about this subject. One of them, Brent, is so into his appearance and how other people think he looks. He’ll buy the most expensive pair of vans he can find just to say he own them. But my other brother, Tyler, just rolls out of bed and puts on his lax shorts from practice the night before. Sometimes, when they think they’re alone, Brent will make comments about Tyler’s clothes and say things like ‘why don’t you let me take you shopping,’ or ‘I have the best dickies shirt that would go with those jeans.’ I guess personality plays a big part in it too, because Brent is definitely the more outgoing of the two while Tyler is more reserved and would prefer not to draw attention to himself. I guess from a female’s perspective it doesn’t seem like guys try to conform to society but I can’t think of on guy who would go through the ridicule of his friends to be individual and dress like he wants to dress. So guys definitely conform in some ways, whether it be how his group of friends dress or how his girl friend would want him to dress. Wed, 14 Apr 2010 23:59:19 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/what-about-the-men__trashed/#IDComment68110854 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/this-is-totally-off-the-hook__trashed/#IDComment66313611 I remember reading in ‘Disposable People’ that selling young girls for sex was popular in Thailand, and I’m wondering if that’s the case in Japan too. I think that if what sociologists believe, that media mimics society, is true than the situations depicted in this video game must be more common in Japan. If that’s the case then we don’t really have any jurisdiction to order them to change things, it’s really none of our business. This game isn’t being sold in the United States, although you can download the full game online, so it’s not our problem. But knowing that there are people out there who find this sort of video game fun and entertaining is sickening. I know it’s just an animation but the thought behind the actions is what grosses me out. I wouldn’t like knowing that my boyfriend or my brother enjoyed going home after class and playing ‘rapelay.’ It definitely says a lot about a person. I think all these types of games should be banned, including killing games like Grand Theft Auto. But then the question of war games, ‘Call of Duty’ and ‘Medal of Honor’, should be banned too. It’s an endless circle of what’s considered morally right. Wed, 7 Apr 2010 01:36:47 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/this-is-totally-off-the-hook__trashed/#IDComment66313611 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/this-is-totally-off-the-hook__trashed/#IDComment66313580 I don’t know if gaming in Japan is like America, where there’s an entertainment software rating board (ESRB) that restricts certain things and creates ratings for the games but after the controversy over this game, I bet there will be one developed. What I don’t understand is how this hasn’t been brought to everyone’s attention when it was released in Japan, it had to be posted on youtube and somehow stumbled over to be brought to the attention of CNN. I guess culture in Japan is different, I’m pretty sure that women aren’t seen as equals as we are here in the United States. This game is just a way to say that men still have control over women and women are at their disposal. Wed, 7 Apr 2010 01:36:33 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/this-is-totally-off-the-hook__trashed/#IDComment66313580 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/this-is-totally-off-the-hook__trashed/#IDComment66313524 Wow. I never knew anything like this existed. I definitely think this game crosses the line, they couldn’t even show some of the scenes on CNN because they were so graphic! I don’t think this game will be an “outlet for potential rapists.” It basically is a ‘How To’ on raping girls. But I can’t say I’m surprised. Who knows, in Japan they could be looking at America’s Grand Theft Auto games and be outraged about that. I’ve heard before that in Japan they have sexual graphic novels and comic books depicting girls being raped but this video game takes it to a whole new level! I also remember reading somewhere that the media (video games, television shows, music) reflects society instead of influencing society. So obviously some messed up person knew they could make money off of a game like this and decided to develop it. Wed, 7 Apr 2010 01:36:06 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/this-is-totally-off-the-hook__trashed/#IDComment66313524 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/flip-the-script-for-a-moment__trashed/#IDComment65684837 On the ethnocentrism subject, I think it’s extremely hard to step outside of your shoes and experience the world in someone else’s way. Sure we can travel to other underdeveloped countries to give them aid but living like they do for a summer or a year only gives us insight into their lives for that small amount of time. There is no way for someone to truly understand someone else’s life, that’s why I don’t think guys would understand a girl having her period. And they never will because they’ll never experience it. I think a lot of the people in class got so worked up because they didn’t want to hear about girls having their periods, where I was sitting a lot of girls even cringed. I can’t tell you why talking about periods and boners in our society is considered unacceptable and I don’t want to say ‘that’s just the way it is,’ but really, that’s just the way it is. Sam did a good job of asking us that question and it obviously produced a good response. It got me thinking, and I think it got a lot of other people thinking too. Sat, 3 Apr 2010 06:24:51 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/flip-the-script-for-a-moment__trashed/#IDComment65684837 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/flip-the-script-for-a-moment__trashed/#IDComment65685166 I don’t think people are “truly resistant to thinking about something,” I think people enjoy thinking about ‘deep’ subjects but wouldn’t fess up to it. I, personally, ask myself questions like this once and a while. When something is truly astounding and worth thinking further about, I think people will talk about it. That’s how we get smarter! You can take questioning things too far though. The only example I can think of is in religion. That’s when you’re supposed to have faith, and trust what you are being told. I bet a lot of politicians wish it was like this for them too, but since the beginning of time, if you’re being told something, you have to question ‘why.’ Sam’s class is an hour and a half of asking that question and I believe a lot of people appreciate that. He’s really made me realize that I should be asking more questions and questioning why things are the way they are. Most importantly, not accepting ‘that’s just the way it is’ as an answer. Sat, 3 Apr 2010 02:26:15 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/flip-the-script-for-a-moment__trashed/#IDComment65685166 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/flip-the-script-for-a-moment__trashed/#IDComment65685137 On the ethnocentrism subject, I think it’s extremely hard to step outside of your shoes and experience the world in someone else’s way. Sure we can travel to other underdeveloped countries to give them aid but living like they do for a summer or a year only gives us insight into their lives for that small amount of time. There is no way for someone to truly understand someone else’s life, that’s why I don’t think guys would understand a girl having her period. And they never will because they’ll never experience it. I think a lot of the people in class got so worked up because they didn’t want to hear about girls having their periods, where I was sitting a lot of girls even cringed. I can’t tell you why talking about periods and erections in our society is considered unacceptable and I don’t want to say ‘that’s just the way it is,’ but really, that’s just the way it is. Sam did a good job of asking us that question and it obviously produced a good response. It got me thinking, and I think it got a lot of other people thinking too. Sat, 3 Apr 2010 02:26:01 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/flip-the-script-for-a-moment__trashed/#IDComment65685137 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/flip-the-script-for-a-moment__trashed/#IDComment65684776 I agree that questioning is the best way to learn but there are some questions you just don’t ask. I didn’t get upset about the whole period or “bleeding” comment but I kept thinking of more examples that fall into the same category. Like guys getting an erection for example. That’s something natural that occurs yet guys don’t go around talking about it. Most guys are embarrassed about it just like a lot of girls are embarrassed if their tampons leak and they get a huge spot on the butt of their jeans. I think comparing the race issue to this is a completely separate discussion. I think people didn’t talk about how blacks were oppressed because they knew what they were doing was wrong but didn’t know how to change it. Sat, 3 Apr 2010 02:22:32 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/flip-the-script-for-a-moment__trashed/#IDComment65684776 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/women-and-sports__trashed/#IDComment63547230 Another point we discussed in class is the ability for a woman to motivate a guys’ team. I see no reason why not! If I was a high school football player and this woman was yelling in my face, I’d sure as hell listen. I know I’d be benched if I didn’t listen of show her the respect she deserves. And the idea of players transferring schools because the school has hired a woman coach is ridiculous, these are the times we are living in now and I’m glad that there’s been a change for the better. I love her answer to the question “do you feel like you have to work harder to prove yourself?” She composed herself so well and has such a great attitude about the opportunities she’s been given, it will be interesting to see how her season goes! Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:56:58 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/women-and-sports__trashed/#IDComment63547230 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/women-and-sports__trashed/#IDComment63547208 I also loved reading BWare’s comment. It’s nice to see that a college football player is open to the idea of a woman coach and it’s nice to see that he hopes she succeeds rather than a lot of men who probably hope she fails. This was the first time I’ve watched the video and read the post and I was surprised that she was a pretty black woman. In class, the one girl who did watch the video described her as being more on the butch side but for some reason I still pictured Sandra Bullock’s character from the Blind Side, a very petite blonde-haired woman. Either way, I still think this woman is going to do a fantastic job coaching. Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:56:46 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/women-and-sports__trashed/#IDComment63547208 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/women-and-sports__trashed/#IDComment63547154 We got into a heated debate about this post in my last discussion group, no thanks to one of the TA’s playing devil’s advocate, and it’s still something that has been bothering me. Hopefully my TA wasn’t serious about most of his comments, but I know that there are a lot of people out there who want to see this woman fail. There are a lot of people who believe that women aren’t capable of being a football coach, or a sports reporter or a lot of other jobs that are dominated by males right now. The truth is that women are just as capable and qualified as men to have this job. One of the main arguments in my discussion group was that a woman shouldn’t be a football coach because she’s not as athletic or able to perform the hits that football requires. I think watching that video and seeing those pictures would shut anyone up. I agree with Sam that she can probably make the plays and the hits that are asked of her. Obviously she would be no match against a 6’4’’ 200 pound receiver like Randy Moss but that doesn’t mean she doesn’t have the mental and strategic thinking of a great football coach. Mon, 22 Mar 2010 21:56:18 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/women-and-sports__trashed/#IDComment63547154 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/whats-with-the-theme-parties__trashed/#IDComment59296753 Like a lot of the people above, I disagree with the opinion of the girl that asked the question that was asked. After I watched the video I thought of all the parties I've been to and tried to think of any that did have offensive themes. The only one I came up with is the ever popular Jersey Shore party. But the point of a theme party isn't to honestly make fun of stereotypes or offend anyone. I can see how it could be offensive but I think that anyone who is offended by a Jersey Shore themed party takes themselves too seriously. I don't really understand why the person who asked this question thinks theme parties are geared towards making fun of racial stereotypes. I wish she would of given us an example to consider because I haven't heard of any party themes for racial stereotypes. Honestly, I don't think a lot of people would consider going to a party if that was the theme. I have been to theme parties and I think they're a lot of fun because it's exciting to see what costume everyone comes up with. Most theme parties that I've heard of go along with holidays; like the ugly christmas sweater party or a halloween party. There are parties where people are predominantly white, or predominantly black or asian but I disagree that there are parties where there are whites 'acting' or 'dressing' like blacks or asians. And it goes the other way too. I don't hear of a lot of parties where blacks 'act' or 'dress' like white people. I don't even know how you would have that find of party because there isn't a clear definition of how blacks or whites or asians dress or act. The only party I've been to with a 'black' theme was a CMT vs BET party but that's a culture. Country culture vs hip hop culture. The hip hop culture is mostly black because that's who created the culture and continue to change it. I feel like it'd be flattering to want to experience that culture. I think that's another reason theme parties are so popular; it's a night when you get to play dress up and not have to worry about looking good... well I guess you still want to look good. Tue, 2 Mar 2010 03:27:20 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/whats-with-the-theme-parties__trashed/#IDComment59296753 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/native-americans-question-four__trashed/#IDComment58720540 Another thing we could do is try to make being a Native American more acceptable in America. There are rarely tv shows or movies featuring Native American peoples and I think if we saw Native Americans in our everyday life we'd be more accepting of them. I think there's a barrier because a lot of Native Americans and their tribes exclude themselves from the regular American ways of life. I'm not saying they should change their beliefs or religious ceremonies but if they moved into neighborhoods and became more integrated in our society they'd be more accepted.It would take a while because it's the same situations that blacks were in during the civil rights time period, there were black neighborhoods and white neighborhoods and there was a clear line of what was acceptable. But because blacks forced whites to recognize how unfairly they were being treated it made it easier to be accepted. Fri, 26 Feb 2010 00:14:46 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/native-americans-question-four__trashed/#IDComment58720540 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/native-americans-question-four__trashed/#IDComment58719787 I agree with a lot of what people have been saying. I think the most important thing to do is educate people. You can't help change a situation if you don't fully understand it yourself. In another video, the girl was talking about how there was a study where a teacher told the students to draw a Native American and none of them knew what she was talking about, then she told them to draw an Indian and the first thing that came to their minds was a person with feathers in their hair and a weapon. But today, Native Americans have grown beyond that image. That's an image of how their culture used to be and I think white culture, black culture and every culture have matured from our great great grandfathers and what's happened in the past. I know Sam isn't trying to blame us for what's happened, he's just stating facts and trying to get us to think about what happened in our pasts. I hate being reminded about how whites treated blacks or how we killed thousands of Native Americans and took their lands but it's something that has to happen to remind us about what's right and wrong. But on the other side of it, it's like reminding every German about the Holocaust when not everyone supported it. We've been looking at the bad side of things when I'm sure there were englishmen who didn't support the mass genocide of Native Americans but didn't know or couldn't do anything to stop what was happening. Fri, 26 Feb 2010 00:07:07 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/native-americans-question-four__trashed/#IDComment58719787 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/lgbt-class-question-three__trashed/#IDComment57560456 I think that this is a really good question! Personally, I’m straight so I obviously I can’t comment on being confused by my sexuality, and I don’t agree that people who are bi-sexual are confused. So, I guess I can’t really answer the question but it was really interesting so I wanted to say something. I agree with the girl who asked that question that if you know what you want you’re not confused. If a person finds himself or herself interested in men and women than they’re not confused. Actually, I think they’re lucky! They have so many more people to choose from!! When Sam was talking about when his wife dies, he would want to be with a man, it kind of freaked me out. Does that mean he’s bi-sexual? His reasoning was because he’s been with his wife so long he doesn’t feel the need to look at other women. But I guess he feels like being able to check out other people is a normal need or want for a human being so he’s fine checking out other men. Isn’t that the same as looking at other women? If a person is bi-sexual and married, the spouse knows that no matter if it’s a man or woman that’s walking by, their partner might be attracted to them. Another point I’d like to make is that you may grow up thinking you’re straight and not realize until much later what you really want. I think this is because, for most people, as you get older you grow more comfortable with yourself and grow to know yourself better. My Dad’s best friend from collage for example, I never knew his real name but my Dad and his friends called him Wooba, he got married and lived happily with his wife for a few years. I guess something happened after their divorce, or maybe this was the reason for their divorce, but he (Wooba) became a woman (Jude). When my Dad talks about her, he always says that he had no idea Wooba was really a woman. There were no indications that Wooba was not comfortable being a man, except for the fact that he had a high voice. The point that I’m trying to make is that Wooba was never gay or bi-sexual, he never actually confided in any of his closest friends that he actually felt like a she. I think after he was married and realized he could never be happy with a woman he realized that was because he was a woman. To my Dad, Wooba is dead and there’s this new person trying to befriend him but he doesn’t know how to give her a chance. That story has always made me think that you don’t even have to be confused with your sexuality to decide on the wrong one. Fri, 19 Feb 2010 02:07:28 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/lgbt-class-question-three__trashed/#IDComment57560456 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/why-is-the-conversation-always-about-black-and-white-people__trashed/#IDComment56439129 I totally agree with this whole topic. We spent the entire class period in one of my discussion groups talking about what defines how blacks are supposed to act and what defines acting white. What was really interesting is when we got into the discussion of nature vs. nurture. I can definitely see supporting points for both cases. If you grow up around people who act a certain way, most likely you will also act that way. The people who break the mold are considered the outsiders and are constantly harassed to join in with the rest of the group. But my cousin, for example, grew up on Cape Cod where there’s a very few amount of black people yet he identifies with the hip-hop culture and “acts” black. That would be an example of the behavior just being in your nature. Also, there is no clear definition of how a black person should act and how a white person should act. I think most blacks are grouped together in the hip-hop culture because that’s the race that dominates that in pop culture. When you’re watching rap videos you see mostly black people because that is the society that created that genre of music and culture. A lot of people follow their lead because they’re the ones coming up with new trends. I think the possible explanation for the reason why we always come back to the topic of black and white is very interesting. It’s obvious that the history between blacks and whites is a huge part in how we interact with one another because I don’t think enough time has passed yet to be completely over it. There are still African Americans who can trace their ancestry back to slavery and that seems to be a major part of their upbringing. If we keep reminding ourselves of the horror and pain that has gone on between our races then we will never forget it, and I think that’s a good thing. We need to remember what we’ve learned from our pasts to help us in the future. People are different and it will always be that way. There is no set norm for humans and that’s what makes life interesting. Sure some people deal with it differently but I believe, for the most part, we've learned from our ancestors and now know that there is no problem being different. The color of our skin shouldn't be the first thing we judge each other on but sadly, a lot of the time it is. I understand why strawberrykiss is so quick to label whites as having bad intentions but that reasoning is something that any race or culture has committed. When she says that whites came and took over America by killing the indigenous people, yes that's true, but it also happens in every other part of the world. Everyone is trying to get ahead or get on top of other people to look out for themselves. It happened in ancient Rome and probably even between tribes in Africa. The bottom line is that the fighting to get on top will never end; who knows, maybe hundreds of years from now the roles will be reversed and whites will be discriminated in the workplace. Fri, 12 Feb 2010 04:04:28 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/why-is-the-conversation-always-about-black-and-white-people__trashed/#IDComment56439129 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/avatar-and-the-white-mans-burden__trashed/#IDComment55236480 I saw Avatar over Christmas break, so there maybe spoilers in this post…, and I thought it was pretty good! I definitely can see where the ‘white messiah’ comes in but I don’t really agree with David Brooks’ column. He says that movies “rest on the assumption that nonwhites need the white messiah to lead their crusades,” but I don’t think that generalization is true a lot of the time. Sure directors love a story about a white guy saving another race from destruction because it makes the white race appear on top, but it’s usually the white guy’s fault that that culture is in danger anyway! In Avatar, the reason the colony is in danger is because of the white men who want to plow over their home to cultivate the natural resources below. In Pocahontas, it’s the same story. The reason John Smith has to save the tribe is because the Englishmen are trying to drive them off the land for their own benefit. So the white messiah isn’t really a messiah at all! In most religions the messiah is regarded as the future king who rules over united tribes. In no way has John Smith or Jake Sully (the protagonist in Avatar) filled the role of a messiah. They themselves created the problem and realize too late that what they signed up for isn’t ethical. I think Jake Sully chose to help the tribe not to lead them but because he can’t have that guilt on his conscious. Avatar reminded me more of how our ancestors pillaged and killed thousands and thousands of Native Americans that were living in America for years before we arrived. In Avatar there were scientists who had been studying the culture and language of the Na’vi (the foreigners living on Pandora… I looked all these names up on the website, I wasn’t that big of a fan to remember all this) and respected them. In most historical cases, Native Americans were seen as savages and there was no attempt to befriend or compromise with them. Brooks describes the character of natives as “spiritual and athletic.” I think that’s kind of harsh. There’s so much more to a race of people than being athletic. I thought that the Na’vi were depicted as extremely intelligent, appreciative and passionate people. That’s something I’d like to be able to say about the American culture. 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