Huh? I had to look up Stanley Kurtz...and I guess your talking about his masterwork "Radical-in-Chief: Barack Obama and the Untold Story of American Socialism" with the big red star on it...

Gee to I have to read this book to continue arguing with you about this article. That's a lot of work when I'm familiar with the contents. I was on FPM at the time and they cover the same ground with the same tactics.

"You're deflecting and insisting that you're not in the same breath. Pathetic."

Yeah dude...we're not discussing and arguing, we're "attacking" and "deflecting", and anyone that doesn't agree with you was sent here by the Marxist overlords for the purposes of mitigating the terrible impact this forum is having on our plans for global domination. I know it's pathetic, but what can I do, I'm a slave to your boogeyman.

I'm looking forward to Kurtz's new tome "The Secret Feelings of Obama" and ten new reasons to hate the President since none of the dire predictions of my last book came to pass"

Please stop stalking me. I'm sorry I called you an old man and said that you smell. I'm sorry that you and Roger speak with the same voice and keep trying to make everything personal instead of staying on topic. I'm sorry that you have to log out and back in to give me more than one thumbs down and most of all, I'm sorry about your penis. I'm not sure what's wrong with it, but something has you seriously backed up. Maybe you're strapped to a chair with your eyes held open and you're forced to troll boards...maybe your a head in a jar that someone had mercy on and set by an networked computer....I don't know. I can't know these things.

But one thing is sure, you can't just post and comment like a normal person. Now you're parroting back things I said about you....that you are actively monitoring and trolling intense debate in an unhealthy way. That's you man and don't forget it. Now try...just try to stay on topic like a responsible reasonable adult...OK cupcake. I hope this is entertaining for you, because I will just ignore your posts from now on unless it has something to do with the subject being discussed. Get a life man, this forum is not about you. No one cares.

So if Iran gets the bomb, it will help Obama get reelected?

Yes, I know anyone who doesn't want to bomb right now is an appeaser and a pussy...I understand that is where you're coming from.

Since RiverFred seemed to think that Obama would be helping himself to let Iran get the bomb...we were talking about whether or not that was true. But thanks for the non-sequitor.

BTW...if you want an example from the past, you don't have to go all the way to WWII, you can look at the Iraq war and all the weapons of mass destruction we found.

What's wrong with yahoo mail? Weak excuse. Anyway, your choice of moniker just screams "lively" debate, doesn't it?

IDK, why do you care. I don't have the email I used to sign up the yahoo account. That makes it difficult to login to the mail. It's the name I use in WarCraft III...sorry if it bothers you...

Look dude, if you don't like me or what I post, don't respond. I post here for amusement and fun and I don't need some prick impugning my motives. Cultic methods and tools don't have to be religious in nature. They also don't have to be very intellectual. I don't think the way you and some others use the word it is descriptive...it's totally a anti-conceptual boogeyman. I'm not trying to offend you or get your goat...

"Just a few of many. I fully expected that your response would be such. Funny that you can laugh off such hate, directed to the right, while bristle at Hussein being called a socialist."

Wait wait wait...I'm not "laughing off the hate"...but I don't care what some idiot says on twitter. I said they were probably fringe and most of that stuff was. But whatever..."the left" is hypocritical...whoever they are...they don't care about this cartoon that they never saw...or something...

Stop giving thumbs down to all my posts. We don't have to converse anymore if you aren't enjoying it.

The companies would have been broken up and sold off. Millions of jobs...

"Naw. That's not how bankruptcy and reorganization works. Yours is a fantasy land where, if the sugar daddy government doesn't swoop in to save a company, it's doomed."

Yes, it might seem like fantasy land because you live here in this alternate universe. I'm not doing research for you this morning....but there was a banking crisis going on too...I'm not sure where you think the money for restructuring was going to come from. Maybe you could check with Mitt Romney who has been faulted from across the spectrum of economists for saying the same thing you say. It's just not realistic. In the height of the crisis, the "government" was the only entity that could step in for the obvious reasons. But here in the bubble, you have an alternate history for anything that might disrupt the belief system.

"Nope. It (destroying insurance companies) is a stated goal of the regime."

Again "regime"...that's cute. Um...I don't think we are going to see additional health care reform if Obama is reelected. The affordable Health Care Act is really going to start taking effect next year and through 2014, so it would be odd to forward anymore legislation on health care. We should just create national health care service like that commie Churchill did in England. I think we should....is destroying insurance companies now my stated goal?

"Creating a marketplace where people pay more and more for less and less is a formula for engendering a desire for rescue from big daddy government."

But insurance is about MORE people paying less for more. The broader the insurance base, the less the premiums have to be. The state of insurance companies relative to the health care industry is unique in the United States where because of the insurance company / health provider hybrids, the price of healthcare has become so great you can't afford it without insurance. If you get bashed in the face and have to go to the emergency room, it will costs thousands of dollars...and if you don't have insurance to cover their weird billing, your screwed. The guy who is sewing your face closed isn't getting the $500/hour the bill might come out to...it's all the crazy hospital and admin costs that get ya. This labyrinth of crap has been created over the years to syphon off money in the form of "profit". Not doctor or nurse or surgeon or specialist's profit, but the profit of the creators of the structure (the insurance corporations). If we are headed to single payer healthcare, then this is the scenic route.

"Heh. Yeh. For an industry that produces "nothing," some people sure do want it around when they want their birth control pills "free."

Yeah you're hilarious. They don't produce anything but paper and woe....but since we can't have a single-payer healthcare system, then insurance companies are necessary because it's too expensive to just pay as you go (thanks to them).