en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/759846 Comments by jholzberg8 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/how-am-i-not-a-racist__trashed/#IDComment70054578 This is a very interesting question. While I think that there is a fine line between what racism is and what is thinking that your race is superior to another, I think it can be very hard to find that line. This guy brings up a good point in asking. What he was saying about how he thinks he has the potential to make more of a difference and leave a bigger imprint on the world, is questionable. I assume he means that in terms of the fact that he comes from a very wealthy Western nation where he has the means to do things such as travel and receive a higher education. While I do think that when given the opportunity such as an education, it gives you the power and potential to make smart decisions such as opening a business or becoming a politician and make a difference in that way. However, I don’t think that being wealthy necessarily correlates with being able to make an impact on the world. Small compassionate deeds such as being there for another person in a time of need as a shoulder to cry on like the inmate was talking about is a small thing that makes a huge difference in the world and there is no money involved. While I think that most people in western nations are inclined to be ethnocentric towards third world nations and think that our society is better than theirs. The way that we have grown up in our society with the United States always playing the international cop as well as the country who helps other countries around the world, regardless of what our motivations have been, it makes people think that our nation is better than others. However, I think you can also look at that and say that our nation has helped others because we had the means and resources to be able to do so. To me being a racist means that you have hatred towards people of another particular race, but I think that there is a difference between hating another race and just looking at another country and acknowledging that they are less fortunate than ours. I don’t see why there is anything wrong with acknowledging that if you aren’t look down on this people in a negative way. Acknowledging that people need your help is the first step towards being able to help these people. To me racism is a more personal hatred, while being ethnocentric is having a feeling of superiority that your culture is better than another. For example, two people can both be ethnocentric thinking that the U.S. is better than any other country, but one can be black and the other can be white and they might be racist against one another. Sat, 24 Apr 2010 01:48:45 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/how-am-i-not-a-racist__trashed/#IDComment70054578 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/letter-from-an-inmate__trashed/#IDComment70050231 I have to be honest, until Sam and Laurie brought up talking to the “lifers” at Rockview, I had never really given thought to people in prison. I am really glad that I had the opportunity to read this letter from a prisoner because it was very eye opening to hear what life is like on the “inside.” I think I would immediately expect many people who are “lifers” to be monsters, horrible people who are locked up for the horrible crimes they have committed. It was really nice to hear the more human side of a prisoner, and while they were capable of committing these crimes, there is a compassionate side to them as well. Sat, 24 Apr 2010 01:32:40 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/letter-from-an-inmate__trashed/#IDComment70050231 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/300000-whats-it-mean-to-us__trashed/#IDComment69848057 Unfortunately, I think that the tragedy in Haiti is a similar situation to September 11th, Hurricane Katrina or even the tsunami a few years back in Thailand. International attention is immediately focused on the devastated area, and the whole world seems to come together to mourn. People try to see what they can send or donate to help at first, but unless they are directly affected, everyone goes back to life as normal. While I understand that the people of Haiti need the help and support of the rest of the world to get back on their feet, but I also think it’s understandable how people who are “unaffected” go on with their lives as usual shortly after a tragedy occurs. Fri, 23 Apr 2010 00:57:56 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/300000-whats-it-mean-to-us__trashed/#IDComment69848057 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/creating-terrorists__trashed/#IDComment68384466 When asked what we would do after reading this article and watching this video, we all want to believe that we are moral, human individuals. It would be easy to say that we would never seek violent revenge on another human life, or better yet, multiple lives. However, I don’t think that this is that simple of a question. As one of the above bloggers noted, we do not deal with war or terrorism on a daily basis. While as Americans, I a New Yorker with both of my parents working in the city on 9/11, we have fall victim to terrorist attacks, this is not something we deal with every single day. We don’t worry about being attacked every time we ride public transportation or every time we walk to the store. So for us it is easy to say the age-old “two wrongs don’t make a right” or look to the terrorists and call them the crazy ones. We have never had to think of how this is perceived in their minds. And while the terrorists who attacked our country on 9/11 did it out of pure hatred for Western society, that is not the motive of every act of terrorism that occurs worldwide. When it comes to the 80-year old man who lost his family to terroristic acts in his community, he took matters into his own hands. We have grown up learning how “two wrongs don’t make a right” and “violence doesn’t solve your problems,” but walk in this man’s shoes for a moment. If previously asked, he would probably have said he would never be a violent person, or would never kill in his lifetime. But this average family patriarch, when he lost everything that mattered to him and that he lived for, acted out of shear anger and hatred to stand up for the ones he loved. While hurting someone else doesn’t solve his problems, the same way a payment of $2000 doesn’t bring his loved ones back; you can almost feel for this man and understand why he became a “crazy old man who took revenge.” Wouldn’t any of us become equally crazed if we lost our loved ones? Wouldn’t we feel as if something bigger had taken over us and forced us to seek revenge? We can’t say. This isn’t the reality that we live with every day, but for many in the Middle East it is. When you have nothing left that seems to matter, all that consumes your thoughts are those you’ve lost. So while we in America throw around the cute sayings that we grew up with to justify behavior and actions, we can sit with this one “Don’t judge a man until you walk a mile in his shoes.” Fri, 16 Apr 2010 19:31:46 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/creating-terrorists__trashed/#IDComment68384466 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/creating-terrorists__trashed/#IDComment68386624 When asked what we would do after reading this article and watching this video, we all want to believe that we are moral, human individuals. It would be easy to say that we would never seek violent revenge on another human life, or better yet, multiple lives. However, I don’t think that this is that simple of a question. As one of the above bloggers noted, we do not deal with war or terrorism on a daily basis. While as Americans, I a New Yorker with both of my parents working in the city on 9/11, we have fall victim to terrorist attacks, this is not something we deal with every single day. We don’t worry about being attacked every time we ride public transportation or every time we walk to the store. So for us it is easy to say the age-old “two wrongs don’t make a right” or look to the terrorists and call them the crazy ones. We have never had to think of how this is perceived in their minds. And while the terrorists who attacked our country on 9/11 did it out of pure hatred for Western society, that is not the motive of every act of terrorism that occurs worldwide. When it comes to the 80-year old man who lost his family to terroristic acts in his community, he took matters into his own hands. We have grown up learning how “two wrongs don’t make a right” and “violence doesn’t solve your problems,” but walk in this man’s shoes for a moment. If previously asked, he would probably have said he would never be a violent person, or would never kill in his lifetime. But this average family patriarch, when he lost everything that mattered to him and that he lived for, acted out of shear anger and hatred to stand up for the ones he loved. While hurting someone else doesn’t solve his problems, the same way a payment of $2000 doesn’t bring his loved ones back; you can almost feel for this man and understand why he became a “crazy old man who took revenge.” Wouldn’t any of us become equally crazed if we lost our loved ones? Wouldn’t we feel as if something bigger had taken over us and forced us to seek revenge? We can’t say. This isn’t the reality that we live with every day, but for many in the Middle East it is. When you have nothing left that seems to matter, all that consumes your thoughts are those you’ve lost. So while we in America throw around the cute sayings that we grew up with to justify behavior and actions, we can sit with this one “Don’t judge a man until you walk a mile in his shoes.” Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:31:46 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/creating-terrorists__trashed/#IDComment68386624 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/the-tyranny-of-radical-muslims__trashed/#IDComment68385349 I won’t try and say that I have never done so or am above this in any way, but Americans really do tend to generalize Muslims based on Osama bin Laden’s actions. Osama bin Laden did something horrible, and has ran away from it for the past 9 years leaving the rest of the world to pick up the pieces. However, generalizing Muslims has only led to further hatred between Americans and Muslims because we assume that everyone is the same. But that is ridiculous. Osama bin Laden is one very radical example of a man who hates our country. Yet there are millions of Muslims living in America who are anti-bin Laden and peace-loving citizens of our country. Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:22:43 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/the-tyranny-of-radical-muslims__trashed/#IDComment68385349 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/creating-terrorists__trashed/#IDComment68384837 When asked what we would do after reading this article and watching this video, we all want to believe that we are moral, human individuals. It would be easy to say that we would never seek violent revenge on another human life, or better yet, multiple lives. However, I don’t think that this is that simple of a question. As one of the above bloggers noted, we do not deal with war or terrorism on a daily basis. While as Americans, I a New Yorker with both of my parents working in the city on 9/11, we have fall victim to terrorist attacks, this is not something we deal with every single day. We don’t worry about being attacked every time we ride public transportation or every time we walk to the store. So for us it is easy to say the age-old “two wrongs don’t make a right” or look to the terrorists and call them the crazy ones. We have never had to think of how this is perceived in their minds. And while the terrorists who attacked our country on 9/11 did it out of pure hatred for Western society, that is not the motive of every act of terrorism that occurs worldwide. When it comes to the 80-year old man who lost his family to terroristic acts in his community, he took matters into his own hands. We have grown up learning how “two wrongs don’t make a right” and “violence doesn’t solve your problems,” but walk in this man’s shoes for a moment. If previously asked, he would probably have said he would never be a violent person, or would never kill in his lifetime. But this average family patriarch, when he lost everything that mattered to him and that he lived for, acted out of shear anger and hatred to stand up for the ones he loved. While hurting someone else doesn’t solve his problems, the same way a payment of $2000 doesn’t bring his loved ones back; you can almost feel for this man and understand why he became a “crazy old man who took revenge.” Wouldn’t any of us become equally crazed if we lost our loved ones? Wouldn’t we feel as if something bigger had taken over us and forced us to seek revenge? We can’t say. This isn’t the reality that we live with every day, but for many in the Middle East it is. When you have nothing left that seems to matter, all that consumes your thoughts are those you’ve lost. So while we in America throw around the cute sayings that we grew up with to justify behavior and actions, we can sit with this one “Don’t judge a man until you walk a mile in his shoes.” Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:18:23 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/creating-terrorists__trashed/#IDComment68384837 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/creating-terrorists__trashed/#IDComment68384501 When asked what we would do after reading this article and watching this video, we all want to believe that we are moral, human individuals. It would be easy to say that we would never seek violent revenge on another human life, or better yet, multiple lives. However, I don’t think that this is that simple of a question. As one of the above bloggers noted, we do not deal with war or terrorism on a daily basis. While as Americans, I a New Yorker with both of my parents working in the city on 9/11, we have fall victim to terrorist attacks, this is not something we deal with every single day. We don’t worry about being attacked every time we ride public transportation or every time we walk to the store. So for us it is easy to say the age-old “two wrongs don’t make a right” or look to the terrorists and call them the crazy ones. We have never had to think of how this is perceived in their minds. And while the terrorists who attacked our country on 9/11 did it out of pure hatred for Western society, that is not the motive of every act of terrorism that occurs worldwide. When it comes to the 80-year old man who lost his family to terroristic acts in his community, he took matters into his own hands. We have grown up learning how “two wrongs don’t make a right” and “violence doesn’t solve your problems,” but walk in this man’s shoes for a moment. If previously asked, he would probably have said he would never be a violent person, or would never kill in his lifetime. But this average family patriarch, when he lost everything that mattered to him and that he lived for, acted out of shear anger and hatred to stand up for the ones he loved. While hurting someone else doesn’t solve his problems, the same way a payment of $2000 doesn’t bring his loved ones back; you can almost feel for this man and understand why he became a “crazy old man who took revenge.” Wouldn’t any of us become equally crazed if we lost our loved ones? Wouldn’t we feel as if something bigger had taken over us and forced us to seek revenge? We can’t say. This isn’t the reality that we live with every day, but for many in the Middle East it is. When you have nothing left that seems to matter, all that consumes your thoughts are those you’ve lost. So while we in America throw around the cute sayings that we grew up with to justify behavior and actions, we can sit with this one “Don’t judge a man until you walk a mile in his shoes.” Fri, 16 Apr 2010 15:15:18 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/creating-terrorists__trashed/#IDComment68384501 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/what-might-be-the-second-step__trashed/#IDComment66926979 I definitely agree. While it seems like such a small thing to do to make a difference, hitting these companies where their wallets are is the best way to catalyze change. If enough consumers make a conscious effort to buy fair trade chocolate, the larger companies will lose profits and eventually have to make a change. This is the same type of situation as when sweat shop issues first came up. As it became an issue that more and more people were aware of, change started to happen and large corporations became more responsible and ethical in the way they do things. Sat, 10 Apr 2010 03:09:12 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/what-might-be-the-second-step__trashed/#IDComment66926979 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/revisioning-the-revisioning-stage__trashed/#IDComment65668949 This is very interesting to me because I grew up in a neighborhood where the majority of people were white and mostly Jewish. This is ironic because Jews are a huge minority in the world, but to me growing up it seems like most people around me were just like myself; white and Jewish. Also, there are many people of Asian or Middle Eastern decent, but VERY few African Americans. However, since coming to college I have become friends with a variety of different types of people with different backgrounds. I am curious how my neighborhood, and even my own family would react if people different from us starting moving in to my town. However, knowing how I’ve approached relationships in college, I don’t think it would bother me. Race and religion have never been factors to me in why I would or wouldn’t pursue friendships with certain people. Sat, 3 Apr 2010 00:26:06 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/revisioning-the-revisioning-stage__trashed/#IDComment65668949 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/what-if-we-got-rid-of-welfare__trashed/#IDComment65666306 I think that many people look down on welfare as a “government handout.” While I think that welfare is completely necessary and has always been, I also think that there is more that the government can do than only throwing money at the problems of those who are less fortunate. For example, I think that the government should help to educate people rather than throw money at them, and teach them about business and management, skills that would help them better than own lives rather than just merely get by. I don’t think however, that welfare is something that should be frowned upon. Many people on welfare work multiple jobs and barely see their own families so that they can provide for them, but just have very unfortunate situations. Sat, 3 Apr 2010 00:16:59 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/what-if-we-got-rid-of-welfare__trashed/#IDComment65666306 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/is-quality-the-question__trashed/#IDComment65664657 I don’t think affirmative action is as much of a problem as some people are making it out to be, in terms of “lowering the quality” of medical treatment, lawyers, etc. When I think of affirmative action in terms of employment, I first thing of stores such as Best Buy or Bed Bath and Beyond where they have quotas or specific numbers of people of different races that they need to hire, or maybe those with disabilities. When I think of education, I think that universities often fill racial quotas in order to have their college seen as a diverse community of higher learning. However, even if an individual of a specific race was only accepted to a certain school because of affirmative action, over someone who may have seemed more deserving, they will only succeed if they can hold their own academically. I think the same rules apply with jobs. If an employee wasn’t holding their own and fulfilling their responsibilities at a job, they would be fired regardless of the reason they were hired, affirmative action or not. I don’t think that affirmative action really applies to jobs such as surgeons, lawyers, etc. because in careers like those, people must pass exams such as the Bar exam or a serious of tests in the medical field in order to become what they are. It’s not as if someone who got accepted to Med school or Law school based on affirmative action would be able to get by and become a doctor or lawyer without having to pass the same exams as anyone else trying to get into their specific profession. I do see how affirmative action levels the playing field, but also see how it can be viewed as unfair because some people might be accepted over those who are more qualified. When it comes to nepotism, I do think it is unfair. However, as someone who is actively looking for jobs, I’m learning the reality of how important it is to not only network, but how much “who you know” really matters. Many companies seem to only look at the resumes of those who are passed on from within the company, so that they stand out from the rest of the stack of potential new hires. With that in mind though, I think it is still unfair regardless of the fact that seems to be how our society works. What is the point of having a resume full of internships and experiences if at the end of the day it’s really who you know that can help you get your foot in the door? I think someone who is more qualified than someone else often gets passed up for a job because someone’s friend or relative needed a job as well. Sat, 3 Apr 2010 00:11:06 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/is-quality-the-question__trashed/#IDComment65664657 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/in-her-own-words__trashed/#IDComment64278687 I honestly wasn't really sure where Sam was coming from either. It is fine that his wife is comfortable to talk freely about it and thinks she should call it what it is, rather than trying to glorify it. However, I also think she is doing this to make a point. I just don't think it matters whether or not people are comfortable talking about; its just one of those things some people are more comfortable with than others. It is the same how not every girl is comfortable talking about guys ejaculating because they view it to be "gross." I think something like a girl getting her period or a guy ejaculating is something that the opposite has a hard time understanding and is grossed out by. I'm just not sure that it's such a big deal. Sat, 27 Mar 2010 01:14:27 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/in-her-own-words__trashed/#IDComment64278687 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/those-damn-dolls__trashed/#IDComment64278063 I completely agree that children should be growing up in a society where they know that they are beautiful whether their skin is black, white, brown, green, yellow or orange. As someone mention in class, Disney definitely is responsible for the image of what little girls see as beautiful. Every little girl likes to think that she is a princess and when they see white Disney princesses, that is what they associate with a beautiful princess. Disney has VERY slowly began to integrate in princesses of other races in movies such as Mulan and The Princess and the Frog. As a white person, this is not something I have ever really given thought to because all of my dolls were white like me. However, it is horrible for a little girl to not want to associate with the doll of her own race because she believes it to be "bad." Sat, 27 Mar 2010 01:07:38 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/those-damn-dolls__trashed/#IDComment64278063 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/flip-the-script-for-a-moment__trashed/#IDComment64276122 Sam brings up ethnocentrism in the same post that he brings up questions about many controversial issues. Sam tells us how he “woke up” when he was twenty years old and how he is a teacher today because of the fact that he never stops asking questions and aspiring to answer them. I think this is very interesting because as a senior who is about to graduate college and “go out into the real world,” I am seriously starting to see how much we all go along with what society tells us when we are teenagers who do not know any better. Living in the United States, we are all too proud living in what is the “most powerful” nation in the world and being citizens of the country which is known as “international policeman” to ever question our government. It is only once we get older that we start to realize our ability to question not only our government, but the world around us. It is only because a brave few have stood up and asked pivotal questions, that societal change has been able to catalyze. Thinking back through our nation’s history, every equal rights movement that has occurred such as the women’s rights movement, civil rights movement, and the current movement for gay rights, only happened because small groups of courageous individuals stood up against the societal norm and our government. In addition to right’s movements, specific instances such as protests against the Vietnam War or the Tea Party as Sam mentioned earlier, would never have occurred if our predecessors had always just gone along with the government. Also, controversial issues such as the morality of abortions would never be discussed or make any progress if we never asked questions. As time goes on, new issues come to the forefront of society and become what we question. Until we separate ourselves intellectually from the ideas and accepted truths that our parents believe, we are just extensions of them. Finally we get to an age where we begin to question what goes on around us, and understand that what our government does to lead us isn’t necessarily what’s best for us. When it comes to Sam’s connection of the taboo of talking about women “getting their periods” or “bleeding” (in Laurie’s case), I don’t think that it relates directly to issues such as race. While I think that most people refrain from discussing both race issues and menstrual periods because it makes them uncomfortable, I think they are two completely different levels of discomfort. The discomfort of talking about race issues is because people would rather say nothing than take the chance of saying something racially offensive to someone of another race. Also, many people feel that they don’t know how someone of another race would prefer to be address and fear being seen as a racist or that they think they are better than someone else because of their skin color. When it comes to a girl getting her period I think that most guys avoid discussing for the main reason of that they don’t necessarily understand it, why it makes girls act the way that it does, and thinks its disgusting. Sat, 27 Mar 2010 00:45:40 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/flip-the-script-for-a-moment__trashed/#IDComment64276122 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/what-happens-to-multiracial-people__trashed/#IDComment63070454 I agree that this is a very interesting point. I would be curious to hear from a multiracial person how they feel about racial issues. I wonder if they feel that they identify more closely with one race and why, or if they feel that they almost don't "'fit in" exactly with either race. No matter how we want to generalize, each and every one of us has a different racial background and in that sense it is really hard to categorize people into lump groups because we really all are different. Not everything is just as simple as black or white when it comes to race. Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:48:35 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/what-happens-to-multiracial-people__trashed/#IDComment63070454 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/does-this-rudeness-thing-cut-both-ways__trashed/#IDComment63069864 In all honesty, until taking this class I never thought of all the stereotypes that colored people think about white privilege. I don't think this is because I'm naive to racial issues, but I guess growing up in a mostly-white suburban area I have not been surrounded by these feelings around me. Of course I understand that as an upper-middle class white girl, I have had many privileges, opportunities and the means to help me achieve success. But I think that most of what I have achieved is because I am a hard-worker who dreams big and doesn't sit around while the world passes me by. I'm not going to say that maybe it hasn't been easier for me than it probably has for many colored people, but it's not like everything is given to me. I work for what I want to achieve and get out of my life. Fri, 19 Mar 2010 23:43:19 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/does-this-rudeness-thing-cut-both-ways__trashed/#IDComment63069864 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/what-to-do-about-white-guilt__trashed/#IDComment63061098 I agree with a lot of what you said. I think it is completely true that we are not free to make our own decisions and form our own thoughts about race issues until we are in an open forum, such as a class, as adults. Growing up, especially in elementary school, race issues are not only not often discussed, but the actually events in history are glorified and made to seem more like a fairy tale than a horrific genocide. This is absolutely the case when it comes to Native Americans in the United States. The story we were taught in elementary school was one where Pilgrims and Indians became friends and grew to learn from one another. These opposing groups shared a Thanksgiving table and co-existed with one another. This is what we were taught as young kids and believed until we got older and learned more and more what the real history of the Native Americans in this country is. However, as the above blogger mentioned, it raises the question: Why do we learn about the wrong doings of whites when it comes to slavery and the civil rights movement, but not when it comes to Native American history? This topic actually makes me think back to the video we watched in class this past week about the white nationalist little girls who have been raised to believe in white supremacy in a very extreme way. When interviewed, their mother said that she raised her girls with her own white nationalist beliefs and so of course that is a huge part of their life. Had she been a devout Christian, her daughters would have followed suit. Her young daughters see nothing wrong with the fact that they only play their music for white crowds and that they believe the Holocaust to be an exaggeration because that is what they have grown up being told. This same idea is also expressed in Laurie Mulvey’s book when she talks about our parents influence on what we grow up knowing. The phrase “ignorance is bliss” really is relevant to these scenarios because whether it is in reference to Native Americans, slavery, civil rights, or in this case the Holocaust, we only know and feel guilty about the things that we have knowledge of and believe to be true. Laurie talks about our “box” that is created as we grow up in terms of race, but the same idea of a “box” can be used to talk about the issue of white guilt. Whites either accept or reject the blame for slavery because it is a well-known topic that we have been learning about since a young age and has constantly been reinforced throughout our education. This is a topic that is part of our “box.” However, in most cases the genocide against Native Americans in our country’s history isn’t taught to us in a truthful manner from a young age and therefore isn’t part of our “box.” We don’t feel the need to accept the blame for what our predecessors did to the Native Americans because it is not something that we are knowledgeable about and know the whole truth about. Fri, 19 Mar 2010 22:48:44 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/what-to-do-about-white-guilt__trashed/#IDComment63061098 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/fired-for-a-scarf__trashed/#IDComment60128842 I have never really thought about it in this way before, but Abercrombie’s policies are very similar to those of Hooter’s. You must look a very specific “all-American” way in order to be considered to work there. A friend of mine worked at Abercrombie for exactly one day in high school, and upon being hired she was given a thick packet of guidelines for how she was expected to look, everything ranging from her hair to nail polish to kinds and colors of make up that she was allowed to wear. I am not at all surprised that someone would not be allowed to wear a head scarf, even for religious reasons because it doesn’t fit with their “look.” Sun, 7 Mar 2010 01:42:06 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/fired-for-a-scarf__trashed/#IDComment60128842 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/are-whites-the-only-people-willing-to-humiliate-themselves__trashed/#IDComment60128088 I agree (as a white person) that nothing that I do is to “prove myself” as a white person. Everything that I do is because I think it is morally correct, or what makes me happy to do. Non-whites, whether it be African-Americans or any other race for that matter, tend to be more conscious of their actions because they feel that they have more to prove to people of other races. I think that because of racial inequality, non-whites always feel like they have something to prove, and being on a reality television show of any kind is NOT the way to do that. Sun, 7 Mar 2010 01:35:05 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/are-whites-the-only-people-willing-to-humiliate-themselves__trashed/#IDComment60128088