en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/369782 Comments by jholcombtx http://bigjournalism.com/sgrammatico/2010/10/24/charge-whitman-fiorina-torched-california-forest-for-sport/#IDComment105988082 I'm sorry. Did the story run in the Nation or the Onion.? Mon, 25 Oct 2010 14:36:35 +0000 http://bigjournalism.com/sgrammatico/2010/10/24/charge-whitman-fiorina-torched-california-forest-for-sport/#IDComment105988082 http://biggovernment.com/publius/2009/10/09/nobel-peace-prize-whiskey-tango/#IDComment37996088 The Foxtrot cannot be emphasized enough. Unbelievable! Fri, 9 Oct 2009 15:25:09 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/publius/2009/10/09/nobel-peace-prize-whiskey-tango/#IDComment37996088 http://bnp.org.uk/2009/08/the-controlled-media-lying-all-over-the-world/#IDComment31652779 As a white American I've come to the realization that the only way western values will survive is if political correctness is discredited and destroyed. Smarter men than I will have to figure out how that is to be accomplished. It may eventually happen naturally but we cannot afford to wait. I feel that there are enough likeminded people of European descent that, if we were to work together, we could affect the kind of change that would preserve our heritage and ensure its continuation for the next several centuries. We must. A grassroots movement has started forming in the States that I hope will one day become the framework for accomplishing such goals. The two major parties consistently flout the will of the electorate, yet the majority of voters continue their loyalty to them. The parties have become nothing more than hosts for parasitic special interest groups which do not have the common good in mind. I'm sorry to stray a bit off topic but I believe it's all related. The media complicity makes it doubly hard to achieve lasting change but we must either find a way or make one. It is a basic natural law the an organism that does not assert itself in the pursuit of its own interests will perish. Assert yourself. Sun, 23 Aug 2009 04:11:24 +0000 http://bnp.org.uk/2009/08/the-controlled-media-lying-all-over-the-world/#IDComment31652779 http://theglennbeck912project.com/stand-up-and-lead-2/#IDComment24079505 I'm sure many of you watched Glenn's show yesterday. I thought he made a very interesting point about not getting caught up in the current news cycle and taking a longer term view of things. I've seen several posts here about Sarah Palin's feud with David Letterman. I, myself, was upset by Dave's comments and the continuing double standard in the MSM regarding like occurrences. However, I think we need to acknowledge these things when they happen then move on. It amazes me how many people are still hung up about whether or no Obama is a legal citizen of the U.S. We'll never get anywhere if we keep the focus on such issues. The chance of getting traction on issues like that is substantially less than marginal. I'm as lost as anyone about how to wake up the rest of the country, but if we're going to reach out it will have to be by appealling to the common sense of others not by getting caught up in fringe or peripheral issues. Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:18:33 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/stand-up-and-lead-2/#IDComment24079505 http://theglennbeck912project.com/stand-up-and-lead-2/#IDComment24077912 It's time to pour into the streets and strike fear into the heart of every politician from the local dogcatcher to the president of the United States. We should do it peacably, but we should also make our frustration as apparent as possible. The Tea Parties are great and I support them 100%. However, there is often a sort of festive air about them. We cannot wait until the mid-term elections in 2010 to take action. We need to make those currently sitting in Washington fear for their political lives and realize that no one is safe from being voted out. The only way to do that is to make our voices heard. We need to tell them plainly and in huge numbers that they act against the will of the people at their peril. Fri, 12 Jun 2009 21:08:36 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/stand-up-and-lead-2/#IDComment24077912 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment20943990 I posted these suggestions earlier under another thread with regards to electing a panel/council, etc.. I did receive some feedback regarding weighted voting. I'd like to get some additional input on this. Conducting the voting through this site will be no easy task. Here is one way that it can be accomplished: We can have candidates post their announcement of candidacy message. The first line of the message should follow a very specific format which we can discuss at a little greater length. It does not need to be complicated but it does need to be easily identifiable at a glance. Any message that does not follow the format would not be considered in the election process. After that line the candidate should include their real name on a single line. The candidate should post a short bio consisting of no more than three lines. After that the candidate should post their opinions on the issues. This is obviously the most important information in making a decision whether or not to support a given candidate. Once the message is posted someone can vote for the candidate simply by replying with the word "yea." Now there is the potential for fraud. Someone could create multiple accounts to vote for themselves etc. New accounts would have a rep of 0. So we could tally all 0 reps at a value of 1 and all other member votes tallied at their actual rep score. Some may argue that this weighting is unfair.I believe it is fair because it gives more active and reputable members a greater voice and recognizes their contributions. So, the candidacy announcements should be posted on a specific day and terminate a few days later. Perhaps they should begin on a Monday and terminate at midnight the Friday of that same week. Any votes received after the deadline will not be counted. There is no way to gauge the volume of voting in advance. We can designate a few people to tally. Posts are sometimes hard to find on this site. Tallying may be a daunting task but voting in an open forum gives all of us the ability to audit the results. This is by no means perfect but considering the tools we have it is one option. Please let me know your thoughts. Thu, 7 May 2009 04:41:26 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment20943990 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment20942834 Erika, I will do everything I can to help provide momentum for your efforts. In regards to electing a panel, I posted some suggestions as a reply to one of Aspade's posts. I will find it and repost here under this thread. Do yourself a favor and ignore nay-saying messages. Those voices of reason do nothing to further our cause. If people choose not to participate we'll just step over them and keep marching. I'm no Little Mary Sunshine by any stretch of the imagination but I believe if just a few of us work together we can build some momentum. It won't be easy but I think a fair amount of dedication and patience will bear us some fruit. I don't expect a significant number of members of this site to sign on to these efforts initially. We have to take this one step at a time and the first step is to provide a basic leadership structure. I've seen the complaints of those who have "tried" to organize on this site and some of them have tried to advise you with respect to what they perceive as the pitfalls inherent in such efforts. Don't be discouraged by their failures. It may be a difficult task, particularly when most of us are here because we are frustrated and seeking direction. I think a lot of people want to take action but are unsure what action they should be taking. That is why some sense of leadership is critical. Again, I will do everything in my power to help build momentum for your efforts and work toward the noble ends which you've set forth in your post. Let's post under this thread as frequently as possible to keep it near the top. Thu, 7 May 2009 04:33:10 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment20942834 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment20899582 Things stil seem pretty fragmented. I think there's a subtle power struggle here among a few factions. There is a need for real leadership to help this movement - for lack of a better word - become a cohesive unit. I think we can work to that end but there needs to be a sufficient number of people who are willing to be led. I am willing to whatever I can but without sufficient numbers it won't make much of a difference. There are factions which are here to promote their own efforts and have no desire to be incorporated into single effort or movement. I'm in and I'll take it as far as I can. Wed, 6 May 2009 18:53:58 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment20899582 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment20888591 I believe it is fair because it gives more active and reputable members a greater voice and recognizes their contributions. So, the candidacy announcements should be posted on a specific day and terminate a few days later. Perhaps they should begin on a Monday and terminate at midnight the Friday of that same week. Any votes received after the deadline will not be counted. There is no way to gauge the volume of voting in advance. We can designate a few people to tally. Posts are sometimes hard to find on this site. Tallying may be a daunting task but voting in an open forum gives all of us the ability to audit the results. This is by no means perfect but considering the tools we have it is one option. Please let me know your thoughts. Wed, 6 May 2009 15:37:20 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment20888591 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment20888558 Conducting the voting through this site will be no easy task. Here is one way that it can be accomplished: We can have candidates post their announcement of candidacy message. The first line of the message should follow a very specific format which we can discuss at a little greater length. It does not need to be complicated but it does not to be easily identifiable at a glance. Any message that does not follow the format would not be considered in the election process. After that line the candidate should include their real name on a single line. The candidate should post a short bio consisting of no more than three lines. After that the candidate should post their opinions on the issues. This is obviously the most important information in making a decision whether or not to support a given candidate. Once the message is posted someone can vote for the candidate simply by replying with the word "yea." Now there is the potential for fraud. Someone could create multiple accounts to vote for themselves etc. New accounts would have a rep of 0. So we could tally all 0 reps at a value of 1 and all other member votes tallied at their actual rep score. Some may argue that this weighting is unfair. Wed, 6 May 2009 15:36:48 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment20888558 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment20167734 I agree wholeheartedly. People need to start meeting in person and organizing informational campaigns. I almost feel like we use the discussions here as a substitute for real action. If we begin to meet in person we will energize this movement. Activity breeds activity. Maybe we're all just looking for a little direction. I'll take on communications. It's hard to work on issues in this forum because of the volume of posts. We tend to get lost in the shuffle. Any ideas? Wed, 29 Apr 2009 16:11:25 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment20167734 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment20049469 At least you would be starting with a clean slate. Undoing the ideology, ritual, and dogma of the two major parties would be a much larger task. I think the point that is being missed about a third party is that if it gained a big enough following it would bend the the two major parties toward that point on the political spectrum. Tue, 28 Apr 2009 03:27:38 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment20049469 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment20048920 Exactly whom or what does "Inclusion" entail? Please give us some specifics. Are you advocating outreach to specific groups, and if so, what concessions would you make to gain their enlistment? Tue, 28 Apr 2009 03:23:21 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment20048920 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment19807703 I went to the TBTRP website and the only social issue addressed was immigration. If the TBTRP is going to stay away from "divisive" issues such as abortion, etc... then they're not really concerned with taking back the republican party. Fri, 24 Apr 2009 13:58:51 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment19807703 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment19779590 It's tough. I talk to people all the time and everyone's so caught up in enjoying the freedoms they have that they aren't protecting them. Eternal vigilance is the price of freedom. Most of us have never put in an honest day on vigil. You can get people to see but it's hard to get them to feel the need to take action. Fri, 24 Apr 2009 04:18:40 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment19779590 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment19708890 I don't know what the answer is. I do know one thing that it isn't; supporting the republican party - at least not yet. The republicans have some serious atoning to do. Right now they are worse than the democrats in that their actions do not reflect the will of their constituents. Those of us who are disgusted by the republicans do ourselves no favors if we back them on nothing more than the fact that they are the lesser of two evils - the line is blurrier now than it has ever been. The problem is that the party apparatus feels that your vote is written in stone. As the base they see us as being blindly loyal. They feel that the only way to expand their constituency is to tilt leftward. I've heard arguments from people like David Brooks and David Frum that because this is 2009 the party needs to change with the times. I don't know about the rest of you but the principles I stand for are timeless. I don't feel the need to extend an olive branch to someone whose principles run counter to mine simply to win an election. If the party is on a mission to be more inclusive it will be more beholden to its new includes than its historical base. Thu, 23 Apr 2009 03:23:36 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment19708890 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment19707622 trying to start a third party is not an exercise in futility. There has never really been a genuine third party movement that was undertaken in earnest. A third party would need to be built from the ground up, it would be a long process, and there is almost no chance of even a strong third party winning the presidency in 2012. That being said, I think that party would be stronger long term than a "revitalized" republican party. The problem with taking back the republican party is that you get into the business of compromise. The party may make a slight shift to the right but to what end. The goal is limited government. Statist republicans are just as bad as statist democrats. If the republicans are going to stay in the business of advocating solutions rooted in government then you can count me out. Frankly, there is nothing they can do to restore my trust. I'd rather lose an election on principle than play the big tent game. There is no room for compromise. Thu, 23 Apr 2009 02:54:12 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=647#IDComment19707622 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1113#IDComment19517044 People like Dan don't want to debate. They only want to snipe. Anyway, there is no point in engaging in a debate with people you are never going to win over regardless of how much logic or how many facts you employ. Maybe we should just ignore Dan and those like him. Try commenting on Huffington Post or Democratic Underground and see how amicable their posters are in replying to you. I think we all need to thicken our skin a little and ignore the ad hominem attacks and baseless charges of racism. If we stay on point and ignore the criticisms which are only designed to shake our confidence we'll be much better off. Tue, 21 Apr 2009 03:13:14 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1113#IDComment19517044 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1113#IDComment19437147 This thread sure took up a lot of time and energy. If we're all approaching things with the principles and values in mind nothing else matters. Once we start discussing how we can be more inclusive and engaging in "identity politics" we're sunk. That's the sort of thing that has conservatives so soured on Republicans. Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:50:39 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1113#IDComment19437147 http://theglennbeck912project.com/tea-parties-2/#IDComment18053318 Man, I was beginning to think I was alone on the costume issue. Does anyone remember seeing Jack Kevorkian dressed as George Washington at his assisted suicide trial? Yeah, I went there. Think about it. Fri, 3 Apr 2009 03:18:01 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/tea-parties-2/#IDComment18053318