en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/759302 Comments by ianmorgan https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/300000-whats-it-mean-to-us__trashed/#IDComment69929770 I think it is easy to distance yourself from situations that you never have to see. Everyday there are bombings in Iraq that kill groups of people, but we don’t look twice at the headline. Meanwhile, there is an explosion in a mine in West Virginia and America stops to help. I’m not saying that this is a bad thing, but it’s just not a prevalent thing. Ultimately, people are concerned with the things that will directly influence them. In the case of the Haiti earthquake, people either don’t realize how it affects them or realize that it really doesn’t affect them. These scenarios rely on people helping because they want to help, not because they need to. Unfortunately, there aren’t that many people that feel that want. Fri, 23 Apr 2010 14:03:47 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/300000-whats-it-mean-to-us__trashed/#IDComment69929770 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/south-park-off-the-hook__trashed/#IDComment69928964 The recent controversy surrounding South Park grows more ridiculous by the day. Once again the beacon for free speech in America, a cartoon that originally featured cut and paste animation, articulates what everyone is thinking. South Park is always pushing the limits of decency and satire, regardless of who the target is; therefore, only the most disconnected groups take serious offense at the show. Now there are fundamentalist Islamic groups calling for the murder of the South Park creators just as we saw a few years ago when the Dutch political cartoon featuring Muhammad spurred outrage. I’m happy that South Park chose to take on this issue again because it truly tests the boundaries of free speech. The most outrageous aspect of this fight is that South Park does this all the time. Almost every season South Park takes on some religious group in a serious, while ironically hilarious way. Furthermore, South Park has challenged fundamentalist Islam before. In a previous episode, the question was whether or not Comedy Central would allow an airing that would incite so many people. Ultimately South Park lost that fight, but not for lack of trying. Even more ridiculous is that prior to that episode, South Park had already shown an image of the prophet Muhammad. Literally, they aired his image in a throw away episode that aired prior to 9/11. In that world context, the episode blew over without incident, even leading to an appearance in the opening credits one entire season by Muhammad. However, in the culture of fear that has popped up around the Iraq and Afghanistan wars, there is little room for jokes. The South Park creators are in a unique position to take on this fight. Their entire careers have been defined by stoking fires and angering public figures by making them look ridiculous in cartoon form. More importantly, South Park achieves something that most satirists do not; a marriage of humor and rationality. The reason that South Park is still on the air is that so many people find it funny. It has been chastised as immature, yet the themes are typically sophisticated and reasonable. Now, after years of poking fun at everyone from Bono to Jesus, South Park is able to honestly say that they have no bias toward Islam. They are not religious nuts trying to stifle the word of Allah, they are just people who recognize irrationality. South Park stands as a major defense of free speech because they continually take on the powers that be through the medium of communication. They have satirized their parent company, Viacom, other celebrities, political figures, religious figures, even dead people. Rarely do the episodes seem in bad taste because rarely are they ill thought out. Fri, 23 Apr 2010 13:56:15 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/south-park-off-the-hook__trashed/#IDComment69928964 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/want-to-learn-chinese__trashed/#IDComment68069127 For years, I have felt that if I am to learn a language, I might as well learn Arabic or Chinese. Both these languages seems to have continued relevance in our world. Unfortunately, I have since realized that language is not my strong point and even Spanish is too hard for me. Nevertheless, it is obvious that traditional languages like Italian or German are on the fall because they are not spoken predominantly in the world marketplace. Just as English is the world language, so is Chinese. It is just another case of economics dictating how we think about and perceive the world. Wed, 14 Apr 2010 19:58:55 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/want-to-learn-chinese__trashed/#IDComment68069127 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/what-about-the-men__trashed/#IDComment68063032 Obviously men are forced to conform to society like every other conscious being. That’s why we don’t see men walking around with pants on their arms and shirts on their legs. Women assume that because they feel compelled to wear make-up and heels to like nice, that men completely disregard the opinions of those around them. How many times do you see guys obsessing about lifting weights? And when was the last time you went to a frat house that was exclusively serving Smirnoff Ice? These are all expectations that men must adhere to in order to fit into society. It’s not just men, or women, or black people, or gay people, it’s everyone. Wed, 14 Apr 2010 19:37:31 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/what-about-the-men__trashed/#IDComment68063032 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/what-are-we-doing-here-really__trashed/#IDComment68060572 It is hard to visualize what the point of race relations is in the short term. There are so many conflicting views and people that the baby steps that we talk about in class seem to be purposeless. After all, Sam does answer 50 percent of questions with the declaration that he is “going to die”, so that is what he is worried about. Unfortunately, this view point does not do much for those of us concerned with living well. Basically, race relations is an incredibly long term endeavor, the benefits of which we will probably not see; however, the promise of race relations is that we are capable of making a change that will drastically improve the quality of life for future generations. In actuality, the betterment of future generations is why we do almost everything in life. We go to school to ensure our own well being, but also to ensure that our children will be looked after, or at least the children of our loved ones. Arthur C. Clarke’s novel Childhood’s End, depicts a world coping with the reality that they are the final generation of people to inhabit earth. The world’s population deals with the situation differently, but in general chaos and disorder ensue. This scenario reminds me that we are truly living for our children. With this in mind, the measures we take to improve the race relations and general equality in our world seem actually to be hopeful goals. In our time we may see some small steps, like civil rights bills being passed, or gay marriage becoming universal; but these are simply ways of changing the consciousness of the world, the effects of which will only be felt later on. In order to achieve different abstract systems of thinking, there needs to be concrete development in reality. Unfortunately, the promise of a better world for our children is typically not the best motivator for action in our time. But one must always remember that without the actions of past generations there would be no progress. In an attempt to rationalize life, progress is typically a goal or motive. Progress is made in small steps, like what we have talked about in class. Ultimately there must be a decision made by individuals. They must decide if they feel that they want to participate in the betterment of our society (meaning the extension of equality and peace as far as it can go) or if they feel that life is not progress based. Many people would and do choose the second option because it is a reasonable conclusion to make. The hope of race relations is that society can put the future before the present. Wed, 14 Apr 2010 19:30:40 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/what-are-we-doing-here-really__trashed/#IDComment68060572 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/i-really-want-to-know-also__trashed/#IDComment66902008 Sam says a lot of stuff that I agree with and every so often he says something with which I completely disagree. But the question is, “Is there anything that has really changed my opinion?” and I’d have to answer “Yes”. Sam’s lecture on LGBT awareness was pretty enlightening. This was somewhat what of an affirmation of my own beliefs, but his viewpoints were unique and really changed how I viewed the entire issue. I think his constant insistence that we do not live in a binary world where one view point is pitted versus another, or there are only a set number of ways to view something resonates significantly with me. Sometimes I feel he’s wrong, but his push for consideration as the route to answers is inspiring. Sat, 10 Apr 2010 00:12:56 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/i-really-want-to-know-also__trashed/#IDComment66902008 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/this-is-totally-off-the-hook__trashed/#IDComment66900140 The interactive game based on rape is a pretty disturbing glimpse into fetish culture. It falls into line with games like Grand Theft Auto and Call of Duty that glamorize violent and degenerative behavior via virtual realities. However, in order to produce a video game of such importance that CNN is compelled to run a special report on it, there must be a market in which to sell the product. As with all media and consumer goods, the public is what drives innovation and new frontiers to be developed. In other words, this game wouldn’t exist if it wasn’t being consumed by a population. Like gangster rap and heavy metal music, video games tend to be representational of the cultures producing and consuming them. This is not to say that Japan is a morally depraved culture; in this age of technological globalization video games are a universally injected drug into the veins of our youth. This is to say that the first world culture could use an examining to realize why rape has become an object of gamer fascination. In situations of controversy and free speech, silencing the accused is never beneficial. Therefore, the call from various groups to ban games featuring rape, either as a byproduct of game play or as a main goal, are misguided and reactionary. I think the gangster rap example is particularly related. Out of catchy hip hop in the late 80’s came a new form of violent, incendiary music that was both controversial and strikingly honest. Rappers sang songs about killing police officers and slapping bitches as if it were culturally acceptable, all to a chorus of critics concerned with the effect the music would have on youth and society. Calls for censorship and bans came in flocks. Indeed, most of the music was reckless, delivering messages that were geared for violence. However, some artists and albums were spot on in their description of life as a poor black person living in poverty. What was accomplished, regardless of the implications, was a picture of a life so desolate and real that it sparked outrage by people not even living it. These were voices that needed to be heard in order to provoke change or at least recognition. Most importantly, many of these rappers were and probably are unaware of the role they play as defenders of free speech. They are most likely just producing the brutal music that attracts listeners. Nonetheless, one cannot pick and choose free speech. It allows society to fully understand life as it is instead of pushing unsavory details underground. A video game glorifying rape has no merit as artistic expression, but it does offer insight into what people are viewing and experiencing. The producers are most likely not “good” people; but they do have the right, the duty, to show the rest of the world how “bad” they are. Fri, 9 Apr 2010 23:59:41 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/this-is-totally-off-the-hook__trashed/#IDComment66900140 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/the-white-minorities__trashed/#IDComment65647151 It seems that the end of the white majority should not seriously affect our lives when it actually happens. In reality, we’re moving toward a color blind world more and more each day, so when white is not the majority, it will not be a major issue. However, humans always seem to find a way to alienate some group of people for one reason or another. Be it religion, or hair color, or cell phone network, humans always have a way to spot differences. I have no doubt that by 2050, there will be some totally new distinction that people will use to disenfranchise other groups. Race, however, will most likely not be the deciding factor. Fri, 2 Apr 2010 23:20:36 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/the-white-minorities__trashed/#IDComment65647151 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/flip-the-script-for-a-moment__trashed/#IDComment65638973 Sam is right when he says that we should never stop questioning. Periods are gross to talk about and it is irrational to not discuss why this is the case. However, loads of things are gross to talk about and we are well aware of why they are taboo in common conversation, but that does not mean that it is evidence for why our culture is covertly unequal. In general, talking about poop while people eat is considered gross. If we analyze this, we don’t find that it is because we live in a world where antibacterialists have disenfranchised fecalists; people simply are uncomfortable talking about turds. The same ideas apply for periods. I’m aware that men do not menstruate, but I’m also aware of what it is. My sense of modesty, which according to modern standards of anthropology is a cultural universal, is what makes me not want to discuss bleeding with people I don’t know. Fri, 2 Apr 2010 22:38:27 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/flip-the-script-for-a-moment__trashed/#IDComment65638973 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/what-if-we-got-rid-of-welfare__trashed/#IDComment65638034 I read somewhere that the general rule of civilization is that you can judge a society based on how the people at the bottom of that society are treated. In a feudal system, obviously the serfs are treated terribly, thus the society is visibly unequal. America, however, has several mechanisms in order that attempt to provide for disenfranchised people. Social Security, Unemployment, and Welfare, among others, are some such institutions. If welfare was discontinued, it would most likely by at the expense of the current stability it provides. Welfare is a decision by the American people to sacrifice is fraction of their income for the betterment of society as a whole. The main concern in terms of Welfare is always that the recipients of the checks will be more inclined to not find steady jobs because of the ease of living off peoples taxes. Sam, however, addressed this deftly in class. A majority of the people living on welfare are children, which in and of itself means that these are people that cannot possibly find work. Furthermore, this also means that a large portion of people on welfare are parents attempting to raise children on meager incomes. Of course there are inevitably people who abuse the system, receiving checks casually with no immediate intention of getting out of welfare payments; however, I posit that this is a slim minority. Many welfare recipients are embarrassed by the status and would prefer almost anything but. These people would likely do anything possible to drop the government assistance and continue living as average citizens. The money received on welfare is not a considerable amount and most rational people would rather live on their own means. I think that this is a classic case of a few bad apples spoiling the system for the majority. Lastly, the people paying for welfare are the tax payers. Tax payer is a bizarre term because it implies that everyone that pays taxes is capable of being grouped together when in reality this is a huge and eclectic mix of the American people. Nevertheless, I think the most Americans would be happy to provide help to those in need if they truly believe that the money is being put to good use. This is evident from the billions of dollars donated to charities every year. Charity is good analogy for Welfare because they are really two ways of saying the same thing. Charity is simply the act of giving to those that you believe are in need of help with no concern for reciprocal action. People are just afraid of making the United States government the mediator in this exchange of money. I can’t say, however, that this is really that irrational of a fear. Fri, 2 Apr 2010 22:31:39 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/what-if-we-got-rid-of-welfare__trashed/#IDComment65638034 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/what-are-all-of-you-thinking-about-asians__trashed/#IDComment63899403 I agree that Asian American relations have been relatively skimmed over throughout this class. Their demographic seems to make up a large portion of the minority population in America, and their history in American is strife with injustice, yet like the Native Americans they are rarely noted. Personally, I think this stems from the world power that many East Asian countries hold. China and Japan are not particularly disenfranchised the way Mexico or the African continent is. As a result, Asian people do not seem to be in need of help or reimbursement to right wrongs of the past. Also, the level of educated Asian Americans seems to be very high, thus their paths to betterment do not seem to be blocked considerably. Wed, 24 Mar 2010 20:18:13 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/what-are-all-of-you-thinking-about-asians__trashed/#IDComment63899403 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/if-men-could-menstruate__trashed/#IDComment63898465 Menstrual cycles are a unique experience to women into which a man has little insight. The awkwardness that ensues from a conversation about periods stems from this fact. The truth is that there is nothing inherently wrong with menstrual cycles; they are just unfamiliar. Some things, however, are taboo for good reason. Menstruation is a personal experience that most women prefer to keep to themselves on account of embarrassment. My opinion is that if women expect men to be comfortable talking about periods, and blood, and all of the gory details that are included, than women need to become comfortable with personal male acts that are rarely talked about. If I can walk up to a woman and unabashedly tell her how many times I jacked off this week, she can tell me how many tampons she has gone through; if not, the deal is off. Wed, 24 Mar 2010 20:09:52 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/if-men-could-menstruate__trashed/#IDComment63898465 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/is-this-just-a-few-bad-apples__trashed/#IDComment63893852 The Tea Party protesters have developed such an incomplete form of revolt. On one hand, their ideals and motives seem just, or at least rational. They oppose the government takeover of health care; maybe this does not fall in line with everyone’s beliefs, but it is in and of itself a relatively harmless opposition. However, the movement is practically destroyed by the inclusion of reactionary methods and themes during the protests. The effect of this is the conservative party is spoken for by a boorish minority with barely concealed racist and homophobic undertones. The distressing thing is that there has not been more of an effort from the wider conservative movement to distance themselves from the Tea Party group. There are times when a movement straddles the edge of protests founded in decency and protests founded in fear. Ironically, I imagine that every single protester at the Tea Party events would declare a hate for “terrorism” outright. Most Americans would. And yet, most Americans would also consider racial slurs and brick throwing to be behavior more aligned with a terrorist organization than a peaceful protest. The Tea Parties are damaging the power they have as reasonable citizens by muddying the waters with fear tactics. Nevertheless, the Tea Parties are still the most vocal group within the conservative movement. Everyday there is a new protest somewhere in the country. This is all fine, protest is the foundation of every development in American history. But the Republican (conservative) party does not want the voice of their group to be that of Sarah Palin and a handful of reactionary bigots. Just as the racist protesters of the civil rights movement forever went down in history as violent and backwards, the people throwing bricks and yelling faggot will similarly fall from grace. The Conservative party should be making more of an effort to distance themselves from the Tea Parties. If nothing else, they should add a dose of reality to the movement by sprinkling it with some more moderate members. As I said, there is nothing inherently wrong with the Tea Party movement. In fact, they have valid points that should be considered within the healthcare debate. Also, I believe in free speech regardless of the content. However, if you believe in free speech, you must also believe in rational response. People attempting to convince officials of their points and concerns cannot expect to be taken seriously when they tote around signs calling for assassinations and spit on politicians as they walk by. There needs to be a legitimate debate with level headed reasoning. Without this, there is bound to either be a disenfranchised group or an intimidation game; in either case, the public does not benefit. Wed, 24 Mar 2010 19:33:03 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/is-this-just-a-few-bad-apples__trashed/#IDComment63893852 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/does-this-rudeness-thing-cut-both-ways__trashed/#IDComment62706131 The goal of this class seems to be the promotion of honest discussions about race. I think the issue brought up in this camera question is really important in terms of actually getting people to divulge what they’re thinking about race. Yet, there is a double standard that seems to imply that white people cannot say politically incorrect things while non-white people have open range on the subject. As a result, there are many issues that white students will not even consider broaching because the reaction would be so adverse. Meanwhile, non-white students can say fairly offensive things about white students and the response is laughter, if any response at all. Personally, it does not make a difference one way or the other if there is a shocked sigh or apathetic silence after one of my questions; nevertheless, it is obvious that this kind of atmosphere is not the best for honest conversation. Sam talks a lot about abandoning political correctness in favor of honesty, but the reality of the situation is that unless you are a sociologist or a coordinator of something like the Race Relations Project, disregarding how your words are taken by others is not so easy. In fact, it is a huge step to take. I do not think the problem stems only from the students. It is proliferated, probably unintentionally, by Sam as well. For example, during the second round of text-response questions, someone posted the word “nigger” on an open ended text. I believe this was the first instance of this and Sam actually stopped the class and addressed the wrongness of this. I agree with Sam on this to an extent; it is an offensive word and I’m sure some students were rightfully perturbed by it. However, it was just another word posted among a slew of equally offensive words (including sexual innuendos about Sam’s wife). While Sam continually claims that political correctness is not to be considered in the class, he felt it necessary to single out this occurrence. By bringing everyone’s attention to the event, he sensationalized it. Essentially, the effect was the same as all of the sighs in class following a white person’s off color question. I risk sounding like an angry white person by saying this, but I believe it is a necessary step in eliminating hypocrisy from the process of this class and race relations in general. If I am not expected to be offended by racial slurs thrown my way by bigots, I have to expect that an equally rational person of a different color is not offended as well. On another note, I have my doubts that the anonymous texting system will ever progress beyond shallow responses and quick joke for cowardly racists, but that’s beside the point. Thu, 18 Mar 2010 02:36:55 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/does-this-rudeness-thing-cut-both-ways__trashed/#IDComment62706131 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/the-world-is-full-of-surprises__trashed/#IDComment62466834 The case of the Lemba is interesting because it is regarded as the “finding” of a lost people. Does this mean that until science was able to back up the claims of the Lemba people, everyone simply assumed they were lying? It seems that this is a similar case to Columbus discovering America despite the fact that there was two continents worth of people already there. The Lemba have obviously been around for hundreds of years, if not thousands of years, and yet we regard them as a found people because a professor studied them for 20 years. Nevertheless, the Lemba do not help this cause be continually referring to themselves as the “special” people. But I guess some harmless ethnocentrism is excusable when your entire population has been apparently “lost” for a thousand years. Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:18:33 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/the-world-is-full-of-surprises__trashed/#IDComment62466834 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/prom-or-no-prom-just-dont-let-the-queer-students-dance-together__trashed/#IDComment62465195 The most surprising aspect of this story is that an entire school board of apparently functional people saw no injustice in banning same sex couples at a prom. Either they figured the girls would fold under pressure or they really are the dumbest school board in America. Obviously this is a violation of these girls’ rights and obviously circulating a memo that explicitly bans same sex couples is going to be cause for national attention. It’s depressing that this comes from a state that has so much experience with civil rights violations and yet they are apparently still miles behind the rest of the country in terms of cultural awareness. Tue, 16 Mar 2010 22:06:06 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/prom-or-no-prom-just-dont-let-the-queer-students-dance-together__trashed/#IDComment62465195 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/a-long-long-way-indeed__trashed/#IDComment59760851 I think it goes without saying that people plucked from one point in history would be astonished by what they find today, but I suppose it is also a good method of gauging progress to frame it in this way. African Americans in today’s society have certainly excelled far more than was even imaginable before the civil war. Beyond the initial shock of discovering electricity and television, I think a slave owner would by astonished by what he would find on MTV or ESPN. More so, however, I think the average slave owner would be more surprised by the level of everyday African American citizens that are thriving in virtually every walk of American life. Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:10:18 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/a-long-long-way-indeed__trashed/#IDComment59760851 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/whats-with-the-theme-parties__trashed/#IDComment59760199 Themed parties seem to be a more universal occurrence rather than one guided by race. In my own experience, themed parties are typically thrown during college and if they have racist undertones, it is the exception and not the majority. True, some parties may call for attendees to wear “gangster” clothes or Native American attire, but I think an overwhelming amount of parties counteract that. Most of the time the purpose of themed parties is simply to allow for party goers to dress as if it was Halloween. Themed parties are certainly not the most enjoyable leisure activity I can imagine, but they are also rarely racist. Thu, 4 Mar 2010 17:04:28 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/whats-with-the-theme-parties__trashed/#IDComment59760199 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/why-is-this-racist-really__trashed/#IDComment59445828 Don Lewis’s idea for an all white basketball league is actually laughable in its simplicity. Not since the days of segregation has there been such a blatant call for a separation of the races. It is tempting to simply write off Lewis’s idea as an obviously racist plot by a backward man; however, the reality of the situation is that Lewis is using a fairly ingenious method to generate significant buzz over a largely insignificant basketball league. There are few other minor league sports organizations that can achieve national headlines even before they start. Lewis is playing the media angle and is even stating that this is the case. By reporting on this, news stations are really just fueling the fire that Lewis wants to create. Lewis lives in Atlanta and is a former boxing promoter. Something tells me that he is not a stranger to race relations or modern explanations for what is acceptable. Yet, he has created a persona and a league that directly conflict with every bit piece of civil rights progress in the last 40 years. Thus, one can see that his motive here is not to establish a league founded on racial inequality, but to simply establish a league with zero costs for advertising. If Lewis was truly planning on creating a legitimate organization that wanted fans to appreciate a different form of basketball he would not have ostracized a large portion of his potential audience. If this league is ever to get off the ground, you can rest assured that there will be a huge protest planned along with thousands of people that will want to be inside the stadium both protesting and generally observing. My guess is that once the league is created, Lewis would gladly allow black players that abide by the “slow play” rule. In fact, once the league is established, allowing black players to play would simply create a new media display that would undoubtedly get covered extensively by the same news station that condemned it. Such is the nature of the media in the United States. Ultimately, I don’t think Lewis’s league will ever succeed, or even come into existence. The social environment in America will not allow it. However, it is interesting to see how easily a controversial subject can immediately garner considerable attention. All Lewis had to suggest was that black people would be excluded and news stations were doing interviews. If the goal of America’s public is really to eliminate racial prejudice, wouldn’t it be beneficial to simply ignore cultural stragglers looking for attention? The answer is yes, but the reality is not yet. These instances continue to grab the media’s attention because they tap into the need for controversy that America yearns. Wed, 3 Mar 2010 00:29:28 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/why-is-this-racist-really__trashed/#IDComment59445828 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/when-do-we-do-or-say-something__trashed/#IDComment58821271 I can sympathize with the person who claimed it was “not his place”. Complacency is often the most damaging thing for a movement, but I think this instance is not quite the same. The video depicted a hidden camera show with people caught off guard in a politically incorrect situation. In hindsight it is easy to say that if I was in the store I would have said something, but in reality this is probably not true. Unless the situation got a violent point, I think most people are just going to mind their own business. The people that did say something should be commended, but those that did not cannot be called out just on this basis. Fri, 26 Feb 2010 16:53:24 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/when-do-we-do-or-say-something__trashed/#IDComment58821271