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6 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - The Brexit negotiation... · 3 replies · +1 points

We need to see some detailed proposals from the government soon about how the Irish border will be handled after Brexit. Some people might reply "This is about respecting the will of the people and the democratic decision taken in the referendum".

OK. However, if there is a no deal Brexit the government will have to deal with all the details of the border, customs and trade. This is the UK not Venezuela. People in the UK will expect answers from the government to all these questions and they will have to be ready to give them. Will members of the government enjoy being in government after a no deal Brexit? They have 13 months left in which to answer this question.

6 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - The Brexit negotiation... · 27 replies · +1 points

Remind me. Did the campaigners for a Leave vote in the referendum say that a trade deal with the EU would be simple to negotiate? Did they say that the Irish border would not be an issue? I don't remember them saying that the talks would collapse but we would be expecting that.

6 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Today's Brexit summit.... · 6 replies · +1 points

The recent shambles at KFC with suspended chicken deliveries, rotting food and closed restaurants gives an insight into what could happen after Brexit and after the transition period. I plan to stock up on essential supplies.

6 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Stephen Booth: A possi... · 3 replies · +1 points

The government will not make any decisions except on a basis of consensus, which will never happen. Without any decisions the default option is a no deal Brexit, which will be disorderly and economically disruptive. MPs and the public have to decide if this is what they will accept before March 29 2019. For the time being most people still believe the government line that it is managing the Brexit process and everything will be fine. At some point this illusion will be shattered.

6 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Peter Thompson: The in... · 0 replies · +1 points

The age of majority could be the same for everything, e.g. 18 or 21, if complete consistency was the main objective but there is little chance that this will happen. There is a move towards reducing the voting age, and this may or may not happen soon. One possible criterion is to consider what persons aged 16 or 17 are capable of doing. They are probably capable of voting, but not of being directors of listed companies. This could be used to justify reducing the voting age while not changing some of the other regulations.

6 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Votes at 16. Handle wi... · 0 replies · +1 points

Young people want to have the vote at 16. Do they also want all the other responsibilities of life, such as the capacity to sign a credit agreement? Surely 16 is too young to stand for Parliament. Perhaps the argument is that 16-17 year olds should be able to participate in the democratic process but should not have the full powers and responsibilities of adults.

6 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Daniel Hannan: Johnson... · 1 reply · +1 points

The government has to organise Brexit as well as negotiate it, and time is very short for this. We need deeds and action from the government but we only got more words yesterday from Boris Johnson.

Meanwhile the weak and divided nature of the May government was shown when the power-sharing talks at Stormont collapsed again yesterday. This government cannot even run Northern Ireland properly.

6 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Why our European neigh... · 1 reply · +1 points

By a "hard Brexit" I mean that we do indeed end FoM and change the other things you mentioned, but also that there will probably be a hard border with the Irish Republic and a minimal trade deal with the EU.

6 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Why our European neigh... · 6 replies · +2 points

It looks to me that the Brexiteers in the cabinet are trying to swing public opinion behind a hard Brexit or no-deal Brexit. This suggests that they are not sure that they have enough support in Parliament for this option, and they are trying to refight the referendum campaign.

I estimate the chances of this working as being:
getting public support for a hard Brexit - maybe
getting public support for a no-deal Brexit - difficult
retaining public support after a no-deal Brexit - very difficult / impossible.

6 years ago @ http://www.conservativ... - Iain Dale: The languag... · 3 replies · +1 points

A couple of days ago the Cabinet subcommittee on Brexit met to discuss the Brexit strategy. There has been no news about this which means that nothing has been decided.

This subcommittee cannot decide between a hard Brexit and a soft Brexit as it is divided. The full Cabinet will also be split and cannot decide. The Prime Minister has not got the authority to decide. The Parliamentary Conservative party and the DUP could decide if they were united, but they are not.

Only Parliament as a whole can decide between a hard Brexit and a soft Brexit , or make any other final decision. We will be waiting a long time for this, possibly until 2019. Until then the government will stay in office and will try to appear to be in charge of the nation's destiny.

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