en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/553677 Comments by eight http://thebrigade.com/2010/08/14/photo-of-the-day-click-here-for-high-res-photo/#IDComment93249825 Right. But war is good and all that. Support our troops dying for some reason. Got it. Both Bush and Obama make me sick. Sun, 15 Aug 2010 06:08:48 +0000 http://thebrigade.com/2010/08/14/photo-of-the-day-click-here-for-high-res-photo/#IDComment93249825 http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/ottawa_county/Can-a-county-require-SSNs-for-marriage#IDComment75005170 Myth. They send US dollars to Mexico, which are then... Absorbed somehow? No. They're exchanged for pesos or whatever and spent wherever US dollars are accepted: the US. Further, illegal immigrants paid nearly 8 billion in income taxes last year. In addition, because property taxes are paid by home owners and passed down to renters-- and illegal immigrants rent-- they pay property taxes. Meaning they pay for the schools. This isn't even to speak of the fact that it's a WILLFUL ECONOMIC TRADE. Remittances are funded through a private willful transaction. If I buy a car from you (I give you money that you want more than the car and you give me a car that I want more than the money) I can do whatever the hell I want with that car. If we're going to start nitpicking what people do with their money (and/or making it a national policy discussion) then let's talk about the billions Americans send to the porn industry; TV & Entertainment industry-- shouldn't we be feeding the poor and all that? We can argue moral excess, we can argue that money's 'wasted' on drugs, we can argue (and we do, unfortunately) that the food we buy doesn't have the right daily percentage of sodium. As if you can spend it better than them. And all that's not to mention the fact that an automatic strawberry-picking machine doesn't make sense in the context of a plethora of cheap labour. Make labour more expensive and it will likely be replaced by technology. The economic reasons to be pissed off about immigration just do not hold water. Nationalistic? Fine. Racist, even? Fine. Just don't pretend that there's a logical base for your position. Wed, 12 May 2010 05:02:34 +0000 http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/ottawa_county/Can-a-county-require-SSNs-for-marriage#IDComment75005170 http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/ottawa_county/Can-a-county-require-SSNs-for-marriage#IDComment74993128 Kinda like how your parents scammed you in by letting you be born on this side of the line. Good show. Wed, 12 May 2010 02:41:19 +0000 http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/ottawa_county/Can-a-county-require-SSNs-for-marriage#IDComment74993128 http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/ottawa_county/Can-a-county-require-SSNs-for-marriage#IDComment74993078 The fact that he recognises that morality and legality are often mistakenly conflated posits that he's a thinker, and has the potential to be a great father. It's hard to know quite what to say, however, about your suggestion that he's a 'horrible father.' The hate that your position breathes is exactly why the media and liberals have such an easy time crying 'racist.' Wed, 12 May 2010 02:40:37 +0000 http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/ottawa_county/Can-a-county-require-SSNs-for-marriage#IDComment74993078 http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/ottawa_county/Can-a-county-require-SSNs-for-marriage#IDComment74992699 Social asset-- my marriage doesn't owe society anything beyond the chance to stabilize my tiny slice of it. Legal contract-- to each other. My wife doesn't need my SSN to 'do business with me' and I doubt that's been a concern for any member of a couple reading this. Sometimes, even Libertarians and (more often) Republicans mistakenly think that more government is the answer. Wed, 12 May 2010 02:36:50 +0000 http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/ottawa_county/Can-a-county-require-SSNs-for-marriage#IDComment74992699 http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/ottawa_county/Can-a-county-require-SSNs-for-marriage#IDComment74992388 Because we're arguing about whether they were born on one side of a line versus the other should allow them to have their marriages recognized. No one has even raised the point that they could plausibly go to any other country, get married, and have a streamlined path to citizenship if they wanted. Reverse racism, something sabian isn't apparently aware of, is unfortunately alive and well. However, if you rephrase your query more semantically, you get '…why it's not racist when Mexicans…' which is obvious: Mexican is not a race. Wed, 12 May 2010 02:33:24 +0000 http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/ottawa_county/Can-a-county-require-SSNs-for-marriage#IDComment74992388 http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/ottawa_county/Can-a-county-require-SSNs-for-marriage#IDComment74990458 Re: Taxes-- taxes are confiscatory. If the mafia robbed you more than it robbed your neighbor, would that be a good reason for forcing your neighbor to move? Assuming you somehow figure out how taxes are moral (one argument would be that the government is ordained by God, though that unfortunately raises a number of other serious problems), it's been stated that illegal immigrants pay arguably only constitutional taxes: apportioned taxes like the sales tax. Further, any work they do *adds* to society; it is an asset. Re: Rights-- You like America. I like America. Let's see how America stands on this issue: "We hold these truths to be self-evident [not granted by the state, but protected from the state] that all men [not just citizens] are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator [again, not their state] with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the pursuit of Happiness." It could be argued that marriage does not fall under 'unalienable Rights,' but last I was concerned, a marriage is a religious tradition that has been sort of corrupted and sucked into law (a good reason for the separation of Church and State), and so I am not convinced. Re: "Become a citizen": How? It is nearly impossible for most to immigrate legally. The entire process, if one even makes it through-- much less one's family-- takes anywhere from 10 to 15 *years*. You're either not married or aren't being true to yourself; how long did you wait for your wife? You think waiting 10-15 years for some bureaucrats to file paperwork is a viable solution to this problem? Wed, 12 May 2010 02:19:07 +0000 http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/ottawa_county/Can-a-county-require-SSNs-for-marriage#IDComment74990458 http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/ottawa_county/Can-a-county-require-SSNs-for-marriage#IDComment74988312 …And then the price of those goods would increase, causing that sector to shrink accordingly, leading to layoffs or lower wages again. The market balances-- you know that, watchman. Last I checked, the invisible hand wasn't limited by borders. Wed, 12 May 2010 01:56:52 +0000 http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/ottawa_county/Can-a-county-require-SSNs-for-marriage#IDComment74988312 http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9F3K3J80&show_article=1#IDComment68358364 "Animals." Wow. For being born on the wrong side of an imaginary line. I'm all for law and order, but that's because I'm not into the whole 'animal' thing… Not despite it. Fri, 16 Apr 2010 11:20:21 +0000 http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D9F3K3J80&show_article=1#IDComment68358364 http://www.woodtv.com/dpps/news/international/6.9-quake-strikes-baja-california_3302364#IDComment66088033 No, the attitude. The comment is the speech that conveys the attitude, and people are sick of it. Rob Bliss does something fun, and all anyone can do is sit in their armchair and call him an idiot. Maybe he is, but if the only response people can expect when they attempt to fix something that's wrong is mockery, they'll just go someone else where it isn't wrong to begin with. (To your other points, though, absolutely. I'd actually say your list is a bit short) Mon, 5 Apr 2010 19:23:05 +0000 http://www.woodtv.com/dpps/news/international/6.9-quake-strikes-baja-california_3302364#IDComment66088033 http://www.woodtv.com/dpps/news/international/6.9-quake-strikes-baja-california_3302364#IDComment65984007 You, sir, represent the reason your state's economy sucks and educated professionals are leaving in droves. Enjoy your self-righteousness :) Mon, 5 Apr 2010 02:20:45 +0000 http://www.woodtv.com/dpps/news/international/6.9-quake-strikes-baja-california_3302364#IDComment65984007 http://www.woodtv.com/dpps/news/international/6.9-quake-strikes-baja-california_3302364#IDComment65977561 We're from Fremont in Scottsdale, AZ - I was out on our balcony, very confused watching the relation between a palm tree and the my hands shake about... Mon, 5 Apr 2010 01:16:31 +0000 http://www.woodtv.com/dpps/news/international/6.9-quake-strikes-baja-california_3302364#IDComment65977561 http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/kalamazoo_and_battle_creek/MSP-car-chase-goes-over-100-mph#IDComment65859851 More often than not, sadly, there's simply a short paid vacation and an inconclusive 'internal investigation.' Then the chief applauds the officer for following protocol (or just being in a dangerous situation, or whatever) and the media drops it. Cheaper? Yes. Moral? Not even close. Sun, 4 Apr 2010 02:49:05 +0000 http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/kalamazoo_and_battle_creek/MSP-car-chase-goes-over-100-mph#IDComment65859851 http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/kalamazoo_and_battle_creek/MSP-car-chase-goes-over-100-mph#IDComment65859664 Ethics be damned! Sun, 4 Apr 2010 02:47:10 +0000 http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/kalamazoo_and_battle_creek/MSP-car-chase-goes-over-100-mph#IDComment65859664 http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/kalamazoo_and_battle_creek/MSP-car-chase-goes-over-100-mph#IDComment65859540 I think their opinion counts as much as yours… and as much as I paid for it :) Sun, 4 Apr 2010 02:45:47 +0000 http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/kalamazoo_and_battle_creek/MSP-car-chase-goes-over-100-mph#IDComment65859540 http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/kalamazoo_and_battle_creek/MSP-car-chase-goes-over-100-mph#IDComment65859476 It's also probably an un-legislated protocol. Sun, 4 Apr 2010 02:44:59 +0000 http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/kalamazoo_and_battle_creek/MSP-car-chase-goes-over-100-mph#IDComment65859476 http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/kalamazoo_and_battle_creek/MSP-car-chase-goes-over-100-mph#IDComment65859278 Why should 'eight' be capitalised if it is referring to an IQ? Further, why would you bring that up if yours ought to be capitalised as well? Assuming my IQ is, in fact, 8 (meaning my intelligence is on par with those 8% of my age, a misnomer to be sure) what would that say about a person who misspells their own username in addition to the supposed missed capitalisation? Why does 'it' have to be anyone? I'd call BS on your false dichotomy and simply hope that 'next time' it's not anyone. (PS, I looked for something correctly referred to by pheonix (sic) and was only able to find many more people who either typoed or misspelled. That's gotta be awkward for you) Sun, 4 Apr 2010 02:43:03 +0000 http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/kalamazoo_and_battle_creek/MSP-car-chase-goes-over-100-mph#IDComment65859278 http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/grand_rapids/Been-in-line-since-midnight-for-iPad#IDComment65832255 Maybe (definitely) with the name, but tablets have come and failed due to poor user interface before-- not because there's no market for them. Sun, 4 Apr 2010 00:44:16 +0000 http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/grand_rapids/Been-in-line-since-midnight-for-iPad#IDComment65832255 http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/grand_rapids/Been-in-line-since-midnight-for-iPad#IDComment65832145 Says the commenter on the WoodTv forums... Sun, 4 Apr 2010 00:43:01 +0000 http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/grand_rapids/Been-in-line-since-midnight-for-iPad#IDComment65832145 http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/grand_rapids/Been-in-line-since-midnight-for-iPad#IDComment65831949 That is the biggest load of technobabble crap I've heard since I moved away from West Michigan. Fact: both Macs and PCs run with an Intel instruction set. The hardware *standards* (that is, IDE/SATA, PCI, AGP, etc) are all the same. Check out InsanelyMac.com, where people are installing Mac OS X on PCs. Second, your assertion that Macs 'just execute the file' (I'm curious as to which file you refer) is a load. If files are stored as binary bits (they are) and a processor is 'executing' them, how (pray tell) does one do so without reading it? Furthermore, if it's reading 'the file' how is it not doing so 'bit by bit'? The truth is that programmers use software interfaces designed by the maker of the OS. A vast majority of the OS consists of these APIs, though the part Grama7 above sees is simply more software written using them. What ends up happening (as a simplification) is that one binary executable calls for a procedure that is not available on one OS or another. The WINE libraries rectify this (allowing Windows-targeted software to run natively on other platforms) by painstakingly rewriting these missing procedures. I'm not sure what your'e getting at with the X86 and X64 (x86_64, more semantically) buzzwords, but both companies have different strategies. I don't care much for Apple's censors, most of the time, but I do greatly appreciate the higher quality that it affords. You may have a point that cheap PCs flooded the market, but Microsoft has paid a toll for that in terms of reputation through ease of use. If Apple was regarded as having the same problems as Windows, NO ONE would bother and Apple would be gone. Sun, 4 Apr 2010 00:41:01 +0000 http://www.woodtv.com/dpp/news/local/grand_rapids/Been-in-line-since-midnight-for-iPad#IDComment65831949