en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/614981 Comments by eels http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027202.php#IDComment30617331 The King never smiled and Paul never blinked, interesting people both. Thu, 13 Aug 2009 06:40:16 +0000 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027202.php#IDComment30617331 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027237.php#IDComment30614420 Thank you for respecting my right to believe whatever I choose to believe in. I don't thank you for the assumption that I haven't read both the books you mention, I have and others of the same kith and kin. They left me unconvinced by their arguments. I reciprocate your respect, you can of course choose not to believe in whatever you like! Thu, 13 Aug 2009 05:56:30 +0000 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027237.php#IDComment30614420 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027186.php#IDComment30564208 I am not sure I understand your argument. And I am glad and not surprised that you and many other Muslims condemn killing people for being an apostate. But, you admit, do you not, that there is a debate within the Muslim Community about the merits and legitimacy of killing apostates? In much the same way I suppose there is a debate within the Church of England about the merits and legitimacy of female Bishops. I merely asked who the people arguing for killing apostates actually are? Your reply, (Ignoring the confusion caused by the "DO NOT do this" rant.) Seems to indicate that you are saying that these people are not Muslim, which appears to contradict your premise that the debate is within (your words, not mine) the Muslim Community. If they are not Muslim, but are within the Muslim community then who are they? I ask this because I am genuinely astonished that any one can argue that slaying someone for leaving or changing their religion can ever be a good thing. I would have hoped that this debate would have been concluded many many years ago. I am not Robert Spencer's cheerleader. Cheers, Eels Wed, 12 Aug 2009 21:16:12 +0000 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027186.php#IDComment30564208 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027186.php#IDComment30527954 First, this issue is debated within the Muslim community Why? It would seem abundantly, obviously, crystal clear that putting someone to death for leaving or changing a religion is always wrong. Who are the people arguing otherwise? Wed, 12 Aug 2009 15:25:37 +0000 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027186.php#IDComment30527954 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027237.php#IDComment30495660 "But by converting from Islam to Christianity, hasn't she gone from the frying pan into the fire."____No, she has stepped into the light. ________ Wed, 12 Aug 2009 09:11:24 +0000 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027237.php#IDComment30495660 http://jihadwatch.org/#IDComment30032106 Yuk, Just Yuk. Have you any idea how vulgar, patronising and asinine that sort of remark is? It, and those like it add nothing to any argument. And if you are labouring under the delusion that it is funny, and the stupid emoticom addendum suggests you are, then you are very very wrong. For shame AM Sat, 8 Aug 2009 09:12:51 +0000 http://jihadwatch.org/#IDComment30032106 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027138.php#IDComment29948980 It is good to be able to laugh at ones Religion. I remember sitting with a very wise and gentle and older American surgeon once, late in the evening after a particluarly long and hot operation somewhere remote and middle eastern. It had ben a hard day and after just sitting there for a while we both started laughing, apropos nothing much. "D'you know what the 11th commandment is?" He asked when we had done. "Nope" I replied, my BBC English accent, contrasting his Texan accent. "Don't take it all too seriously." That has stuck with me. As much as I love Jesus, and I do, I love laughing too. God's gift. And Bigus Dickus is too. (and his wife - ) Fri, 7 Aug 2009 15:41:05 +0000 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027138.php#IDComment29948980 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027138.php#IDComment29895427 "All I said was this piece of Hailbut was good enough for Jehovah!"__"Ooooh he said it again." Fri, 7 Aug 2009 09:45:29 +0000 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027138.php#IDComment29895427 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027135.php#IDComment29572671 My Prayers too, for you all. It must hurt so much. May God comfort you. Wed, 5 Aug 2009 19:30:31 +0000 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027135.php#IDComment29572671 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027105.php#IDComment29348877 With all possible means? Don't be a fool. It is precisely because there are things I wouldn't do, even if it costs me my life, that my has life meaning. Mon, 3 Aug 2009 21:45:19 +0000 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027105.php#IDComment29348877 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027105.php#IDComment29341805 No, i wouldn't do that - I would employ every non-violent means i could think of and imagine. Mon, 3 Aug 2009 20:20:49 +0000 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027105.php#IDComment29341805 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027105.php#IDComment29324667 It is possible you are right, but it is not for us to do the killing, at least not defined soley as Christians. It may be right, of course, for us to be defended by the armed forces within which there could be Christians. Mon, 3 Aug 2009 17:39:00 +0000 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027105.php#IDComment29324667 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027105.php#IDComment29320933 I would hope we Christians wouldn't respond with gunfire. Mon, 3 Aug 2009 16:53:50 +0000 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027105.php#IDComment29320933 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027105.php#IDComment29303811 There can be no justification for this, whatever alleged historical precedent you conjure from who knows where. Just as a matter of interest, Yom, what would your proposed "required education" include? Cheers, eels. Mon, 3 Aug 2009 13:35:33 +0000 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027105.php#IDComment29303811 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027046.php#IDComment28623148 The question of how a Christian congregation would react to a provocative and unexpected arrival is an interesting one. In the church that I attended we were often visited by street people in various states of undress and drunkenness. Many shouted profanities and raged against God and us. Far from being shocked we as a congregation endeavoured to welcome these people as best we could, show them love and offer what help we could. Indeed the church now has a congregation numbering in the high 10s of ex street people who have been helped by the various programmes run by the congregation. I can never remember anyone being offended or shocked, frightened sometimes, but never enough to call the police. In short the attitude of the place was not - “This persons offends me!” rather “What can we do to show the love of Christ to this person.”____ Tue, 28 Jul 2009 17:00:51 +0000 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027046.php#IDComment28623148 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027036.php#IDComment28486880 "Once again," - the first two words of your post are the saddest. Mon, 27 Jul 2009 07:27:07 +0000 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027036.php#IDComment28486880 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027019.php#IDComment28348707 How easily, nonchalantly even, some atheists assume the intellectual unassailability of their world view compared to that belonging to us poor unthinking believers. If you have truck with my belief that Christ is God, then out with it man, I can take it, same as I can take people scribbling in the Bible. But please stop the sarcastic false romanticism of religion, it isn't funny and gets us nowhere. Sat, 25 Jul 2009 19:14:44 +0000 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027019.php#IDComment28348707 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027019.php#IDComment28347298 Why do you love the idea of spoiling the appearance of the the doctrine that there is only one God? That seems to me to be an ambition somewhat lacking in verve and imagination, why not go the whole hog and say you love the idea of destroying monotheism which is what I suspect you meant. That way we all know where you stand. Sat, 25 Jul 2009 18:51:12 +0000 http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/027019.php#IDComment28347298