Bernie Sanders said today on Lou Dobbs he wouldn't take the plan the gov wants to dump on us if he has a choice! If the gov fines people for not taking the plan, how can that be choice? Please know this...about the health plan 3200. Included in it is the power for the government to take all your assets from you. It's not clear if this is at death or before. I believe it is at death even if you have provided for your own health care. But if this plan goes though, it will be illegal for you to provide health care for yourself. I know this sounds nuts but consider who wrote the bill! Also included in the bill is Charlie Rangle's new IRS laws. If you haven't seen this google it because it's very serious and all Americans need to know what's coming. We are in serious trouble if this passes. We need to contact our reps and demand complete exposure of EVERYTHING that comes out in ANY plan under consideration. There are only a handful of people in Washington who will reveal the truth. It's up to us to make it happen! Baucus' bill offers tax credits for so-called low income folks. 3200 waives any payment from those people and therefore puts the burden of payment on those who earn more. Therefore it gives a pass on any payments and fines on low income people INCLUDING illegal aliens! Why is the Public Option so important to the Dems? Because if it's not in the plan, these people will have to pay their own way, illegals too! There has to be a way to help those who don't have the money but that is only a small fraction of the population. It is not 40 to 50 million people! It's more like 8 million AMERICANS who cannot afford health care. We can help those people but we shouldn't be forced to help people who could otherwise have health care if they would budget their money and do without things they don't need!

Angelian, yes I have noticed! You are so right. I wonder how generous these people would be with the lives of their own loved ones or themselves. I think we know the answer to that question!

I don't know how anyone could be proud of taking 60,000 innocent lives but I guess that's the mentality of those who choose death over life. Tiller made about 30 million dollars "protecting the health of women" and I would suppose that is what they are all very proud of. They don't have to worry about working or not having an income from future abortions. Surely, 30 million should keep them well feed and comfortable for the rest of their lives.
The closing of the clinic is a blessing to America. Now maybe we can start raising America's future, at least from what is left of the lives that the other clinics don't destroy.

Cut all services to illegal aliens and send them back over the border or wherever they entered from. Families of those who will suffer some cutback in in-home services need to help out. It used to be families supported their own and local churches helped out. That was long ago before the government decided to play "mom" and pay the way of everyone's needs with other people's money! We need to pull together and do what we can for each other but the government must stop the madness and quit spending our money on illegal aliens and every other insane program sucking us dry. Our schools need to educate not indoctrinate. Our hospitals cannot continue to take millions of illegal aliens and their kids without pay. We need to deport illegals and clean up our State. I worked for 8 dollars an hour at a convenience store and worried if I could put gas in my car just to make it to work each day. I bought Banquet TV dinners when they were on sale for a dollar. I couldn't afford food and gas if they weren't on sale. People came into the store all the time with vouchers from the State for gas. The vouchers were for 20, 20, 40 dollars. These were people who were having some emotional issues and our State wanted to help them out so they could get to work or look for work! I couldn't believe it. Free gas! Every week! But not for me. I worked myself stupid until I would drop and hope I could just keep going and afford gas to go through another day's work. This is what has brought our State and nation down. It's freebies like that that add up into the billions until there's no more money! Enough is enough! Stop the madness!

Most of the uninsured are illegal aliens working and taking jobs from Americans and of course their many kids! I'd like to see in the Constitution where it gives our government the authority to steal from Americans to pay for the health and well being of illegal aliens. Those opposed to the socialist health care plan being drawn up should contact your Senators and Congressmen and ask them where this authority comes from.