en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/361297 Comments by dont_tread_1776 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=2331#IDComment26257342 I would agree with this notion of adapting to a warmer climate if Global Warming were a fact, but the fact is Global warming and all that comes with it are not even an issue at this point in time. Fri, 3 Jul 2009 23:15:05 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=2331#IDComment26257342 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=2331#IDComment26255863 TEAM PLAYER PALIN Palin's decision is what I wish MORE politicians would do. Being governor is supposed to be a SERVICE to the state of AK, not a CAREER in government. People that think that it is wrong to quit are too boneheaded to understand the value of strategic retreat. If anyone ever criticizes her for this move, I strongly suggest they read the Sun Tzu's Art of War which states: "The general who advances without coveting fame and retreats without fearing disgrace, whose only thought is to protect his country and do good service for his sovereign, is the jewel of the kingdom." If this is not convincing then I suggest they consider the strategy used to great success in Poker made popular by Kenny Rodgers: "You got to know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em" Palin is taking strategic game theory and applying it to politics, her her staff, and Lt. Governor can get down to the business of running Alaska to better effect without her unintended distractions taking the bulk of their effort. Palin is a fighter, a winner and an ICON, her work outside of the governors office have great potential to inspire a movement towards conservatism. Knowing which battles you can win and deciding which battles your contribution would be most critical to is something most politicians dont understand. Year after year, politicians seek re-election, and all their policies are geared to that end and they are not willing to SACRIFICE their career and some political capital to DO WHAT IS RIGHT. I Feel much more invigorated seeing Palin passing the ball to the man under the net rather than trying to drive through and pull off some show stopping slam dunk. That is teamwork, that is SACRIFICE. THAT IS THE AMERICA I LOVE. GOD BLESS AMERICA. Fri, 3 Jul 2009 22:49:36 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=2331#IDComment26255863 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=2331#IDComment26083968 America is not free. Oh there is the illusion of freedom, we are told that we can be whoever we want to be and do whatever we want to do, but it really isn't freedom. I cant just up and decide to become a farmer without jumping through some government hoops. I cant just start growing something and selling at a stand, there are tax issues, regulatory issues, zoning concerns, environmental needs, water usage issues. No I guess I cant just be a farmer... I cant just build my own home, no, there are zoning issues, building permits, officials to bribe, unions to appease and fire marshals to quietly entertain to just build your own home. I am not free and neither are you: Every dollar I pay in taxes is time out of my life to pay for someone else's stupidity Every dollar I dont earn because the cost of doing buisness has gone up due to increased energy prices, or over regulation, or excessive corporate taxes, or healthcare demands, or because of silly lawsuits brought on by the government is TIME away from my life that I must spend at work making up for that lost dollar. Slavery is alive and well in this country, I cant just up and do what I want, because I am beholden to the system of laws, regulations and taxes that must control all aspects of modern American life. Im gonna say this, but I dont want people to be confused. I am an ANARCHIST, this does not mean I believe in Chaos or violence or social disorder, I just dont believe in structure. People live by values, not by laws. Laws dont deter people from doing a crime if that persons value system tells them that what they are doing is acceptable, it only punishes those who get caught which incentivises more crime in furtherance of not getting caught, which requires more elaborate laws to prevent the actions people take to avoid getting caught. Look at Bernie Madoff as a prime example of this. Bernies crime was that he took investment money and put it into a general fund which he would pay out, upon request, by borrowing investment monies from other investors to cover unrealized earnings he had to pay out presently. Well this is illeagel for the same reason our social security system should be illeagle, eventually he will not be able to pay the promised returns because the returns dont exist and have been paid out to other investors already. well to prevent detection he also printed his own financial statements... sounds innocent, a financial statement is a financial statement, but this is illeagle because otherwise it is too easy for people to cook the books... Whatever happened to "buyer beware", what ever happened to "dont put all your eggs in one basket", some people are not trustworthy, but thats why you need to dig deeper, as Bernie to show you an independant audit of his financial records, spread your assets around into different accounts and investments and put some under your bed in case the whole world goes thunder dome on us. If I am free, then I dont need to hear speeches about how in America we can do anything and be anything we want. NO I CANT. I have to play the game, I have to sell my freedom, freedom I shouldnt have to sell to be who I want to be. TRY THIS, Make some toys for children, nice, simple, safe toys. Then go down town, put up a table and put your toys up for sale. See how long it takes before you have to close up shop or get arrested for loitering, or are forced to get a permit or declare the income on your taxes. Just try it, you cant do it...People in Hong Kong can do it. Our government will continue to take our freedoms piece by piece until we are left standing naked in the cold rain and wind, then they will swoop in and take more freedoms, but this time they will tell us they are doing it to help us poor ignorant sods out of the gutter. This 4th of July, tell your friends what real freedom is: Its living life according to your principals Its respecting the lives and freedoms of others Its the ability to keep whats yours Its the ability to make a life of your own without having to sell off your liberty for the opportunity Its your right to make mistakes and learn from them which means that the government cant swoop in and save you thereby eliminating the only learning mechanism in the process. . . suffering. And once you told your friends what freedom is. Implore them to DEFEND IT NOW, not in a couple years or the next election, or when they get finished with school, or after they get that promotion... It is all on the line. Thu, 2 Jul 2009 02:32:42 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=2331#IDComment26083968 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=2131#IDComment25981448 I'm ready, my bills are current and my assets are liquid. I know how to take care of my own needs and if someone from the government tries to "help" I'll show them the way back to the highway.... I'm would like to write a book about the evils of an intrusive government, but I am afraid that it will be labeled a "manifesto" and marginalized. Hey if they come for me I wont go down quietly because once your freedoms have been stripped, you have nothing to lose when they try to haul you away. PS, I am a calm person by nature, I dont get upset in traffic, and I hardly ever complain even when I am justified, but the crap I see happening is beyond reproach, it defies logic and reason. I'm as mad as hell and Im not going to take it anymore. Wed, 1 Jul 2009 01:38:03 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=2131#IDComment25981448 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=2131#IDComment25980971 I live in Taxachusetts and when I drive my huge Jeep with a Gadsden Flag that says "liberty or death" I get eye rolls from the people in their Toyota Pius...err Prius. Its like they cant imagine a world where carbon dioxide is just a gas that is critical to the habitability of the planet... Its ironic to see a Prius with a save the rainforest sticker, Rainforests need CO2 to survive, more CO2 means MORE bio diversity. Wed, 1 Jul 2009 01:28:23 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=2131#IDComment25980971 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=2131#IDComment25975551 From now on, the only politicians that will get my vote must promise the following: They will not create any new laws. They will repeal any laws with exception to those laws that prohibit: - Violence of any kind that is not consentual - Violations against private property that are not supported by contract Thats it, once they have done these two things, they can just sit on their fat asses until the next election cycle and go home. I dont want their help, I dont want special consideration. I dont want them to try to make society better. I certainly dont want them to "fix" the economy. And I could care less of the "playing field" is tilted on a 45 degree incline, I dont want them to "level" it even if I am at the bottom trying to climb up on a piece of frayed yarn. I would prefer total anarchy over what we have now, because at least then I have some idea of what the rules are and I know what I must do to survive. You cant buy a damn coffee these days without some kind of non-sense. I got a receipt for a cup of coffee, is this something I need to report on my taxes now? Will I get audited if I fail to report how many porter house steaks I have consumed this year thereby under representing my "carbon footprint"? You know what, I am just gonna run my SUV's engine 24/7 just to protest cap n tax. If someone tells me to turn it off, I will rev the engine more, and turn the heater on to further increase it's footprint. I will turn all of the lights on in the house and when the bill comes, I will pay at the pre-cap n trade rate. When they send me to prison for not paying my taxes and bills or for running my car too much, I will run the faucet and toilet constantly, and sue the state until they turn the heat up to 85 degrees in the entire prison because it is cruel and unsusal to keep it so cold. I will quit my job and take a job as a farmer, but I will not provide documentation so that I can get paid under the table and not have taxes taken out. Ok, so I went on a bit of a tangent... but my laptop has been on full brightness the whole time... Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:48:51 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=2131#IDComment25975551 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=2131#IDComment25972942 CNN removed this article.... guess this news is not fit to print. Tue, 30 Jun 2009 23:03:49 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=2131#IDComment25972942 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=2131#IDComment25744576 This is interesting, but now things are a bit different. Information was scarce in the first 2/3rds of the century, the lack of information allowed these techniques to work without challenge. Now Information spreads like a wildfire, facts can permeate the public rapidly. Now not only do the elites seek to control you through your base emotions, but also by the manipulation of information. People accept the notions proposed in Al Gore's "An Inconvenient Truth" not because they are true, but because the producer puts forth a slew of data, the data need not even make sense for people to believe it, but the existence of seemingly factual information gives the film a sense of credibility. In television shows like Star Trek, the characters throw out all sorts of techno babble and this techno babble gives the characters and concepts the same sense of credibility. The power of raw, un-manipulated information is so terrifying to government that they purposely and proactively manipulate the facts and present them to Americans before they have an opportunity to consider raw information. Once the media and government has presented its manipulated information, people dont generally have a reason to challenge it because it seems on its face credible. People should challenge every bit of information and read more primary sources of information and less secondary sources. Primary sources of information are more challenging for people to wade through, there is a sense that you have to have a science degree to read scientific data, this myth is perpetuated by the professors, scientists and the media, they are presented as experts and their assertions are trusted unquestioningly. The fact that scientists and professors and other "learned men" are placed on a pedistal like this, makes average citizens feel inferior and unable to understand information without these experts to translate the data for them. Knowledge is power and we are all more connected to raw data then ever before, there are no walls around the data and we can take our time considering it. But as long as politicians control the media, then too many people will be satisfied with their version of the facts, because they seem credible and because they use your base emotions to guide you to see only the details they want you to see because you need to see it to satisfy a deeper need. Capitalism and consumerism are not the same thing. Capitalism embraces the natural flow of goods and services from producer to consumer, rather than forcing the flow of goods and services from a central plan. Capitalism is the natural state of humanity to put walls up aroud it is to try and sandbag the tides, you might gave short term success, but in the long run, your walls will crash down. Consumerism is simply people buying things they dont need because they think they need them, there is nothing wrong with this as long as you know you dont need the crap you are buying and your financial house is in order. Sun, 28 Jun 2009 15:56:42 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=2131#IDComment25744576 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=2131#IDComment25717087 Hitler was a master at propaganda and even produced his own propaganda films which have been studied by film students and psychologists alike for their ability to persuade the viewer...See "Triumph of the will"... Obama has his own media outlets (NBC, ABC), they practically line up to work for him. He has his own publicist (Newsweek, New York Times)....They all would drool over the prospect of making a movie called "the audacity of hope... and it is probably already in post production waiting for release... This guy must go...one way or another. Obama must go, Biden must go and Palosi must go...the whole damn government must go all at once. In fact, I have been inspired by the folks in Iran their movement has energized me in a way I did not know was possible, in 1776, the American Revolution INSPIRED the French revolution which went down in 1789. The 2009 Iranian revolution will hopefully inspire the 2010 American revolution. thats right 2010, I am NOT waiting for an entire election cycle to fix this problem by then the damage will be done. I am not going to sit by and wait for my opportunity to go to the polls and "participate", the whole thing has been rigged from the start and it is too late to try to fix it the proper way. Obama wants change...I'LL GIVE HIM CHANGE...A Change of scenery... Hope he likes Prison, cause thats where he belongs, in a cell with Bernie Madoff. Sun, 28 Jun 2009 07:00:36 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=2131#IDComment25717087 http://theglennbeck912project.com/vent-8/#IDComment23850958 Too Honest is not her only issue among liberals. She is too effective at conveying the conservative understanding of things. Her messages convey complex concepts about economics, ethics and government in a way that is bumper sticker simple. Liberals fear her because for a long time, liberals had emotional appeals on their side now that Palin comes along and can articulate why it is wrong for the government to redistribute money from "greedy rich people to poor people who have not been given a chance", they dont know what to do so they mock her, they marginalize her and they HATE her. Plus she is a woman who has broken their "glass ceiling" it is inconceivable that a conservative woman should be able to do this since their understanding of conservatives leads them to believe that the women should be barefoot and pregnant in the kitchen cookin up roadkill for the man of the house. Thu, 11 Jun 2009 03:14:29 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/vent-8/#IDComment23850958 http://theglennbeck912project.com/vent-8/#IDComment23849801 When I was young and silly, I learned some hard lessons about the value of money and work. I learned them by making some stupid mistakes like paying rent with high interest credit card cash withdrawals, and buying a car I couldn't afford (among many many other things). I made some career decisions that were not very helpful to my situation, and it took me a DECADE to fix these misteps, but now I know better. What the governent is doing now is saying "hay, its all cool man. . . you can screw up all you want, good ol' uncle Obama will bail you out". Even though I know better now, even though I have some painful memories of my foolish youth, I am just now being tempted to do foolish things again like quit my job or take on expenses that are beyond my means cause hell, King Obama is going to make it all better. This is wrong, this is counter productive, this is VIOLENCE towards anybody that MUST WORK for a living. This is SLAVERY, not with a whip, but with the rule of arbitrary and unevenly applied law. Thu, 11 Jun 2009 03:00:04 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/vent-8/#IDComment23849801 http://theglennbeck912project.com/vent-8/#IDComment23841329 No more taxes for me: I am going to quit my job, sell everything and become a bum. I will only do jobs that pay under the table and I will only spend money on things that I need to survive. I will accept charity from organizations that do not recieve money from the government. I am sick and tired. I want the economy to get worse because that is the only way for it to get better. When I first started posting on this website (shortly after it was launched) I could list the things that the government was involved with with relative ease, now I cannot even keep up with all of the various economic "bailouts", "solutions" and "arrangements" that our government is working on. They shouldn't be working on ANY economic "solutions". Leaving the economy to its own natural fluctuations is the ONLY solution, everything else is just political games and favors. I am an optimist, as I think most conservatives are, but I do not want to participate in this economy because if my effort allows President Obama's socialist economic system to have some kind of short term success (and thats the only kind there is for socialism) then I am just helping to prop up a long run disaster. When i go into work, I am gonna put my badge on the front desk and in the immortal words of Eric Cartman I am gonna say "Screw you guys, I'm going home". Thu, 11 Jun 2009 00:10:25 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/vent-8/#IDComment23841329 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1701#IDComment22929598 THE GOODE FAMILY: Just when I've written off nearly all television shows as a soap boxes for liberal "talent". Mike Judge brings us The Goode Family. This show is hilarious and points out the crazy PC crap that permeates our society and media. I refuse to watch any shows on NBC or its Affiliates, I even gave up watching The Office to protest NBC... I encourage people to choose what they watch on television carefully, this medium is a self reinforcing system, the more liberal tripe we watch, the more "important" people begin to think that these are actually important values. Every pair of eyes that watches NBC provides them with income. Watch The Goode Family, if your sick and tired of the "greening" of America and the rest of the PC tripe that goes along with the liberal lifestyle, then you will love this show. Sun, 31 May 2009 21:28:33 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1701#IDComment22929598 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment22022266 If Dick Cheney had anything to cover-up, then he would not be SPEAKING OUT. Dick Cheney is not perfect, but he is right. If he had something to hide, then why draw attention to it. The reason Cheney says anything at all is because he understands the nuances of the issue and understands the impact of the policy on the security of Americans. Your question is BOGUS, it suggests that no matter why Cheney is speaking out, it is the result of his ineptitude or judgement. Fri, 22 May 2009 02:21:38 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment22022266 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment22020692 MASSHOLE SEEKING REFUGE Ok, I apologize in advance, I am a resident of Massachusetts and in all probability, your federal taxes will end up in my state to help pay for some sort of entitlement, or, the big union bailout errr... "Big Dig"... Please Please, I cannot stand this place, its LITERALLY like an insane asylum.... I have to drive to work in my SUV whilst liberals pull up to me and scowl as they frive by in their Toyota Pius...err Prius... So, I dont want to pay taxes in Mass. I dont want to contribute to the nanny state. I want to move to a state that has some self respect. I want to move to a state that has some appreciation for the rights it has been granted by the constitution and doesnt want to bend over and accept the federal governments power. I want to move, please help me. I am 33, I have a BS in History from a decent college, I am currently employed as a Quality Assurance Coordinator for the second largest financial services company in the world, which means absolutely nothing to 99% of the planet. Please, give me some options, I cant just up and move out without a job lined up, but I am quite close to walking out and giving Deval Patrick the finger on the way across the Mason-Dixon line. I cannot take it anymore its like being a card carrying member of the communist party. Please let me know what your state is doing to reassert its constitutional rights and defend the constitutional rights of its citizens. Sincerely, Better dead than red. Fri, 22 May 2009 01:37:21 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment22020692 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21577623 Nothing beats drinking beer...unless its a gallon of beer that was brewed in direct violation of the federal law. I know that the conversations on this site can get somewhat high fa-lutin but really at some point LIBERTY really ends up with simple things like making beer and getting too drunk to sing. Hopefully my singing isn't a violation of federal law...though some could make a convincing argument in that regard and get little protest. Sat, 16 May 2009 02:31:58 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21577623 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21574280 BEER PROTEST: Federal law limits the amount of beer an individual may brew to 100 gallons per year for an individual household and 200 gallons per year for a household of two or more adults. I will brew 101 gallons. OHH NOOO!!! Someone call the ATF, this guy has lost his mind, he is gonna upset the delicate balance of interstate commerce and hes probably gonna get drunk doing it. Sat, 16 May 2009 01:04:31 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21574280 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1421#IDComment21416748 How long is very long? When do we decide long has become too long? What do we do if the political movement doesn't take hold in time for it to make a difference? Which issues are the hardest to reverse, which are the most important to reverse? I know I'm asking a lot of questions here, but a part of me is very concerned that we have passed the point of no return on some of these things. I don't like feeling helpless so I need someone to point out the fading exit sign that I may be missing. I want to explore the political solution because the other solution is not something I enjoy considering, but those are the thoughts that sometimes run through my mind when I hear about the newest act of stupidity that seems to come out of our federal government on an hourly basis. Am I some kind of maniac for actually considering the "other" solution? Thu, 14 May 2009 01:21:12 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1421#IDComment21416748 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1421#IDComment21415391 ONE QUESTION: ******************************************************************************************************************************** Is it too late to fix the things that have or will be done by our government with a political movement? Thu, 14 May 2009 00:54:25 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1421#IDComment21415391 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1421#IDComment21414792 Why dont you just tell us what your angle is here angry_atthe_sun. Are you here just to try and provoke people? or do you have something useful to contribute. I haven't read all of your posts, but the ones I have read do nothing to answer the many questions or concerns that have been posted. ASK YOURSELF THIS: Are you posting on this site to contribute your thoughts and ideas to help restore personal liberty in America, or do you just satisfy some emotional need. CAN YOU HONESTLY ANSWER THIS? Thu, 14 May 2009 00:40:32 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1421#IDComment21414792