en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/100593 Comments by dome200q http://www.dodbuzz.com/2012/03/28/h-i-pitches-patrol-frigate-as-cheaper-alternative-to-lcs/#IDComment332855748 25 October 1944, LCdr. Ernest Evans, USS Johnston (DD-557), Taffy 3 screening destroyer, Battle off Samar. Can’t seem to remember any fight that was ever won by running away – by design. Fri, 6 Apr 2012 06:08:56 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/2012/03/28/h-i-pitches-patrol-frigate-as-cheaper-alternative-to-lcs/#IDComment332855748 http://www.dodbuzz.com/2012/03/28/h-i-pitches-patrol-frigate-as-cheaper-alternative-to-lcs/#IDComment331976290 One final thing – We knew the 18 didn’t have the legs that the A6 or A7 did, meaning the carrier had to get closer to the troops we were tasked to support, and sometimes the ship isn’t on-station to offer that support like at Yankee Station off of Nam when we’d have to respond with an Alpha Strike….. To ensure our Opeval report was correct on this, we few a Hornet with all stations loaded with external drop tanks, flew them till they were empty and jettisoned the tanks to lighten the load and reduce air drag. Just didn’t have the legs, and nobody had to doctor the books to state facts. Now for the meat of all this – A few years after I PCS’d, ran into an old shipmate and of course, played the opposite of mustard – ketchup. The pilot that flew that hop – passed over, dead end job, got out. Not only was he a sh_t hot pilot while I knew him, he was a good division officer to his troops, well rounded individual. The Navy Brass wanted this airplane, and no amount of truth was going to slow down its purchase. I actually, truthfully wondered how many admirals had copious amounts of McDonald Douglas stock, or was promised jobs on their board of directors after they retired….. especially when (I believe) APU’s started blowing up killing pilots. This just doesn’t seem too different. Thu, 5 Apr 2012 04:03:17 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/2012/03/28/h-i-pitches-patrol-frigate-as-cheaper-alternative-to-lcs/#IDComment331976290 http://www.dodbuzz.com/2012/03/28/h-i-pitches-patrol-frigate-as-cheaper-alternative-to-lcs/#IDComment331975625 But-but-but this patrol frigate doesn’t LOOK as cool as our littoral combat ship! Cry me a river…. Back in the day, (1980) as an AK2, I done got stuck with the job of IMRL (aircraft special support gear) manager for my squadron just about the time we (VX-5) started the Opeval on the bomber version of the F/A-18. It was a mess – nobody prior to me had read the 13650 Inst. so as to be able to do it correctly for quite some time – and on top of trying to fix old problems, here comes all this new Hornet ‘push’ gear….. What a mess. Did I mention that I had just transferred from Light Attack – A-7’s? Not tooting my own horn – you guys would just laugh me off of this thread. Well, there I am, hunched over my typewriter, banging out 306 custody cards for 1,375 line items (times three, of course) when into my cubby hole walks this suit. He introduces himself as a retired light commander working for McDonald Douglas and starts giving me a sales pitch for the –18, like I’m going to take out my checkbook and buy one for my carport and let my kid go without her milk…. Had five extended deployments under my belt, and knew most of the ‘Nam era carrier birds pretty well, and the A-7 extreamly well. This guy is extorting the virtues of the –18 like mad but made a tactical mistake – didn’t know his enemy (me - he interupted my worktime). Starts off telling me that it’d carry more ordnance than any other A/C on our fleet inventory, and by golly – had a shadow outlay of his pet to prove it. Did I mention five cruises – the last three Nam cruises of the Kitty Hawk, and seem to remember that VA-52 Knightriders with their A-6E Intruders made those same ones with me, plus one other, plus the two I had with VA-94 and our A-7’s. I didn’t need a shadow outlay of either attack bird to start asking him if the stations he was pointing to were mers or ters, and how many MK-84 iron bombs was carried on each station….. then we started discussing mileage and things really went downhill…. Back in the day, the 18 was good to go – only to the next gas station, that is. Dam good way to PROJECT power – build gas stations. He wasn’t a happy camper when he left – neither did he try to sell me a bird. Shame, I wanted to see what kind of discount he was going to give me. Have to admit, two motors are always better than one, bombing accuracy was a skosh better (-18 = 15ft, -7 = 25 ft, 500 pound (and bigger) bomb = doesn’t matter), pilot-pit (real word not allowed) laid out much better, maintenance access much better, goes to easier, faster maintenance. Thu, 5 Apr 2012 04:01:36 +0000 http://www.dodbuzz.com/2012/03/28/h-i-pitches-patrol-frigate-as-cheaper-alternative-to-lcs/#IDComment331975625 http://defensetech.org/2012/03/12/chinese-spies-use-fake-facebook-pages-to-gain-intel/#IDComment316532811 Regardless - - - the only thing I have typed is current legal reality. You, not so much. You have not added one thing of value with any post you've made on this entire thread. Responding to meaningless typing is not worth missing a rerun of The Big Bang Theory. TTFN Thu, 15 Mar 2012 05:59:08 +0000 http://defensetech.org/2012/03/12/chinese-spies-use-fake-facebook-pages-to-gain-intel/#IDComment316532811 http://defensetech.org/2012/03/12/chinese-spies-use-fake-facebook-pages-to-gain-intel/#IDComment316530313 ‘Suppose’ a frog had wings..... gravity IS right. 215 IS law. Thu, 15 Mar 2012 05:53:44 +0000 http://defensetech.org/2012/03/12/chinese-spies-use-fake-facebook-pages-to-gain-intel/#IDComment316530313 http://defensetech.org/2012/03/12/chinese-spies-use-fake-facebook-pages-to-gain-intel/#IDComment316517909 And I should have added - 'Your point?' - That is, besides making noise. Thu, 15 Mar 2012 05:26:36 +0000 http://defensetech.org/2012/03/12/chinese-spies-use-fake-facebook-pages-to-gain-intel/#IDComment316517909 http://defensetech.org/2012/03/12/chinese-spies-use-fake-facebook-pages-to-gain-intel/#IDComment316502521 Regardless of either it’s name or constitutionality, it has been signed into law, and until it’s challenged and defeated in a court of law, it’s current legal existence renders ‘Guest’s’ post as inaccurate. Thu, 15 Mar 2012 04:54:00 +0000 http://defensetech.org/2012/03/12/chinese-spies-use-fake-facebook-pages-to-gain-intel/#IDComment316502521 http://defensetech.org/2012/03/12/chinese-spies-use-fake-facebook-pages-to-gain-intel/#IDComment316472602 Not anymore. You might want to read Section 215 (Access to records and other items under FISA) of the USA PATRIOT Act, Title II. That thing that Pres. Obama not only extended, but enhanced by signing 215 into law....... Thu, 15 Mar 2012 03:51:36 +0000 http://defensetech.org/2012/03/12/chinese-spies-use-fake-facebook-pages-to-gain-intel/#IDComment316472602 http://www.katu.com/news/local/131457048.html#IDComment218871503 JM, thanks for the compliment. Sorry it took me so long to respond, was out of town for a while. You might not see this handle much anymore as KOMO banned me 2 months ago for defending myself (WITHOUT breaking their rules- I used the phrase ‘foot in your mouth’). I’ve contested it to them (twice), but they don’t even have the manors to ‘auto’ reply. Might create a new handle (d2), but it’s also kind of nice NOT reading the news as much as I was….(an addiction to news??????) Tue, 8 Nov 2011 21:18:35 +0000 http://www.katu.com/news/local/131457048.html#IDComment218871503 http://www.katu.com/news/local/131457048.html#IDComment206154793 Haven’t heard of too many situations where a body was shot for KNOCKING on your front door…. Tue, 11 Oct 2011 21:15:38 +0000 http://www.katu.com/news/local/131457048.html#IDComment206154793 http://www.katu.com/news/local/131453798.html#IDComment206149584 Howdy Esco..... The watcher watchers? I dunno.. Wouldn’t it be funny if this burglar did go into WPP and his caseworker was the officer that he tried to burglarize? Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:59:36 +0000 http://www.katu.com/news/local/131453798.html#IDComment206149584 http://www.katu.com/news/local/131457048.html#IDComment206140990 Back in the 60’s we lived on SE 26th in Portland, and Mom had a jerk try to break in while Dad was on the road. She called the police to report the in-progress break-in, and was told that an officer would respond in a bit…… She said no problem, she knew enough to drag the body in after she shot him out of the house with Dad’s .308. Cops arrived within three minutes and hauled off a lucky guy. Mom was a pretty good shot. Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:32:53 +0000 http://www.katu.com/news/local/131457048.html#IDComment206140990 http://www.katu.com/news/local/131457048.html#IDComment206132499 You might try re-reading my posts to you, because you’re mistaken on what I said and what I meant. First off, two wars taught me what ‘open fire’ meant. Ask any Marine or any of those Rangers I mentioned. First shot, and it’s a done deal. As to your third paragraph, I was the one who mentioned the lack of any facts to base any conclusions on and that folks were getting their exercise…… I did not at anytime say he did or did not have adequate backstop for his shots, I presented a ‘what if’’ scenario. Others posting presumed, not me. I DO know the importance of knowing what your backstop is, and what is different between you and I, is that I also understand the consequences if you are shooting without knowing and things go horribly wrong. As to your statement about never implying about the safety of others, you challenged dmcq (who’s rather out there), in a way that indicated to me that you didn’t belive in that fact. If I misinterpreted your meaning, then I apologize. That is why I tossed in the analogy of shooting your family member vice a backstop, to get my point across. It IS important, to citizens as well as trained officers. And the biggest indicator that you should actually READ a post before replying….your second to the last statement. Never in my life have I said that the average citizen shouldn’t arm themselves. Did you miss one of my favorite sayings that I posted to you? “When seconds count, the police are minutes away?” Try sitting back and giving that a thought or two. I HAVE said (and often) that most mouthy folks have not contemplated what it actually means to take a life. Most folks talk big, and choke on the trigger, even when they are in a totally righteous shooting situation. And on top of that, I didn’t think that politely presenting a different POV deserved a TD, no matter how far apart the views might be. I guess that’s the difference between those that respect others and those that try to lord over them. PS, killing an innocent bystander when there is no threat to the life of the person shooting at a burglar or anyone else is in fact a charge of manslaughter. That’s not an opinion of mine, but a fact of law. Tue, 11 Oct 2011 20:07:33 +0000 http://www.katu.com/news/local/131457048.html#IDComment206132499 http://www.katu.com/news/local/131457048.html#IDComment205792244 Well, that’s the second time I was negged for politely responding to you, this time late in the story’s life. You must not like any other POV that doesn’t start with you. So noted. Oh, you never answered how you’d like it if a shooter missed his 'burglar' and didn’t pay attention to where his rounds were going and killed a family member of yours….. wonder why….. Tue, 11 Oct 2011 01:27:11 +0000 http://www.katu.com/news/local/131457048.html#IDComment205792244 http://www.katu.com/news/local/131457048.html#IDComment205717738 MC, I’m not trying to pick on you, and I DO firmly believe that when seconds count, the police are only minutes away, I still need to point out something you’ve overlooked. First off, there is no mention if the burglar was armed, there was no mention if the officer was in fear of his life, there is no mention of how many rounds were fired, there was no mention of what his backstop was……. Just a bunch of people getting their exercise jumping to conclusions as if all those blanks were filled in. The point you miss is a legal one. And would also depend on how much latitude the local DA had….. What if a person missed his target without paying attention to what was behind his target, and killed your child? The safety of others DOES make a difference. I believe it’s called manslaughter. If someone killed my child or wife, I would greatly ‘give a $h1t’. Mon, 10 Oct 2011 21:37:15 +0000 http://www.katu.com/news/local/131457048.html#IDComment205717738 http://www.katu.com/news/local/131457048.html#IDComment205694520 And regardless of training, you speak FOR the Officer, right? You’re a braver man than I, Gunga Din. Mon, 10 Oct 2011 20:28:55 +0000 http://www.katu.com/news/local/131457048.html#IDComment205694520 http://www.katu.com/news/local/131457048.html#IDComment205667601 I’m surprised that no one here has mentioned that those employed in the “Federal Protective Service” are the ones that manage the Witness Protection Program. If this burglar ends up requiring their services it’s going to add a whole new point of view to the old saying, ‘who watches the watchers’? Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:18:57 +0000 http://www.katu.com/news/local/131457048.html#IDComment205667601 http://www.katu.com/news/local/131457048.html#IDComment205665549 MadCow, I’m a firm believer in the saying ‘an armed society is a polite society’ but none the less, after the first round goes down-range, whether any others follows it or not, the phase ‘opened fire’ is correct. And as to the Officer’s marksmanship; several years ago up in Tacoma (Hilltop), the drug pushers p1ssed off a mass of Army Rangers, and the boys ‘borrowed’ their business tools and went to town. Local LEO’s recovered over 3,000 shell casings of the 7.62 variety, yet not one drug dealer was hit. Sorry, but I know the Rangers are better shots than that. They did not WANT to hit anyone. Just maybe it was the same with this officer? Mon, 10 Oct 2011 19:12:34 +0000 http://www.katu.com/news/local/131457048.html#IDComment205665549 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/129418088.html#IDComment190870297 I have some problems charging 12 and 14 year olds for being, well, kids. I could understand that idea if it was their implicit intent to start the fire, and I would have to swallow hard while trying to defend them if they had tried to hide their actions, but they didn’t try to hide anything. They “started a wildfire, then ran down the beach and got help” per Sheriff Hernandez. If the county wants to recoup their expenditures from the parents and potentially economically destroy two/three families, fine, but by charging the kids with a crime, society is just saying that it doesn’t pay to come forward and be truthful, that honesty is NOT the best policy. Charging them (I assume, for arson) for what COULD have happened is overkill for 21 acres and two birds being disturbed when some mentoring for the potential shown might prove to be a bit more useful to society overall in the long run. Thu, 8 Sep 2011 00:27:28 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/129418088.html#IDComment190870297 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/129350133.html#IDComment190580324 Not quite right EMD….. lots of (fish) guts…..no glory. <g> Wed, 7 Sep 2011 04:30:00 +0000 http://www.komonews.com/news/local/129350133.html#IDComment190580324