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5 days ago @ Mark Reads - Mark Reads 'Snuff': Pa... · 0 replies · +4 points

That makes sense in the "Might have died" section, or at least as I tend to use it.

And that is a perfectly valid add. Added.

5 days ago @ Mark Reads - Mark Reads 'Snuff': Pa... · 2 replies · +6 points

We're baaaaaaaack:

Death toll?

Treasure-hunters plundering goblin settlements and the retaliation by the goblins themselves, has coloured human-gobiln relationships even to the present day. (pg 11)
"The dreadful algebra of necessity" and the unggue pot called "soul of tears". (pg 11/185-187) Whom may die so that some may live.
Drugs that make trolls heads explode. Probably fatal even for trolls. (pg 11)
On the streets if you don't learn fast you're dead. (pg 41)
Suspicious-looking burial mounds. Often contain the dead. (pg 45)
Hangman's Hill. It's right there on the tin. (pg 47)
Sam Vimes was no stranger to death. Suicides, murders, hangings. (pg 50) Some days are bad days. (pg 212)
The Ramkin family crypt. Those grandfathers and grandmothers down the centuries.(pg 51)
Lord Rust, without whose unique grasp of strategy and tactics several wars would not have been so bloodily won. (pg 62)
Should have gone for the Marquis of Fantailer. That has been carves on mnay a gravestone. (pg 82)
The Light Dragons, Makepeace is the only one left. (pg 92)
The lime pit next to the Tanty Gallows. (pg 106)
No major murders. So... (pg 118)
You don't last long in the military as a killer. (pg 123)
Makepeace has seen too much killing is his time. (pg 125)
The yellow grass weevil of Howondaland has been known to enter the skill via the ears, lay its eggs in the victim's brain and leave the poor victim hallucinating continuously until it exits via the nostrils. Death inevitably ensues. (pg 143) They're very good at getting skulls scrupulously clean.
Sam Vimes has killed people. He likes to think he tried not to. Presumably we've not seen them all. (pg 153)
What happened to the goblins 3 years ago. (pg 163)
A man was hung for the contents of his cellar. The contents of which Vimes would not burden Feeney with. There may have been a death involved there then. (pg 165)
The goblin family of Miss Beedle's mother were all slaughtered. (pg 180)
Lord Justice Hangnail, "criminals always lie" and involved in the rope industry. (pg 206)
Crystal Slam, taken by trolls a few times and they drop down dead. Manufacture is a hanging offense. (pg 218)
Giving King's evidence, it's death by hanging if you lied. (pg 220)
According to the Omnians, murder was the third crime ever committed. (pg 246)
The Goblin deaths at the tobacco farm in Howandaland. (pg 259)
The Glorious Peggy was blown out of the water by a gas buildup. (pg 286)
Victims of the vicious and inventive murderers that Vimes has dragged to justice. (pg 287-288)
Stratford has killed maybe sixteen people, not including goblins. (pg 294)
Mr Trooper's clients.
The first time the goblins were taken. (pg 342)

We're done? We're done. There's quite a bit to digest there. Did someone bring the weevils? Contributions? You know what to do.

R 'hang' id

5 days ago @ Mark Reads - Mark Reads 'Snuff': Pa... · 5 replies · +7 points

Death List 39.01b Snuff

Debut Death List Season continues. It's Debut Death Lists all the way down? This sort of past me behaviour is really not quite up to Snuff. The numbering comes from a fresh 2011 Doubleday HC with pages 9 through 378.

Bring on the old Treachery:

Definitely died - on page

a goblin - head mounted on the pub's wall (pg 56)
The Pleasant Contrast of the Orange and Yellow Petals in the Flower of the Gorse - murdered by Stratford (pg 142)
additional goblin - Wee Mad Arthur "ended its suffering" (pg 259)
another goblin - died on the barge (pg 283)
a pirate - the sound you heard was one of the pirates dying (pg 290-292)
Stratford - killed by Wilkins (pg 366)

Definitely died - off page (ie referred to by someone)

Stump's great grandfather - his skull is kept in the hermit's grotto (pg 40-41)
Stump's father - his skull is also in the grotto (pg 40-41)
Stump's grandfather - also residing in the grotto (pg 40-41)
Sybil's granddad - when he was alive (pg 41)
One of Sybil's Great Uncles - killed in a duel (pg 41)
Ming Chang - died a few months ago (pg 110)
Mr Upshot - died (pg 112/165)
Mistress Slightly - dead (pg 147)
Mr Beedle - killed in the Klatchian war (pg 161)
a man - hung (pg 165)
The wife of the Marquis of Fantailer - murdered by the Marquis (pg 174)
Wilkin's mother - passed away (pg 205)
a baby goblin - the "soul of tears" unggue pot attached to Colon (pg 234)
Jethro Jefferson's dad - died (pg 342)
a guard - throat cut by Stratford (pg 363)
the last snarkenfaugister - died in a freak pencil-sharpener accident (pg 368)

Might have died

a pirate - Mister Harrison got one of them (pg 291)
Mister Harrison - stabbed by another pirate (pg 291)

A quick break as this list runs long...

9 weeks ago @ Mark Reads - Mark Reads 'I Shall We... · 0 replies · +7 points


I am not sure how I missed Macintosh. But you're certainly correct, at the very least he died there in the fire. The Cunning Man I didn't count because, as you say, he's just banished and will, inevitably, be back.


9 weeks ago @ Mark Reads - Mark Reads 'I Shall We... · 2 replies · +7 points

Death List 38.01b I Shall Wear Midnight

Once more with a Interwebs Debut Death List. It does seem like past me started coasting a little towards the end there. Slacker. At least it was down on compressed vegetable matter this time? It's numbered by way of an 2010 Doubleday HC with pages 9 through 345.

Time to leap into the fire.

Definitely died - on page

The Baron - died (pg 80)
Mrs Coble - fell into the cellar (pg 210)

Definitely died - off page (ie referred to by someone)

Baby Petty - killed by Mr Petty (pg 30)
An old woman up near Slice - died in her bed (pg 38)
Mrs Snapperly - died in the snow (pg 61)
The Baroness - passed on (pg 71)
The Baron's father (the Baron) - died (pg 80)
Brian's Nan - died (pg 84)
The old blacksmith - helped to his death (pg 110)
Mr Proust - passed on twenty-five years ago (pg 125)
An old lady - beaten to death (pg 137/138)
The King of Ankh Morepork - decapitated by Stoneface Vimes (pg 155)
A witch - burned at the stake (pg 162)
The witchfinder - thrust out of the world (pg 163)
William's grandad - died (pg 192)
Mr Coble - died (pg 209)
Mavis - a freak accident involving a flight of stairs, a cat and a scythe (pg 244)

Death toll?

Smoothed an old man's path to his grave. (pg 17) Probably not just the one.
There was still a torture chamber in the castle and even though it hadn't been used for hundreds of years... (pg 26)
Darker Crimes against the Music. (pg 34)
Witches being burned, being pressed flat on the ground with lots of stones. (pg 142)
The Tanty. The inmates and the victims of inmates. They killed people for a hobby, or for a god, or for something to do, or because it wasn't a very nice day. (pg 149)
Mr Proust was a hangman. (pg 150)
What was found in the King of Ankh Moreporks private dungeon. Possibly not everyone lived? (pg 155)
A witchfinder, a book-burner and a torturer. (pg 160/161) Suddenly witches were everywhere, but not for long. (pg 162)
Those taken over by the Cunning Man. (pg 163)
Witches that have fought the Cunning Man and died. (pg 164)
Deceased Feegles and their complicated theology. (pg 165)
Lord Rust's men. (pg 175)
Seating the ghosts. Avoiding another massacre. (pg 186)
Feegles vs humans. Taking a shovel to a Feegle mound.(pg 269/270)
The victims of Macintosh. (pg 280/281)

The Undead

Mavis - a ghost
Skeleton (formerly screaming) - a skeleton
The First Duke - a ghost

Aaaaand out again. Sins of omission? Bring it!

R 'older' id

17 weeks ago @ Mark Reads - Mark Reads 'Unseen Aca... · 0 replies · +6 points

Buy things!

Aaaaand we're back. Play ball!

Death toll?

A certain prowess with the stiletto dagger. (pg 9)
Sometime people left in disgrace, in a box or, in a few cases, in bits. but there was no tradition of resigning at all. (pg 23)
It has been the cause of a number of homicides. (pg 26)
Play until full time, first man dead or first score. (pg 28)
So there were all those big battles. (pg 35)
The Dark War had engulfed Far Uberwald. (pg 36)
A leader who was not stupid, mad or dead. (pg 44)
Lord Vetinari forcibly insisted. (pg 52)
When a wizard who blinked died. (pg 54)
The used them to kill. (pg 58)
Any unreformed bloodsucker who tried to make a killing in the city would be hunted down by the people who knew exactly how they thought and where they hung out. (pg 59)
They came in thousands, like lice, killing everything and eating the dead, including theirs. (pg 60)
Unofficial evil wizards. (pg 82)
Big pole, spattered with red at the bottom. (pg 87)
The unofficial motto of the Lady Sybill Free Hospital was 'Not everybody dies'. (pg 97)
If it takes an Igor to bring you back, you were dead. Briefly dead, it's true, which is why the murderer will be briefly hanged. (pg 98)
The losing team was throttled. (pg 129)
Wizards exploding in a cloud of pomposity. (pg 198)
Selecting an Archchancellor. (pg 202)
Early blokes kicked a dead enemy's head around. Unlikely but...(pg 208/234)
Three dead languages, and the people who spoke them? (pg 223)
Just about every genuine battle between wizards has hitherto resulted in wholesale destruction. (pg 226)
Lord Vetinari is challenged very frequently. It's just that they don't win. (pg 228)
The Loko Business. (pg 228)
An expeditionary force into Far Uberwald. (pg 229)
Orcs all got killed off hundreds of years ago. (pg 271/277)
The battle of Orc Deep. (pg 281)
A lot of really interesting stuff happened under the Evil Emperor. (pg 284)
When King's fight Kings. (pg 284)
We used to fight dwarfs once. (pg 286)
Hen and Chickens Field. Where people were hanged. (pg 288)
All of the Orcs were hunted down after the war. (pg 309)
Pepe has done more damage with a broken champagne bottle. (pg 317)
It was a bloody war. (pg 321)
Mrs Atkinson, surely one of the most feared Faces who had ever wielded a sharpened umbrella with malice aforethought. (pg 327)
A terrible mining accident and a rather unusual rock slide. (pg 333)
Men killing one another and beasts tearing decent folks apart. (pg 368)
The arena of the Hippo, oceans of blood over the centuries. (pg 382)
Forgiveness is the name of Pastor Oat's double headed battle-axe. For Mister Oats the crusade against evil is not a metaphor. (pg 395)

The Undead

A Zombie who worked in the Kitchen (pg 37)
Charlie - Skeleton

You think it's all over?

Well yes. Yes it is. Unless we're going to penalties?

R 'offside' id

17 weeks ago @ Mark Reads - Mark Reads 'Unseen Aca... · 1 reply · +7 points

Death List 37.01b - Unseen Academicals

There's only one Death List 37.01b - Unseen Academicals! Ooooooonnnnnly one Death List 37.01b - Unseen Academicals!

It comes from a Doubleday HC of an 2009 vintage, playing a classic pg 9 to 400 formation. Let us commence the listing of death!

It is now!

Definitely died - on page

Nutt - whacked hard with a club (pg 94/97)

Definitely died - off page (ie referred to by someone)

Juliet Stollop's mother - dead (pg 12)
The previous Master of Traditions - dead for two hundred years (pg 23)
A senior director - from having his head from his head shut repeatedly in quite a small filing cabinet (pg 26)
Archchancellor Preserved Bigger's Bequest - dead then (pg 29)
Widow Crowdy's husband - dead (pg 50)
Three men - hanged last week (pg 58)
Evans the Striped - evaporated (pg 62)
Dave Likely - killed by The Dollies (pg 70/92)
Glenda's mother - luck to die with all her fingers (pg 104/106)
Charlie - he's dead (pg 139)
A person - head severed (pg 242)
An Orc - died (skull from the battle of Orc Deep) (pg 281/282)
Trev's mum - dead (pg 341)

Might have died

Bishop Horn realizing that alligator quiche was an unwise choice. (pg 191)

Uh oh. Looks like we're going into extra-time! Right after these messages from our sponsors!

34 weeks ago @ Mark Reads - Mark Reads 'Making Mon... · 0 replies · +9 points

Death List 35.01b - Making Money

Money! Get Away! Get a new death list right now and you're okay!


It's a brand new Collectors Edition list. That's gotta be worth investing in right? A 2007 Doubleday Hardcover investment, stretching the dollar from page 9 to 349.

The payoff starts... now.

Definitely died - on page

Mrs Topsy Lavish - known to be very ill. (pg 74)
Mr Morpeth - crossbow shot to the head from Cranberry (pg 88/178)

Definitely died - off page (ie referred to by someone)

Dyslexic Alphabet Killer - page 1 of the Tanty Bugle. Presumably hung. (pg 27)
Person A - victim of the Dyslexic Alphabet Killer. (pg 27)
Person W - victim of the Dyslexic Alphabet Killer. (pg 27)
Former Master of the Royal Mint - died at age ninety, of a schism of the heart. (pg 30)
Sir Joshua Lavish - died in his own bed, aged eighty, after a very large meal of devilled oysters. (pg 31)
Mr Shady 1-17 - hereditary foremen.
Man who made the eyebrow training machine - poisoned by Cosmo Lavish. (pg 111)
A couple of mysterious murders - had helped get Vetinari the Patricianship. (pg 111)
Boy in the hat shop - killed my Cranberry in a drunken brawl. (pg 113/116)
The brother of Cosmo's great-grandfather - pushed over the balcony. (pg 121)
Harry King's last clerk - caught fiddlin' (pg 150)
"Owlswick Jenkins" - hung. (pg 177)
A man - dying of fear as Cribbens prised out his teeth. (pg 183)
Professor Flead - the late Professor Flead. (pg 198)
Charlie - he's been at the University for _ever_ (pg 213)
Fent - Professor Flead's concubine. Died more than 300 years ago. (pg 218)
Professor Cranberry - dead. (pg 307/312)
Ribcage Jack - kicked to death. (pg 307/312)
Mr Bent's mother - died. (pg 329)

Death toll?

The Tanty Bugle was noted for its coverage of murders (preferably 'orrible), trials, prison escapes, and the world that in general is surrounded by a chalk outline. (pg 27)
To get a job at the Mint you had to wait until someone died. (pg 40)
Things with the names of dead men on them. (pg 86)
Cosmo Lavish - Probably bought death when he needed it. (pg 89)
City of Um was in first war with the Ice giants. People most likely died. Subsequent wars too. (pg 198)
In Professor Flead's day you had to find your own corpse or make one. (pg 218)
The Umnians were quite creative in human sacrifice. (pg 221)
Dr Hans Forvold created a revolutionary living-brain extractor. (pg 246)
Assassins' School Scholarship boys got bullied. Some of them survived. (pg 303)
One of Vetinari's predecessors had people torn apart by wild tortoises. (pg 334)

The Undead

Mr Slant - zombie
Otto Chriek - vampire


You can take this one to the bank. Queries? Questions? I am sure to take an... interest.

R 'mintyfresh' id

42 weeks ago @ Mark Reads - Mark Reads 'Wintersmit... · 0 replies · +13 points

Death List 34.00b - Wintersmith

Tis the season! The season of debut electronic editions of Death Lists. Still. Past me was turning into quite the slacker. It's that most wonderful time of the year? With the freezing rain and the ice pellets and the oceans of slush[1] and the...

Uh... sorry... where was I? Ohright I was with the 2006 Doubleday Hardcover edition. With pages running from page 9 to 399.

Everybody dance now!

Definitely died - on page

Miss Treason - died on Friday, just past before six in the morning (pg 118/170)
Mr Tissot - he was dead (pg 248)

Definitely died - off page (ie referred to by someone)

Roland's mother - is dead (pg 344)
a man - the Wintersmith is freezing the sweat on a dying man, lost in a terrible blizzard (pg 357)

Death toll?

Witches drowned or burned in the past. (pg 52/56)
Petulia has sat up with the dead and dying. Some humans. (pg 154/155)
People died. It was sad, but they did. (pg 155)
Tiffany sitting up with the dead and the dying. (pg 162)
The war in Klatchistan. (pg 262)
When Anoia was a volcano goddess. It was good work apart from the screaming. (pg 263)
Lots of poor seamen got drownded. They hit an iceberg in the fog. (pg 312)
No man has ever gone over the Lancre falls and lived to tell the tale. Except for Mr Parkinson. (pg 331)
The Wintersmith is a gale wrecking ships, freezing pipes in a snowbound town... (pg 357)
Roland's ancestors had come to own the Chalk by killing the kings who thought they did. (pg 357/358)
The Underworld. Dead when you shouldn't be and there's no place to go. (pg 360)
The Queen of Fairyland has pets that feed you dreams until you die. (pg 368)

Is it spring yet?

R 'listsmith' id

[1] Band name.

49 weeks ago @ Mark Reads - Mark Reads 'Thud!': Pa... · 0 replies · +10 points

Death List 34.00b - Thud!

It looks like it's fresh lists all the way down now. At least past me managed to write this one down already? Leaving this preamble to come hot off the press(ing of keyboard) and stumble back into the light. We are, as is the way amongst out people, numbering from a Doubleday Hardcover, this time coming from 2005. Pages running from 9 to a respectable 362.

Into the Listing Dark...

Definitely died - on page

Gunder Ironcrust - killed with an axe (pg 169)
another two dwarfs - killed with an axe (pg 169)
Lars Legstrong - throat cut (pg 173)
a deep dwarf - stabbed with an ice knife by Wilikins (pg 223)
another deep dwarf - incinerated by a dragon / exploding flamethrower (pg 226)
once more a deep dwarf - suicide (pg 230)
Helmclever - died of fear andor guilt (pg 262/263)
a dwarf - very dead, stalagmite had formed (pg 323)
deep dwarf guard - exploding flamethrower (pg 325)
the slowest four deep dwarf guards - went down to the axe and the sword (pg 326)
B'hrian Bloodaxe - died in the caves (pg 345)
Diamond King of Trolls - died in the caves (pg 346)

Definitely died - off page (ie referred to by someone)

Methodia Rascal - Born, painted famous picture, thought he was a chicken, died (Pg 26)
Lance-Constable Horace Hitherto - walloped on the back of the head (pg 149)
Garg Hamcrusher - killed with a mining hammer by another Garg (pg 256)
Sybil's late aunt - she's a late aunt (pg 281)

Might have died

a troll - Chrysoprase said it would not be a problem making sure Vimes never laid eyes on him again, and indicated a small box (pg 111)
two more deep dwarf guards - Vimes whirled the sword around in a circle (pg 326)

Death toll?

Discussions on the vexed area of turf issues by the Shamlegger Street Rude Boys with the young men from Rope Street. (pg 12)
Koom Valley Days in Ankh-Morpork - there had been some deaths. (pg 32)
Sally's family had a history of throat-biting. (pg 53)
Koom Valley - There have been 15 or 16 battles referred to by that name. (pg 142) The first battle, interrupted by a thunderstorm, a flash flood full of boulders. (pg 235) Dead dwarfs cremated at the end of the valley. (pg 278) Hundreds of dwarfs and trolls swept up in famous flood and many had never been found again (pg 295) The dwarfs and trolls now covered by stalagmites and stalactites.
Cockbill St stopping the territorial agression of the Pigsty Hill Dead Marmoset Gang. (pg 229)
Sybil's great grandmother once cooked, personally, a full dinner for eighteen in a military redoubt that was entirely surrounded by bloodthirsty Klatchians. Her grandmother defended the embassy in Pseudopolis against a mob. (pg 281)
Visitors to Koom Valley. (pg 305/306)

The Undead

Otto Chriek - Vampire
John Smith (aka Count Vargo St Gruet von Vilinus) - Vampire
Sally (aka Salacia Deloresista Amanita Trigestatra Zeldana Malifee... von Humperding) - Vampire


R 'Where's my List?' id