en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/531458 Comments by dartax http://www.the912project.com/vent-14/#IDComment28216422 Some of us believe that the constant beating of the racism drum actually keeps racism alive. Politicians use it to get votes. Others beat the drum to get attention, whether media or simply from their peers. Yet even others beat the drum because it is profitable, they earn their wages by beating the drum of racism. I am really sick and tired of this drum. I am really disappointed that we have a President who get into it too. The President is supposed to represent the best of us, lead by example. Teach us to live above racism by living above it himself. And why is it that when he travels internationally, he puts down America so much and then to the Muslim community actually emphasizes his connection to their faith? Fri, 24 Jul 2009 14:23:28 +0000 http://www.the912project.com/vent-14/#IDComment28216422 http://www.the912project.com/vent-14/#IDComment28025235 I am afraid that it will pass, and only a few of those that voted for it will actually be out. Why? Because if it passes, all our arguments won't mean much anymore. They will be for naught because it will be too late. Instead, they'll get the votes because even if we vote them out, we won't be voting for people to actually remove the program. Once it is in, we are stuck. And with the victory, so will go the next "free" market all for the "benefit" of Americans. Actually, I almost hope it passes. It will be the absolute worst thing for America, but too many Americans believe otherwise. And if they are afraid of the large health care bill, then they want some small piece of it. But you cannot take a piece and believe that we'll never be asked to take the rest. It will just come later as we grow more accustomed to more government control. Thu, 23 Jul 2009 01:31:23 +0000 http://www.the912project.com/vent-14/#IDComment28025235 http://www.the912project.com/vent-14/#IDComment28023853 We can see Obama as the tip of iceberg drawing all our attention. Obama is a problem. Obama is not the real problem. We need to educate America. Not about Obama the President or Obama the Organizer. What we need is for Americans to realize that they have to change if they want to treasure their freedoms. Getting a change in leadership won't matter if we don't reverse the changes we've been making in the way we think as a people. A smaller health reform can lead to socialized health care just as easily as a massive health care bill. The only difference is how fast we get there. So while we need action to save what freedoms we have now, we really need a program to compliment Glenn's to educate the people. Education on what a free market brought us from light bulbs, to cars, to computers, and even solar technology. Thu, 23 Jul 2009 01:15:19 +0000 http://www.the912project.com/vent-14/#IDComment28023853 http://www.the912project.com/vent-14/#IDComment27955725 All this talk of how getting Obama out of office for not being a natural-born citizen will reset things? I don't believe getting Obama out of office will reset things. Maybe buy a few years. The problem isn't Obama. Oh, he's at the front of it right now. The problem is Americans. We, the people, have become so entrenched in the idea that government should fix, regulate, and control so much to make things "perfect" in America that just changing one President will change nothing. Sort of like this health bill. Even if the health bill doesn't go through in all its awful, and government controlling form, imagine if a lesser bill gets passed. It would only take us a step closer. If a smaller government influence in health care doesn't work, then you can expect that people will try more government control in a few more years. We'll get to universal health care because we have already been doing this step by step. The only difference is someone is trying to accelerate things right now. Government is already involved in health care (even your care by private insurance). Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:18:14 +0000 http://www.the912project.com/vent-14/#IDComment27955725 http://www.the912project.com/vent-14/#IDComment27764811 Government wants a welfare state. A welfare state creates job security for those that support continuing the welfare programs. Those on welfare will vote for politicians that continue to take from those that have to give to those that have not. Add in a few of us that then wish we had, and those will also vote that way in hopes that some of it will filter our way. Next, you have the weeping hearts that don't have money themselves so it is easier to vote for politicians to take from those that have to give it to those that have not. In short, the more people dependent on government, the more job security the politicians have. Of course, what the politicians won't tell you is that this all very, very bad for America's economic future. Do it enough, and we'll all be the people without and few and far between will be anyone who has anything that the government can take to redistribute to, well, everyone. Did you know that before government welfare, there used to be private welfare programs? Mon, 20 Jul 2009 13:47:27 +0000 http://www.the912project.com/vent-14/#IDComment27764811 http://www.the912project.com/vent-14/#IDComment27714261 I think part of the effort to drive federal taxes up is to drive state revenues down. By driving down local and state revenues (and we are already seeing this in many states), you create more dependence on the federal government for financial aid, loans, funding, whatever. In essence, by destroying the economic revenue of the states by increasing taxes, it will become harder for the states to consider secession. They won't be able to afford it on their own. And, economically, with historic precedent from the civil war, I don't think Texas will be allowed to seceed. The more and more things are going in America, the more and more I think it is the right thing for a state to leave the union, the more and more I don't think it will be allowed to happen. Mon, 20 Jul 2009 01:11:23 +0000 http://www.the912project.com/vent-14/#IDComment27714261 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=2331#IDComment26423993 I agree with this. Thank your United States government. Whether the government actually has a direct hand in the current hikes or not, figure this: they will be under new regulation that goes into effect soon that will government even more control over their ability to charge fees and raise rates. The people that run these credit card companies are often smarter than the politicians. They know that stay afloat when government starts controls their finances they have to have in place already the means to bring in enough money to handle all the expenses they will incur under even more government regulation. You WILL be paying for all those with bad credit because the government will refuse to let card companies penalize those bad customers instead. Mon, 6 Jul 2009 00:14:17 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=2331#IDComment26423993 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=2331#IDComment26421930 Their own self-interest can be used against them. Don't believe me. Not too long ago a Republican made the news because he switched to Democratic party. Why did he switch? A poll just before that showed he wouldn't even make it as the Republican candidate for his position in the next election. He switched in the hopes that he could save his "bacon." Everyone keeps talking about voting these people out of office. That may be too late. Those that are involved in the two dominant parties should make sure that the polls now start reflecting this. You might even see them suddenly have a "revelation" of common sense while still in office because as much as they believe in socialism they will often still march to the beat of capitalism when it is directly applied to them. Sun, 5 Jul 2009 23:29:18 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=2331#IDComment26421930 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=2331#IDComment26410363 They do polls to see what chances they have of even making the ticket for their party in the next election? I thought that is why one Republican switched to Democrat is because he saw a potential end for his political future. I wonder how many Republicans and Democrats would straighten out and actually represent Americans if the polls all showed that they wouldn't even make it on the ticket for reelection? Perhaps many of these "socialists" would show true capitalist hearts if their political future were at stake? Sun, 5 Jul 2009 20:20:44 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=2331#IDComment26410363 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=2331#IDComment26409173 If all of America were like the people whose comments I read here, then I would think we deserve our freedoms. When I listen to the news and hear of people who approve with great applause our president while in other polls dissapprove of the very policies he supports (and campaigned on frequently too), I begin to wonder what sort of sheep we've become as a people. I begin to wonder if we'll repeat history (live under tyranny and lose our freedoms) in order to wake up as a nation. I think of Germany and World War 2. I think of the communist revolution in Russia. The Iron Curtain came down. Hitler's Empire was destroyed. As a nation, we assume it cannot happen here and thus in the very act setup the conditions for it to happen right here. Will we become the next Germany? Sun, 5 Jul 2009 20:04:17 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=2331#IDComment26409173 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=2331#IDComment26408828 Perhaps the freedom of speech attacks have already begun but are being kept out the media where we can learn of it. Personally, July 4th was only yesterday as of my typing this reply. Why don't you wait and see this next week what sort of coverage it gets. I know the United States is headed for destruction of our liberties, but why do we have to be so quick in our judgements? Isn't this the same sort of thinking that is pushing Cap & Trade as well as socialized medicine down our throats? Isn't this the same sort of thinking that is behind a legislature that doesn't even read the bills they pass because they have to make snap judgements? Fox News has to know that they will be attacked and lose their freedom of speech soon. It is not in the interest of tyranny (government) to allow freedom of speech. Sun, 5 Jul 2009 19:57:11 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=2331#IDComment26408828 http://theglennbeck912project.com/2009/07/04/74-colin-powell-finally-questions-the-obama-agenda/#IDComment26408074 My wife is considering some government program to help with her student loan. She is right that her student loan is only legally bound to her as it was from before our marriage. She is also right that financially it is going to be a significant drain on our finances (it has been defurred until now). I fear that it would only become something that will bind her to the government and their terms. I told her that she would become dependant on the politicians who sponsor and support that special program and all the baggage that will come with them, usually with subsequent loss of other freedoms. The only difference is whether I pay it in taxes to the government should she default (program seems designed to encourage this as I see it) or whether I make sacrifices to pay it back for her without government "assistance." And, yes, I am currently "the bread winner" for our family, working hard on an incomplete college education and no college loans of my own. I will not force her hand in this matter because then I would see myself as no better than the government has become. Sun, 5 Jul 2009 19:42:08 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/2009/07/04/74-colin-powell-finally-questions-the-obama-agenda/#IDComment26408074 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1701#IDComment22455099 No Wed, 27 May 2009 21:59:47 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1701#IDComment22455099 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment22043830 It looks like you have gotten some interesting responses here. I haven't read them all. I nned to go to work very shortly for the day, so I don't have time to read further. I think that I heard god best defined as what is the center of your life? A lot of us claim that we believe in Christ or some other higher power, but if you break it down you might find that they worship the all-mighty dollar. You might find me being a bit sarcastic here on the subject. Think of it this way, we have a lot of politicians that seem more interested in power, money, or simply getting reelected than in their values and principles. So, whatever they claim is their God, reality seems to tell us what their god really is. While I am christian, and active in my faith, I don't see any problems with anyone who acknowledges their faith and is committed to principles and values even if they belong to no religion. Fri, 22 May 2009 13:34:15 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment22043830 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21893672 It could be that they know very well what TX and Ronald Reagan economics does. However, what those policies don't do is give them power. Power over the American people. We don't turn over our freedoms and have to rely on them hand and foot when the government steps back and reduces taxes and spending. Smaller government has less power. Plus, that sort of economics, while successful, also is based on the idea that the people know best. We are talking about a political structure that has taught the few, the elite, that only those with certain policies or education (progressive) know what is best. Personally, I agree with Ronald Reagan and TX economics. Less government is better. Let the people succeed. But, because if we have success, then there must be the freedom to fail too,... now we have a government determined to take away failure and thus by default they will CRUSH success. Wed, 20 May 2009 10:47:06 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21893672 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21855512 I think too many are missing the real issue on whether Obama is a natural citizen that has legal right to be our President. He is the President, and very popular apparently at that too. While I hope he's a legal candidate, here's my two concerns. First, his sealing of the records is actually better for us if he is in fact inelligible. If it were revealed that he was not a true natural born citizen, then I would fear that his records would be released when appropriate to further destroy our constitution, such as after he was reelected by popular vote or just prior to an illegal immigrant running for President in the future. So, if he is illegal, pray that the records stay sealed. Second, citizen or not, he isn't passing these policies alone. The only difference it would possibly make is how far and deep the corruption in Washington DC runs. So attacking his citizenship doesn't do anything to change what government as a WHOLE is doing. Wed, 20 May 2009 00:05:43 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21855512 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21792932 "How can he claim to be with us when he runs away as soon as it gets a little hot???" It is easy to expect this of someone else. I used to think something similar. Now I reevaluated a bit ago my ease of looking to others and trying to make them responsible. What did I come at? Easy. I decided I needed to take responsibility first. After I take responsibility, then I can only ask that others take responsibility. So if I sound like a politician because I don't want to pin Glenn Beck's feet to the floor, then I will take that as a compliment--never thought I would ever find that to be a compliment. As I see it, if he were a politician and wasn't taking responsibility then it would be my responsibility to let my voice (and vote) speak up. Not his responsibility, but mine. Tue, 19 May 2009 01:39:14 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21792932 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21790134 As for the US being in a sad, sad state, I knew that already. We see the apathy of the people all day long it seems. Our leaders promise certain leadership and vote for them despite it because we want to "make history." Our leaders get caught lying, embezzling, and all sorts of stuff and we reelect them because they tell us that they have our interests on their agenda. As a people, we voted in this super majority and only afterwards do we begin to wonder if socialized healthcare might be a problem. Or, my goodness, with a recent massive stimulus bill under Bush, we elect our next government based on those who said it was good and may not have been enough. Only after they then rush through another, bigger stimulus package do we wonder if everyone is spending too much and if government is gaining too much control. When will we take responsibility for our choices. I know I didn't vote for our president, but when I can I write as if I did because I think that as a people we need to take responsibility for our choices. Sorry for venting like this. I guess I read your comment and it sort of resonated with me. Tue, 19 May 2009 00:32:30 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21790134 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21788299 By having the 9-12 Project be a project of the people, it actually makes us more elusive for progressives to attack. They cannot just attack Glenn Beck, because he immediately turned the 9-12 Project loose to fail or succeed without him taking a direct leadership role. I really have no idea of his reasoning. It could be that he's just "a puppet" like you claimed. I would not want to put a ton of effort into pushing a people to save themselves. I would want them to earn it for themselves. I would want us, the people, to find not just one leader, but a group of them. Many leaders that we can trust. To stand up as people and exert the right to govern ourselves instead of someone else telling us what we should do. So I really don't care what Glenn Beck is doing in relation to the 9-12 Project. I might like it when we, the people, get airtime on his program, as well as our agendas. Still, the issue isn't what he does. I could be wrong, but I think he doesn't want to be "our politician." So it really doesn't matter what Glenn Beck is doing. What matters is what we do from here. Mon, 18 May 2009 23:45:50 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21788299 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21788285 I think your statement may or may not actually show intelligence on the part of Glenn Beck. Here's how I see it. If Glenn Beck stays in charge and directs the 9-12 Project, he would be attacked as the leader of a radical movement. Progressives would could pin him up and "crucify" him in the media. Find and sling up all the filth from his past. Make him look like a modern Hitler. Whatever it took to muddy those of us who "followed" him. It would also push him out of the media as a radio and television host and into politics. In other words, to keep us from recruiting people from the ranks of Republicans, Democrats, and Independents, Glenn Beck would be made a public enemy by mainstream media. Mon, 18 May 2009 23:45:09 +0000 http://theglennbeck912project.com/?page_id=1566#IDComment21788285