This is exciting news! Let's hope the casualty counts continue to mount as one group of fundamentalist nutcases attacks another.
We continue to give billions to the Pakis to "fight terrorism". What is wrong with this picture? The real power in Pakistan is in the hands of the ISI that actively supports the Taliban and other fundamentalist groups. In other words, US Dollars are being used to finance the killing of American and Allied troops. This is unimaginably sick and has to stop. Is anyone in Washington listening? I somehow doubt it.
The Pakistani constitution clearly states that laws are derived from the Qur'an and this is a sympton of that. We should expect nothing less from our "ally".
A single statement by this guy in 2004 is your response? He refers only to acts that occur in "Dar al Islam" and says nothing abut all the other attacks around the world. What did he say about 9/11? Has he publicly repudiated and chastised the Chief Cleric for his intolerant and racist remarks? Your argument is weak and I remain unconvinced. You will have to do better than that by a long shot to make a plausible case for your contention.____Furthermore, you inherently weaken your argument and reinforce objections to your original statement by your choice of examples and later decision (above) to engage in petty insults. Trying to flatter anyone here at the expense of others is pointless and detracts from any possibility of reasoned discourse.
Unfortunately, we do not hear or see these things and your simply stating them as fact, unsupported by any evidence, does not reassure or assuage one’s doubts. If there is a school of Islamic jurisprudence that roundly condemns attacks on non-Muslims and actively promotes cooperation and peaceful coexistence, please identify such and point out in detail the teachings.
In other words, put up or shut up.
I will take up the gauntlet. Make no mistake, there is much anger and frustration expressed here and many do comment with little or no perception other than to spew vitriol. There are, however, fundamental questions in the minds of many that are not ever answered satisfactorily by any authoritative Muslim source. I for one have spent a great deal of time seeking such sources that effectively repudiate and condemn the actions of those we perceive as jihadists and have yet to encounter any.
Your measured words imply that such is easy to find; I entreat you to provide me some specifics. Many of us here and elsewhere would be relieved to hear that, for example, the chief cleric of the Grand Mosque in Mecca spoke of peace and the need to stop terror attacks in London last night or more importantly, in a speech broadcast throughout Saudi Arabia.
Mr. Abdi Hakim has eight children and is complaining about not being perceived as an Aussie? How many wives does he have in a monogamous country? Where do his children go to school and what are they learning? How much of an effort has he made to integrate himself into Australian socety?
Without answers to these questions, the reporter is doing a typically slipshod job of tossing quotes out of context that only harden perceptions and fuel prejudices. Is there a news service down under that would actually think of following up on one of these stories and turning over a few rocks?
Along those lines, does anyone know more about the Liberian girl in Phoenix, disowned for "shaming" the family because she was raped by four Liberian boys (ages 8, 9, 13 and 14). Sounds suspiciously like a familiar theme to me and the MSM is not reporting any affiliations.
The choice is ever clearer: Do something and learn to live with oil at $500 a barrel or do nothing and see western civilization bred out of existence. Since "capitalists never look beyond the next day", our leaders will undoubtedly opt for temporal pleasures (and reelection), leaving our children and grandchildren to fight for their very existence or suffer greatly under the hateful jackboot of Nazism, er Islam.
I disagree with you on this. The idea of making these people suffer here is inordinately expensive. I don't really believe (and I am sure you don't either) in any nonsense about 72 virgins and beautiful boys. I do, however, believe in insisting that my tax money be used for a quick enforcement of the death penalty rather than a life of three hots and a cot for these scumbags at 80k yearly.
That said, let’s remember that Bush was no paragon of virtue; he and his coterie of wily operators led us into an unnecessary invasion of a state in which the majority beliefs of the population (Islam) are antithetical to democracy. When a state is Qur’an-based, “Iraqi Freedom” is an oxymoron and as President he should have known better.
Obama, however, is a true believer (and I am very worried about what those core beliefs may be). He wrote his autobiography after having accomplished nothing (shades of a certain 20th century German corporal); and thus far has pandered to some of the most ardent foes of democracy (Cairo and elsewhere); has told every person of color in the US that police are racist and stupid; and, has steadfastly refused to come clean about his academic and birth records.
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