en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/702445 Comments by courageouslover http://beyondgrowth.net/guru-criticism/the-dark-side-of-the-secret-reading-james-arthur-rays-sweat-lodge-disaster-through-a-magickal-lens/#IDComment41651991 Hi - thanks for your response. I totally agree with you about taking a look at the power that is presented from the stage at personal growth events. I do get a lot of value from these events, and they can serve a need. People are vulnerable and they don&#039;t know where to go. The failure, in my eyes, is that having been to a lot of these - trainers talk a lot about how this kind of breakthrough work can affect your relationships. While I&#039;ve seen that to some degree in folks who I have followed at these kinds of events, I think this is really the fatal flaw of this work. Let people have an experience - sky diving, breaking boards, sweatlodges, whatever ---- but then teach them how to be contribute to the people in their lives. Teach them how to be vulnerable with their words and their presence. You don&#039;t need 120 degree heat to do that. Feelings are hot enough. <br />Thanks - Michael Sherman - <a href="http://www.CourageousLovingNation.com<br" target="_blank">www.CourageousLovingNation.com<br</a> /><br /><br />Michael Sherman, MA, Imago Educator<br />Writer and Teacher<br /><a href="http://www.CourageousLoving.com<br" target="_blank">www.CourageousLoving.com<br</a> />michael@courageousloving.com<br />(845) 653-1097<br /><br />--- Tue, 3 Nov 2009 18:46:12 +0000 http://beyondgrowth.net/guru-criticism/the-dark-side-of-the-secret-reading-james-arthur-rays-sweat-lodge-disaster-through-a-magickal-lens/#IDComment41651991 http://beyondgrowth.net/guru-criticism/the-dark-side-of-the-secret-reading-james-arthur-rays-sweat-lodge-disaster-through-a-magickal-lens/#IDComment41593442 This is a great piece about a very sad situation. I got to meet James Ray on a flight several months ago, and I found him to be very accesable and very deep - and we got into some comments about Judaism and the Holocaust - and as someone who comes from that world - I found the discussion refreshing in that it went beyond the victim mode of my own people. I hope he takes some accountability, even seppuku as you suggest. I talk about in my blog today how, while I love sweatlodges, there is nothing that will sweat out your insides and your heart like being in a committed relationship. Michael Sherman - blog: <a href="http://tinyurl.com/yfzy4ho" target="_blank">http://tinyurl.com/yfzy4ho</a> Tue, 3 Nov 2009 05:38:13 +0000 http://beyondgrowth.net/guru-criticism/the-dark-side-of-the-secret-reading-james-arthur-rays-sweat-lodge-disaster-through-a-magickal-lens/#IDComment41593442