@Talal,
Self proclamation is the worst form of evidence

@Demsci
//And Allah seem very inactive since he introduced Islam, sending his last prophet now already 1400 years ago.//
Righto!!! Well put.
Regards

@dssc7
I think you want to miss the points I have raised. The university mentioned doesn't exist, the family name 'Upadhyay' isn't Bengali, the institute to which the Bengali translator apparently was a Director doesn't exist. And the English book itself the conclusions are all wrong, the usage 'Narshangsha' in AV 20:127:1 is an adjective not a noun and the same usage is found in RV X:64:3 and there it is not in future tense (something the author of that English text keeps on stressing).

@dssc7
//That is not lie, Ms Supriya. Open and read it. MUHAMMAD in the VEDAS and the PURANAS //
It is a definite lie invented by the fertile Muslims who will clutch to any straw to prove the divinity of their religion. Here are the OBVIOUS considerations:
1. Assuming this to be true do you accept that the Vedas and Purans are of divine origin? And therefore they are worth following as a divine scripture?

2. Have you verified that whether there is a Prayag University in Allahabad? The citation in your link reads: "RESEARCH SCHOLAR, SANSKRIT PRAYAG UNIVERSITY". There is a Prayag Sangeet Samiti in Allahabad, but no Prayag University!! Some people informally did refer to Allahabad University as Prayag Visvavidyalaya since Prayag is the ancient name of Allahabad. But never in a formal scholarly paper will you see a colloquial (and now forgotten) name being used. So does this person even existed?

3. Here is what you presented from a user called JaiHind from some forum. Note what is in bold.
Amazingly, the author of this book is a fair-minded, famous professor who happens to be a Hindu. His name is 1. Pandit Benda Prakash Upadhai and the name of his fact revealing book is Kalki Avatar. The author is a Hindu Brahmin by caste of 2. Bengali origin. He is a research scholar, a seeker of the Truth and a well-known Pandit in Allahabad University. After years of research work, 3. Pandit Vedaprakash published this book and eight other pandits have endorsed and certified his points of argument as authentic.
Now note the change in name from 1 to 3 (Benda becomes Ved), note also the use of 'pandit' instead of 'Dr' seen in the citation you have linked to and finally, Upadhyays aren't Bengali. It is a common Hindu Brahmin surname found mostly in north India (Mostly UP, Uttarakhand and MP) and Nepal, but never in the Eastern parts of India (not even in Bihar which is adjacent to UP, certainly never in Bengal).

4. In the second part of the Citation you have linked I find the mention : EX. DIRECTOR, SANSKRIT ACADEMY HOWRAH. Now there is no Sanskrit Academy in Howrah, West Bengal. In fact there never was. So what was this person directing?

5. And finally in the English Book by that name that is available in scribd: http://www.scribd.com/doc/53691335/Thesis-Muhamma...
, in the very first chapter we find (page 5) the first mantra of the Atharvaveda, canto 20, section127. In this mantra, a future tense is used in mentioningthe coming of Narashangsa.
Now here is an English translation of AV, Book 20, Chapter 127 <a href="http://(http://sacred-texts.com/hin/av/av20127.htm):" target="_blank">(http://sacred-texts.com/hin/av/av20127.htm): Listen to this, ye men, a laud of glorious bounty shall be sung. Thousands sixty, and ninety we, O Kaurama, among the Rusamas have received.. The chapter is in the praise of King Kaurama. There is no mention of this hypothetical Narshangsa in the whole chapter and in the first verse it has been correctly translated 'lauding the glorious man (Indra or Agni)'.

6. Narashangsha also appears in RigVed X:64:3 and NOT IN FUTURE TENSE: http://sacred-texts.com/hin/rigveda/rv10064.htm

So when we consider these last 5 points what do we get? Unraveling of a Muslim hoax!! :*
Try again. best of luck.

@TnKuK
//i thought that you are shameful//
And you are shameless :-)

//you can get oil from Russia if you didn't know anywaaaay //
Look at the map again. Only a fool will make a pipeline from Russia to Continental Europe that goes through Afghanistan. You keep on proving the obvious, that you know nothing about Geography or History and in fact even about Islam. Moreover if somebody has to target Russian oil, they will simply develop a good relationship with Russia just as they have developed a good working relationship the Middle East oil rich countries. I mean why will America destroy its own building, kill its own people and then hope that Bin Laden will hide in Afghanistan and then wage an expensive (and to a great extent hopeless) war doing further damage to its Army and reputation with the intention of making an oil pipeline from Russia to Western Europe???? America isn't even the ultimate beneficiary of the oil, which if we were to believe you, will be delivered to Europe!!! It is this lack of logical thinking that Islam fosters and Muslim minds lap up!!!!

//your looser kids game of playing the winner in the back of others//
Back of others? Hardly. I am responding back to your comment. You are not the sole reader. This is a public forum and I am sure there are more people reading this than us two. If you don't want to or are incapable of responding back, DON'T RESPOND.

//if i had time i will teach you what does Politics mean//
On the contrary please teach yourself world history, religious philosophies, languages etc. Your English is awful and if you do get some time please brush it up.

//because i know that you know that you aren't sure about your informations//
I am very sure about my information. Now that you say so, sample this:
1. This thread started with your suspecting Grace's opinion that Muhammad didn't marry a 6 year old. Proved wrong when she brought a Sahi Hadith from Bukhari.
2. You suggested that she might have attained puberty at 6 (or 9) years of age. However you couldn't prove it. The examples you brought were about kids who had an abnormality called Precocious Puberty. But you say Aisha wasn't abnormal. Also these kids have actually become pregnant which proved thatthey had attained puberty. Not so for Aisha though. So you were proved wrong again.
3. On being suggested a possible escape from the situation above that Muhammad might have been impotent during this phase of his life, you talked about the 7th Arabs being healthy and living till 100. However Muhammad lived till 62, and complained of weakness, headache and body pain so severe that he was bed-ridden and died. You couldn't give a good honest reply to this problem either.
4. You talked about Maria being a wife of Muhammad, but were proved otherwise. Something you accepted later.
5. You talked about only three marriages desired by Muhammad. But he married a dozen times and kept 4 concubines. A prove of his being a womanizer.
6. You brought a Quranic verse to suggest that Muhammad had only a limited number of marriages authorized, but a look into Tafsir Ibn kathir proved that : a) This verse has been abrogated by another verse, b) The explanation of this verse in itself actually allows Muhammad to marry as many times as he desired. So you were proved wrong again.
And I can give several more points we have touched here, but I will end with this point:
7. You said America purposefully destroyed WTC so that it can attack Afghanistan and the Europeans can make an oil pipeline running from Russia to Europe through Afghanistan. Even a primary school student who had some idea of the world map can see the flaws in this argument. All you could do was to escape from this debate:-)

//you will see in the future not now what does ISLAM mean //
No no, we already know what Islam means.

//and how much Muslims are brave//
We have already seen. And we are seeing it in Palestine and how the other Arab countries are behaving with regards to this aggression from Israel.

@YnKuK
//really you thought that it was like that i wonder who is the fool //
You off course. As you proved again with your following comment.

// i said that they have posibilities to distroy those plains//
Yes, but only if they knew beforehand that the planes were being hijacked with the plans of ramming them in the buildings. It is not that the terrorists have come out with front page declarations on the previous days about their plans!!

//you think that the american army waited the whole crash to be done then it claim =_=" srry i'm not enought fool//
Well you are, as explained above.

//but remember Bin laden was fighting Army so how could him hit people from all the world so keep it off //
Bin Laden was fighting no Army. At least not in 2001.

//and you are sayin 20 and 30 and i don't know between every crash and were was American army waiting the next or Making the next //
And how would they know that there were more and which ones would be the next? Allah didn't declare it in Quran did he? As I said when the first one crashed everybody thought that this was a problem with air traffic controls. The first one crashed at 8:45 am, the next one at around 9. The third one was on a completely different route crashing into Pentagon at around 9:35 am and the fourth one was forced landed in Pennsylvania at 10 am or so when the passengers fought with the hijackers.

//Yes i don't believe because JAPAN is democratic too but it forbide Islamic migration so don't think //
Japan is a very thickly populated country which desists immigration of all kinds not just Muslim. There is no official line which prohibits only Muslim migration. The situation is also helped by the fact that in Japan nobody sponsors illegal immigration the way it is supported by the Bangladeshis and Pakistanis like say in Italy, Portugal, Spain and France. It is a very interesting lesson that Japan is teaching the rest of the world.

//they could use it for their interrest like Drugs in the past and it will be a good road for Oil to Europe //
Drugs is for smugglers. All western countries have policies AGAINST drugs. And now another exposition of foolishness. Take the map of World, and take a close look, especially at Central and East Asia. How do you think Afghanistan will be good 'road' for carrying OIL to Europe. Where will these oils coming from? Tibet? Utter Foolishness!!! At least think before you propose such things!!!

// you are wasting your time the truth is a truth even if you didn't like it //
Yes it is true that you are a fool and I am wasting my time to show you some logic.

//And goodbye don't open another debate because i won't answer because i will close my email so i can't get News from this website//
Good decision. I don't think you are capable enough to add anything positive. Your 'cover' of goody-goody Islam has now fallen and we know the real you. Anti-semitic, anti-democratic Muslim of the same ilk that forms groups like Hamas and ISIS.

// i have a last word wich will come in the end Goodbye //
Get lost. And please shut the door behind you. Regards

@TnKuK
//Ha ha do you think that America haven't a strong army//
Nobody puts an army inside a passenger airliner. You are a fool to even suggest that.

//Bin laden did this and he distroyed only places wich contain foreigners and the camera was there//
Again propaganda material. Who told you only foreigners were killed? Remember that there was also an attack on Pentagon where 55 military personal died along with 70 civilians. In the World Trade Center people from 90 countries died, but roughly 2200 of the 2606 victims were American citizens including 350 odd firefighters!!

//and the camera was there and it was HD waw ( Hd of 2001 )//
I saw the images live on TV unlike you who gets second hand reports. There were no video to start with and it is possible that fake videos have been created and circulated FOR THE FIRST HIT. But there were thousands of eye witnesses on lower Manhattan who SAW the planes hit the tower. Now the second plane hit a good 20 minutes after the first one and the TV channels were already on it. The second hit was therefore captured by quite a few news agencies, BBC, CNN, MSN et al. In fact my initial reaction was that this was a traffic control problem, but it was the second hit which first gave us the idea that it was something else, deliberate and well planned. We had 2 more incidents after 30 minute intervals. An attack on Pentagon and then another crash in Pennsylvania.

//why didn't the presiden't kicked out Muslims //
Because a democracy recognizes existence of religions separate from different political positions. That is the beauty of democracy but you won't understand. In fact just think why if the American were anti-Muslim under the sway of some Jewish group they have allowed Muslims to settle in the first place?

//and it was done to get the support from all the world//
For what? To attack Afghanistan? To get what? Afghanistan doesn't produce Oil or anything worth attacking for!!! As far as Oil rich countries in the Middle East is concerned America was and still is the largest importer of their oil. It doesn't make sense at all for America to attack Afghanistan for Oil. And do you have any evidence of what you are claiming other than anti-American canards?

// i'm not a fool to believe what you are believing //
But you are a fool to believe what you are believing.

@TnKuK
//They said that it was a plane and it was not it was a 'missile' //
They not only said, they actually showed it happening!! Al-Jazeera showed Bin Laden claiming responsibility for it.

//and if you don't know then don't talk about it and it was a plot okay and i know it well //
It is now pretty clear that you are just a gullible fool who believes everything that the propagandist pass on to you be it the secret Jew elements causing distress to your governments or the 9/11 conspiracy theories. To you the Islamist are innocent, since to you the life of non-Muslims is worth nothing. In the vision of Islam others are the worst of creatures and deserve to die in the path of Allah.

@TnKuK
//as terrorist because they support killing of Kids in Palestine //
Nobody supports killing of kids in Palestine. Israel is being pushed by all countries from the West to ceasefire. On the other hand it is Hamas which is rejecting every peace initiative being forwarded by Egypt, for example. It is Hamas which is firing the missiles from school tops and from near hospitals provoking Israel to return fire by fire.

//Islamist kicked America then it's an enemy of the west so it's a terrorist i hate this it's injustice//
Isn't it surprising that while you think America and the West don't like the Muslims, most Muslims flock to these very countries!! How will you solve this paradox?

//whe you look at his look at his as a Human not according to his religion okay//
Ha ha. By the same logic, Buddhism prohibits violence so you shouldn't put the blame of the killings on the Buddhists :-). Here we see the classic doublespeak. In fact this wasn't Buddhist vs Muslim at all but an ethnic riot between the settlers Rohingya and the native Rakhine peoples. But you saw it as between Muslims and Buddhists and since it were the Rohingya who were outnumbered and massacred at a large scale you don't want to see the real reason why the riot started.

//And jews don't want to comeback you want me to give them 20 milion to comeback pff i don't need them//
How can they? Do you have the greatness of heart to accept them as your brother? No. You will participate in killing them. As you said you don't need them.