en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/762884 Comments by cas5362 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/christian-invaders-the-turnaround__trashed/#IDComment68448543 Thursday’s lecture was the first time I ever really felt like I could relate to muslims living in Iraq. Sam was really able to make the class relate to people we will never meet with whom we have waged a war against. I never really thought about the fact that the oil in their country should be theirs and that the American government has invaded specifically to take control over another land’s oil. I honestly just felt awful for these people after the lecture. I felt bad for the fact that these people are entirely innocent and that the vast majority of them are not radicals. I had never thought of comparing the radical muslims to the radical Christians that we have in this country. It was the first time I was ever really able to place myself in their shoes and understand what they go through with us invading their country. It was mind blowing to consider the atrocities that they’ve had to face because of the United States’ Army being on their land. I’ve always known about things such as Abu Ghraib having taken place and already felt guilty and angry towards the members of our military, but I never really considered the daily struggles these people go through. I could completely understand why people would ban together to fight back against the American people. It was the first time I could really understand the reasons behind why so many people hate America. Thursday’s lecture actually made me hate America, at least to some extent. We’ve done so many wrong things to other countries and the awful part about it is the pure ignorance that so many Americans have of these things. The government has become so good at shielding the American people from the reasons why we wage war and even after George W. Bush said, “we’re on a crusade”, it was as if the American people had no idea what he was talking about. Had they simply forgotten what crusade meant or had they never really known to begin with? It was odd though that even with the amount of time Sam spent focusing on the religious implications of the war; I spent my time more focused on the oil implications. I know that this was a reason for us to be over there, but I never realized just how strong of a reason it might have been in our decision to attack the Iraqi people. It seems entirely unfair. We would never sit around and just allow people to come onto our land to steal any of the natural resources that we have, and yet we see nothing wrong with doing this to another nation. In fact, we even create anger towards them as if we’re in the right and it is entirely fine to have invaded for their oil. Sat, 17 Apr 2010 04:18:10 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/christian-invaders-the-turnaround__trashed/#IDComment68448543 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/christian-invaders-the-turnaround__trashed/#IDComment68448816 Thursday’s lecture was the first time I ever really felt like I could relate to muslims living in Iraq. Sam was really able to make the class relate to people we will never meet with whom we have waged a war against. I never really thought about the fact that the oil in their country should be theirs and that the American government has invaded specifically to take control over another land’s oil. I honestly just felt awful for these people after the lecture. I felt bad for the fact that these people are entirely innocent and that the vast majority of them are not radicals. I had never thought of comparing the radical muslims to the radical Christians that we have in this country. It was the first time I was ever really able to place myself in their shoes and understand what they go through with us invading their country. It was mind blowing to consider the atrocities that they’ve had to face because of the United States’ Army being on their land. I’ve always known about things such as Abu Ghraib having taken place and already felt guilty and angry towards the members of our military, but I never really considered the daily struggles these people go through. I could completely understand why people would ban together to fight back against the American people. It was the first time I could really understand the reasons behind why so many people hate America. Thursday’s lecture actually made me hate America, at least to some extent. We’ve done so many wrong things to other countries and the awful part about it is the pure ignorance that so many Americans have of these things. The government has become so good at shielding the American people from the reasons why we wage war and even after George W. Bush said, “we’re on a crusade”, it was as if the American people had no idea what he was talking about. Had they simply forgotten what crusade meant or had they never really known to begin with? It was odd though that even with the amount of time Sam spent focusing on the religious implications of the war; I spent my time more focused on the oil implications. I know that this was a reason for us to be over there, but I never realized just how strong of a reason it might have been in our decision to attack the Iraqi people. It seems entirely unfair. We would never sit around and just allow people to come onto our land to steal any of the natural resources that we have, and yet we see nothing wrong with doing this to another nation. In fact, we even create anger towards them as if we’re in the right and it is entirely fine to have invaded for their oil. Sat, 17 Apr 2010 00:18:10 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/04/christian-invaders-the-turnaround__trashed/#IDComment68448816 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/what-about-multiracial-people__trashed/#IDComment65570380 In response to this person’s questions about which team he belongs to, I’d say it’s something that’s hard to judge. As Sam said in class, I feel like it has more to do with how you identify yourself rather than how others might perceive you. If you feel a stronger connection to the colored side of yourself than I believe this is the side that you should follow during the stages. However, as someone who is not entirely white myself, this can be hard to do. When looking at me, I have the whitest skin of most people that I know. I stay a porcelain color throughout the year regardless of the sun and yet my mother is half Cuban. My grandfather whom I was always closest to, was 100% Cuban and had much darker skin and certainly never appeared “white” in the way that I do. Even though anyone looking at me would say that I’m white and even Sam has not noticed any other ethnicities in me, it is still there. Not only is it there, but it is a big part of who I am. My mother is the person who raised me and she is mixed. Granted, she also looks far more “white” than her Cuban father, but it is something that we hold onto very dearly and is a large part of who I am. But considering the way that I was raised, and the schools I was brought up in that always saw me as just another white female, I’d have to say that I always respond to the things Sam brings up in class as a white person. More so because of my features than anything I feel inside, I still feel it would be inappropriate to look at myself as someone on the black, or brown team. Though this is where I have always been indentified and will continue to be identified, I still feel a connection and a guilt for the members of my family that are not nearly as “white” as I am and that have faced racism because of their darker skin color. I suppose what leads me to want to lean towards this black and brown side is my closeness with my family. Coming from a very large Cuban-German mixed family, I always saw both sides of things without even realizing it. No one in my family felt closer to one side of their ethnicity than the other. I’m not sure if this is a good thing, or a bad thing, but I think it’s important that they felt a strong sense of their identity as mixed as opposed to black, or brown, or white. I don’t feel as though placing everyone in their “boxes” as one specific race is doing anything to help the cause. Fri, 2 Apr 2010 16:09:39 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/what-about-multiracial-people__trashed/#IDComment65570380 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/in-her-own-words__trashed/#IDComment64282557 I found this video of Laurie to be really interesting. As a female, I have never once debated why it is not ok in public to speak about things such as periods, or “bleeding”, it is something I just have not done. This was the first time I have ever really considered why it is that women are seen as inappropriate for being honest about their bodily functions. I can think of numerous occasions where I had my mom call me out of school stating that I was sick because I had cramps that were so awful that I couldn’t move. Throughout the years I played basketball, I can remember sitting curled up on the bench not able to play because I felt like my body was exploding, but when the coach came up and asked what was wrong, I simply said I didn’t feel well. I wonder now what would have happened if I had just simply stated, “It’s my time of the month and I feel like shit”. Would he have been repulsed? Would he have ignored me and just walked away, or would he have been understanding and asked if I needed anything? It’s funny that the one topic of bodily functions that grosses most people out is also the most painful thing women experience on a monthly basis. Whether that be physically or emotionally, the “time of the month” as we call it, can be excruciating. I’ve often been in pain and wanted to actually speak up about it so that people understood why I was clenching my stomach, or why I was getting angry over nothing, or crying hysterically watching commercials, but people are just too weirded out by the conversation. Ever since Sam brought it up in class, I’ve wondered, why is this? His explanations certainly make a lot of sense. This is in fact a man’s world, and I suppose there are certain things that men would rather not talk about. But even beyond that, it’s true that if it were more acceptable to talk about, then it would also be more acceptable for women to excuse themselves from activities, meetings, work, or classes. I understand how this can be seen as a problem considering that if every month hundreds upon thousands of women simply did not show up to things because of their cycle, but it still seems unfair to simply not recognize it as happening. It is something so clearly embedded into being a woman that it is somewhat baffling that people don’t talk about it more. Every month since I was 10 years old, I have spent one week in tremendous pain that only 800 mg of Advil and a heating pad can come close to solving, but even beyond that it always makes me an emotional wreck. For one week a month, or damn near a ¼ of my life, I’m in physical and emotional pain and I can’t even talk about it. I’ve never thought about it this way, but it’s slightly aggravating that I’m not supposed to talk about something that takes up that much time of my life. Sat, 27 Mar 2010 01:57:55 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/in-her-own-words__trashed/#IDComment64282557 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/does-this-rudeness-thing-cut-both-ways__trashed/#IDComment63034306 I agree that no one really seems to make comments when something is said that is rude about white people. We actually spoke about this in my discussion group and felt the same way. I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that white people are not allowed to be seen as victims. The majority of racial issues that were raised throughout history were caused by white people and I think that it has just made us feel as though we deserve whatever people say to us today. Though I agree with the aspects of white guilt, I do not think it’s fair to say rude, vulgar and offensive things to white people without any back lash from Sam or anyone else in the class. Before the break, when Sam first opened the first cell phone blog, I found a lot of the things people were saying to be offensive. Though I didn’t speak out and make any comments, I sat there in disbelief at the amount of things that people were saying that they would not have normally stated in other arenas. I cannot recall any of the vulgar statements, or racist remarks, but they were numerous. I was angered that people were both, not taking the assignment seriously, and that they felt the need to use Sam’s idea as a playground for their comments. Throughout the exercise, even Sam made a comment that he felt the white people in the class were taking it more seriously than the colored people… but I thought it was interesting that this was all he had to say about it. He made comments against white people saying the comments they were saying were awful and that they needed to be stopped but when the roles were reversed he simply stopped the exercise and shut it down. Though, I entirely agree that the comments were getting outrageous and white people were also saying awful things, I didn’t think that it was fair to not say these comments both ways. Maybe it really is just simply white guilt that prevents us from being able to stand up and say that these racist comments go both ways, but I do see it as unfair. I have guilt for the things that have happened to other people in this country and throughout the world. Especially those that were caused by white people, but I do not think that this means that we should simply sit back and allow these comments to go unnoticed. We’re simply saying that it is ok to be racist against white people for the actions of our ancestors, but how dare white people say anything racist towards another culture. How does this teach acceptance and equality? We’re just allowing it to continue further. Fri, 19 Mar 2010 20:54:50 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/03/does-this-rudeness-thing-cut-both-ways__trashed/#IDComment63034306 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/whats-with-the-theme-parties__trashed/#IDComment59805106 I’d have to say that I agree with the numerous posts that I read in response to this. I am a white person and I have never once been to a theme party that I felt was racist in any way, or that was aimed to make fun of any specific race. Some of the theme parties that I have been to were Christmas sweater parties, be creative parties (where I wore a pot on my head and called myself a “pot head”), and Halloween parties which are obviously themed around costumes. I have never found any of these parties to be racist in any way towards a specific group of people. Maybe I’m just being overly-sensitive, but I’m actually offended by the accusation. Sometimes I feel like people hear about one party that a group of white kids may have had and then automatically assume that this happens everywhere, all the time and with all groups of white kids. I honestly don’t know if this is the case, but I cannot imagine that this girl has ever attended a “white theme party” because none of the ones that I have been to seemed to go along with her findings. The only parties I have heard of that could have been seen as prejudiced would be the numerous Jersey Shore parties that took place last semester. I never actually attended any of them, but couldn’t Italians consider these to be prejudiced against them? I mean if we’re really looking for prejudiced, it can be found just about anywhere. The racism that this girl is talking about does not even have to deal with theme parties at all. Even within my own apartment I have felt people’s prejudices against me for being white. I am the only girl within my apartment that is white in any way shape or form (though I am not entirely white, but still look extremely pale and therefore people assume I must be white). Whenever my roommates have chosen to throw a party at our apartment, I am more often than not the only “white” girl at the party. I have no problem with this and I usually walk around and attempt conversations with anyone I see, but I notice that as I’m doing this, the black men, specifically, at the parties do not even acknowledge me. I have walked into my own apartment, noticed a room full of guys, said, “hey, what’s up? How are you guys?” and received no response. Not even that, but sometimes they haven’t even looked at me. No smile, no gestures of hello, nothing. But no one ever seems to notice this, and no one seems to care. Is that simply because I’m white so it’s ok? I don’t get it. Racism goes both ways. Thu, 4 Mar 2010 23:19:23 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/whats-with-the-theme-parties__trashed/#IDComment59805106 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/when-do-we-do-or-say-something__trashed/#IDComment58906436 I completely agree with the statements made by these two students. I think it is a tad outrageous to say that you would allow injustice to occur in front of you and do nothing because it’s someone else’s store and they have the right to refuse service to anyone they want. Can anyone here really say that they wouldn’t stand up for themselves if someone refused them service? Well this is the exact same situation just for someone else. Is it that difficult to put yourself in someone else’s shoes? If you would do it for yourself then why not do it for someone else? Are we really that selfish as humans? I mean that’s the only way this makes sense to me. We’re so quick to help ourselves and so much less likely to help someone else. I hate knowing that about people. The fact that someone can be in need of help and people will just keep quiet and not offer anything is appalling. I thought it was really interesting though that this week, Sam was talking about how our perceptions change depending on who we are in a certain situation. He was talking about the way different people viewed the 22 people in the store that said nothing. I never really thought about how certain people might think that it meant they’re prejudiced themselves and how others felt that it meant they just didn’t want to say something. I’ve never thought about it that way, but it makes sense. Like how Sam said that people of color would prefer to live in the south as opposed to the north because at least racism is in front of their faces and no one’s hiding anything. I’ve never really thought about it that way. Do people really prefer things to be right in front of their faces like that? It never really crossed my mind. In my past, I knew a kid that was extremely supportive of Nazism. He sat in front of me one time ranting about how he wanted to kill the Jews and burn them to hell and then praised Hitler for all of his ideals. I may not be Jewish, but my Dad is and my Jewish grandfather fought during WWII and I was horrified by him saying this to me. I had to leave the room, in actual fear of this kid. I’d have to imagine that’s what it would be like being a black person in the south sometimes. I can’t imagine preferring that to here. Is being openly racist really a good thing? Is it really something that you should prefer to deal with? Maybe it’s just me, but I certainly wouldn’t prefer it. And I certainly wish that when this kid was speaking to me that one of the numerous friends I had around me would have stuck up for me and said something to him about how he was disgusting and sick like some of the people in that video had done for the Muslim woman. I don’t care who owns the store… Sat, 27 Feb 2010 02:27:29 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/when-do-we-do-or-say-something__trashed/#IDComment58906436 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/men-and-women-were-really-this-different__trashed/#IDComment56981820 Ok, I have to admit, this article kind of made me start laughing hysterically. It’s scary for me to think of the fact that anyone out there would be willing to pay $7,000 for a sex toy. A robot that they hope one day will talk about NASCAR and politics? I never assumed anyone wanted a sex toy that would talk back to them during normal hours of the day. Maybe it’s because I’m a woman, but I just don’t understand the appeal of a sex toy companion. Real life people sound a lot more exciting. To me, this just seems like another alternative people have to REAL LIFE. Think about how many people will stop searching for real life interaction if they have something at home that will never ague with them, that will have any sort of communication with them that they desire and that never says “no” and really means it. I mean, really, how closed off do we need to become from technology before enough is just enough? However, I guess I do see the practical uses of this. It makes sense that anyone in sex therapy might find the product useful. I also agree with another post that I read which discussed using these for people convicted of sex crimes as a way of keeping them away from real life people. Also, I guess, older, and lonelier men and women could benefit from the use of a Roxxxy if they’ve simply given up hope on ever finding a companion, but I just don’t see the use. People have survived for thousands of years without the use of a lifelike sex doll and there is no need for one now. The desire allows for the thing to still be made, but anyone who has the desire to spend $7,000 on such a device needs a little psychiatric help if you ask me. I mean if people still want to use sex toys for fun, or whatever use they have, why not spend a lot less money and opt for a vibrator for a woman or a fleshlight for a man? Making these toys so lifelike is just scary. Everyone in the world could own their own doll and no one would have the need to deal with the hassles of relationships. There would be no yelling or screaming, but there would also be no real passion. There would be no one to hold you when you cried, or comfort you when you’re lonely. I mean all the BENEFITS of real life relationships would be missing from this “fantasy” of Roxxxy. I guess it’s just me, but I sort of wish things like this were never even created. Then people would have to find real life solutions to loneliness. Mon, 15 Feb 2010 22:20:15 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/men-and-women-were-really-this-different__trashed/#IDComment56981820 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/animals-vs-humans-vs-welfare-cheats__trashed/#IDComment55972211 I am disgusted at hearing what Governor Bauer had to say about those on welfare. It is not as if people choose to be poor and are happy to have no money. The simple fact is that welfare was created to help people in NEED. Therefore, it should be going to people with little money; including those with large families. If these businessmen and women, and political officials actually considered what living on welfare was really like maybe they would gain some perspective. Is it possible to have them switch lives with someone on welfare for a week? I honestly doubt they would even survive. The sad truth is that once you are in the lower classes and do not make significant amounts of money, the opportunities that come your way are minimal. Without money, how are you supposed to achieve a higher education to make more money? These politicians act as if being on welfare makes you an unintelligent and lazy individual. In reality, it could mean just the opposite. It could mean that you’re forced to work low paying jobs because you couldn’t afford a college education and that you’re raising a family. Calling any human being an “animal” is barbaric. Especially considering their reasons for being on welfare may not have been within their control. I was unaware that welfare subsidies go to the wealthy in this country. I’m angry that this is actually possible. Why don’t politicians seemed concerned about the fact that money which was originally created to aid the poor is going to people that are already wealthy? It seems to me that the rich just keep getting richer and the poor keep getting poorer. Through lobbying, there seems to be a way to mangle any situation in order to get more money for people who already have more than most. Huge media giants lobby every year in order to receive tax breaks and these are the same companies laying off more workers each year while giving their CEOs raises. I am at least pleased to hear that Senator Sheheen was equally as disgusted by Governor Bauer’s comment as I was. I do not care if he had a “slip of the tongue”, or misspoke; there is no excuse for the words that came out of his mouth. His apology is useless in my eyes considering I’m sure it was done only because of the backlash caused by his original words. The only real way he could apologize would be to live as those on welfare do to see how difficult it really might be; to see the way people treat and look at him as less of a man simply because he does not make enough money to support themselves. Once that happens, then his apology might actually have meaning. Tue, 9 Feb 2010 05:30:12 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/animals-vs-humans-vs-welfare-cheats__trashed/#IDComment55972211 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/avatar-and-the-white-mans-burden__trashed/#IDComment55545128 I find this post to be extremely interesting to me. When the movie Avatar first came out, I was entirely outraged by it for being a 20th Century Fox film, but I never thought about any of the social implications. I do not disagree with what Brooks has stated, but instead I consider it to be mostly true. In looking at several films just like this, his theory of the “White Messiah” certainly resonates throughout them all. It is not difficult to see how this plays a role within Avatar as well. However, I am a little concerned with how much we rely on these theories to explain away all of the findings within movies. I hardly believe that as James Cameron was making this film he sat down and said, “Now I want the white man to be the hero of this story and to save the people of color from the evil men”. Sometimes I feel that we’re reaching too deeply into why things are the way that they are and why movies such as Avatar were made. This movie was made for entertainment. It was made purely for entertainment and because it would make 20th Century Fox the most money. Also, the special effects drew a lot of viewers to buy tickets to see the movie. All of this considered, the findings of Brooks still hold true. When dissecting the movie the way that he has, it is still evident that his claims are certainly justified. I have to wonder though if this “White Messiah” thing is done on purpose or simply subconsciously. Do white men and women come up with these ideas on their own, or are the ingrained into their heads before they’ve ever considered the possibilities? Do they really find themselves to be the “heroes” if they’re really looking at a history of their ancestors? It seems to astonish me that things like this are even still happening in films because when we look at the track record of white people, we have been anything but the heroes. In coming to America, we wiped out an entire race of people that had actually been here before us. After wards, we captured slaves off of the coast of Africa because we had the weapons and the man power to do it. We forced them into slavery and then when it was finally all said and done we still gave them no rights. It took years just for black men to be given the opportunity to vote in this country. It took years just to allow women to vote in this country and the people in power throughout our nation’s history have always been white men. Why is this whole “White Messiah” thing possible then anyway? What white man has ever really been a hero? Fri, 5 Feb 2010 23:47:27 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/02/avatar-and-the-white-mans-burden__trashed/#IDComment55545128 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/01/i-guess-it-pays-to-learn-a-bit-about-other-people__trashed/#IDComment54285376 The fact that this actually happened leads me to believe that people need to become more educated about others. Others being people outside of their own race, religion and background. If the people of the world had been more informed of other religions and cultures, this may have never happened. There would have been no need to stop a flight after seeing a boy praying with tefillin if other cultures and religions were aware of what this is. However, at the fear of the unknown, the flight attendant even went up to the boy and asked what he was doing. He explained that he was simply praying and she still could not believe him. I find this a little outrageous. Maybe if she had asked him for more details about why he had the tefillin and what it was, this entire situation could have been avoided. I suppose it is more understandable considering the circumstances. Every American seems to be horrified of flying ever since 9/11 happened and the security in airports has risen drastically. However, considering this, shouldn’t the flight attendant have assumed that if this person had been carrying explosives that security may have noticed? Especially considering the article does not seem to have mentioned that his tefillin was hidden very well. After reading some of the responses from other students in the class, many of them seem to think that this was completely normal and that the airline took the right precautions. Part of me agrees with them simply because everyone in this country knows how outrageous air planes have become over the last several years. However, a part of me is still angered by how easily acceptable it is to everyone to have had a 17 year old boy in custody for praying. If the world were a little more informed of other cultures and religions, this practice would never have been questioned and the plane would have never had to land in Philadelphia, instead of its actual destination. I feel as though we are all making excuses for the airline to have had this boy and his sister in handcuffs. Yes, we are all scared of flying nowadays and yes there have been terrorist attacks leading to this fear. However, airlines see different kinds of people every single day. As such, I feel as if it is their responsibility to be slightly more knowledgeable about people of different cultures and religions so that a mistake like this will not happen again. Also, a word to the wise; it is never a good idea to bring anything onto an airplane that could be misleading in its appearance. Considering airlines won’t even let me bring a bottle of water onto the flight, I’m assuming something that appears to look like a cable is also a bad idea. Fri, 29 Jan 2010 00:33:45 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/01/i-guess-it-pays-to-learn-a-bit-about-other-people__trashed/#IDComment54285376 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/01/last-name-begins-with-s__trashed/#IDComment53878355 beast Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:34:44 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/01/last-name-begins-with-s__trashed/#IDComment53878355 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/01/clubbing-the-bejesus-out-of-rationality__trashed/#IDComment53464389 I find it slightly horrifying that there are actually people in America listening to the things Pat Robinson says. The man clearly has a few screws loose. At the very least, I am pleased to hear the outrage and disgust at the things that have come out of his mouth. As people are suffering in Haiti, I find it despicable to come up with reasons as to why, instead of attempting to help in any way possible. A tragedy has occurred and instead of trying to help, there are people placing the blame on those in need. I find it revolting. The thought of someone who considers themselves a Christian, walking around, blaming a natural disaster on “deals with the devil”, makes absolutely no sense. I thought Christians were supposed to be understanding and loving of all their brothers and sisters. Instead, Pat Robinson is blaming them for the tragedy that has led to hundreds of thousands of deaths. However, I do feel as though we are spending too much time focusing on the comments of others when it comes to Haiti. Simply by talking about their thoughts and statements, we are allowing their voices to be heard for far longer than they should be. By providing Pat Robinson with airtime and debates over his ridiculous claims, he is getting exactly what he wants; attention. The main focus of our efforts should not be wasted on a man who is clearly searching for the attention of the nation. The focus should be on the people of Haiti and any ways in which we can come together to help them. I have far more respect for the Americans actually going to Haiti to help with the devastation, or those supporting the people of Haiti through donations of any sort and kind. I am touched by the number military men and women who have already volunteered their time to go down to Haiti for the next several months. The destruction caused by the earthquake has already touched the lives of numerous people within Haiti and other nations of the world. As someone who has been to Haiti myself and seen how beautiful it was, the thought of what it must look like now is horrifying. Also, at the time of my visit, they were the second poorest nation in the world, with many of them begging for money and attempting to braid hair and sell their belongings for American dollars. It is clear that at a time like this, they need our help more than ever. If every single person in the United States were to donate just one dollar to the cause, the thought of simply how much this would help is baffling. I just wish people would stop focusing their efforts on idiots like Pat Robinson and started focusing on the real issue at hand; the people suffering in Haiti. Fri, 22 Jan 2010 22:23:06 +0000 https://www.racerelationsproject.org/2010/01/clubbing-the-bejesus-out-of-rationality__trashed/#IDComment53464389