en-us https://www.intensedebate.com/users/1361917 Comments by bookmike99 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment86289878 But it's true - and you know it. Hence why there was no denial - just a weak jab. Thanks for making my point. Mon, 12 Jul 2010 13:11:09 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment86289878 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment85191238 Yes, the dogs are a good start. That's being proactive. Stocking up on guns and ammo is being reactive. Do you understand the difference? These mystery thugs will choose the other house - the one without the dogs, the alarm, the motion sensors, etc. The thugs aren't coming though - I know you think they are, but I think you watch too much TV. And teaching your kids about all of these thugs that are going to break into your house with guns and shoot and kill you - no, that's not paranoia. Not at all. Tue, 6 Jul 2010 21:18:32 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment85191238 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment85181192 You're missing my point again. I'm not talking about deterring your guns - I'm talking about all of those home invaders that you're so paranoid about! Your goal should be to deter those guns from ever entering your home. If you don't want them invading your home with guns ablaze, then make it more difficult for them to do so! Be proactive, not reactive (hypothetically of course since these gun-toting home invaders are mostly just movie characters) The 2nd Amendment doesn't discuss gun safety. The 2nd Amendment doesn't talk about what would happen if a child witnesses his/her father shooting someone. The 2nd Amendment doesn't clean the blood off of your floors and walls. Tue, 6 Jul 2010 20:00:53 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment85181192 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment85166546 Don't be so defensive about your self-imposed "liberal code." Pickups just make more sense to me than compact Japanese imports. I guess I could have thrown out the conservative code and said Subaru - you know, the incredibly practical and reliable car brand that seems to bother some people out here. The lightning strikes do not surprise me. And for that, I now understand why you might be a little paranoid. So forgive me. Your house seems fairly secure - and I love the line about the stars. A good alarm system, some exterior lights, and good landscaping would help it be even more secure. The goal is for the guns not to come into your home. So by doing all of those things proactively, a murderous thief (with a gun) will choose a different house. But if you have no lights, no alarm, and trees that offer good hiding spots - a thief might think your house is a good one to enter. Naturally, you'll be right there to blow his head off though. And then you'll have all kinds of stains to clean and your kids will have nightmares forever. I'd rather deter the home invaders than invite them in. Sorry. Tue, 6 Jul 2010 18:22:43 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment85166546 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment85155123 Bad people exist alright - and plenty of them have legally purchased guns in their homes and pickups. I'm a big city boy - so being naive just doesn't exist in my DNA. I'm more of a realist - and stocking up for the fear of a home invasion just doesn't make sense. You're more likely to be hit by lightning or a falling tree. You know how you can be prepared? Move to a neighborhood with less crime. Maybe one with a quality police department. Install an alarm system that is connected directly to the aforementioned quality police department. Purchase your locks from reputable dealers and not the bargain basement ones at Walmart. Adopt a dog. Install motion detectors on your exterior lights. Just a few ideas on how you can be prepared. All of which fall short of owning deadly weapons that are more likely to be stolen or used inappropriately than used for your intended purpose. Tue, 6 Jul 2010 16:53:48 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment85155123 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment85152310 Sorry, but your argument for stocking up on guns and ammo is pure paranoia. The statistics tell us that armed home invasions are far fewer than you'd like to think. Feel free to live in fear. I'll leave my front door unlocked tonight in honor of you. Tue, 6 Jul 2010 16:29:42 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment85152310 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment85142373 You sound like the Holocaust deniers who claim without any proof that 6,000,000+ is an exaggerated number. Or the 9/11 conspiracy nuts who claim that the 3000+ is an exaggerated number. Everything was great in the Superdome. It was the media's fault again. But only the East Coast Liberal College Graduate Elite Media, right? Tue, 6 Jul 2010 15:19:18 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment85142373 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment85141838 You obviously have no interest in being part of the solution. That is why owning more guns is not helpful. It might make you feel better at night knowing that you have a weapon to kill people with - but it doesn't help society as a whole. Again, if you focused more of your energy on helping people and trying to make a difference in your community and less time preparing for the apocalypse, maybe your community would be in better shape. But naturally, you're either lazy, a hypocrite, or both. Tue, 6 Jul 2010 15:14:41 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment85141838 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment85140664 Firstly, he was deemed sane or else he would not have been executed. Secondly, I think plenty of the tea baggers are insane. Tue, 6 Jul 2010 15:05:24 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment85140664 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment84304207 Most gun deaths occur at the hands of governments? huh? Back to the whole the government is out to get us bit. Fri, 2 Jul 2010 19:32:46 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment84304207 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment84303245 Yeah one example who killed 168 Americans. One example who had others helping him. One example who has a whole following of clowns out there - many veterans, gun owners, and tea baggers among them. He's the perfect example for why some of those people SHOULD be on the terrorist watch lists. Timmy was a good old American boy - no one would have suspected him, right? He was a veteran! A member of the NRA! He also loved guns and going to gun shows. He also hated the "tyrannical government" - oh wait, so do the tea baggers. Yeah, there are no similarities. None at all. Fri, 2 Jul 2010 19:29:59 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment84303245 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment84300841 If the Bush/Dick administration had acted more efficiently in getting help to people who needed it, the gun issue wouldn't have been as big of a deal as it became. The problem was that Bush/Dick or Dick/Bush (however you like it) were so inept that they left those poor people to fend for themselves. What do you expect to happen under such circumstances? People get desperate. Fri, 2 Jul 2010 19:22:04 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment84300841 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment84299503 I know all about the Nazi scientists. I posted about it earlier. What I also know is that Switzerland knew about the Nazi money for decades before they finally admitted it in the late 1990's. I also know that the US knew what was happening in Europe for years before they actually did anything about it. But that doesn't change the fact that Switzerland is not the ideal it portrays itself to be. Fri, 2 Jul 2010 19:17:06 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment84299503 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment84297397 Because there are Republican politicians in cohoots with the gun lobby who will not allow tighter restrictions for said suspected terrorists or those with terrorist ties. And the people on this site continue to argue that point. That's why I keep asking the question. It sounds like common sense to me and to many other intelligent people out there who have been personally affected by acts of terrorism. Unfortunately, until the terrorists start blowing up "skyscrapers" in small towns with lots of gun-toting people, said people won't really know what is happening out there. Fri, 2 Jul 2010 19:09:50 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment84297397 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment84295722 sometimes it was shaken before it gets into your hands. And sometimes you inadvertently shake it and leave it for the next guy to explode in his face. Fri, 2 Jul 2010 19:03:52 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment84295722 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment84295460 So was Timmy McVeigh not a veteran? was he not a gun owner? was he not someone who hated America? Fri, 2 Jul 2010 19:03:11 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment84295460 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment84294829 It's completely relevant. Ignoring the track record of Switzerland when using it as an example is just a poor debating tactic. Fri, 2 Jul 2010 19:00:33 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment84294829 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment84294283 Did you ever think that those guns aren't originating in Chicago? Fri, 2 Jul 2010 18:58:57 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment84294283 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment84293485 Columbus is #55!!! 54 other cities have higher murder rates than your dear Columbus. But the reality is that not much happens out there in Columbus - relative to the other 54 cities of course. So the answer to the problem is to load up, right? No need trying to do anything else of course. Maybe you need to redirect your anger and try to help people as opposed to being afraid of them. Fri, 2 Jul 2010 18:56:13 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment84293485 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment84284592 I still think a proactive approach would be more productive. I agree that criminals should be prosecuted to a higher degree, but we also need to get to the root of the problem - and get these guns off the street BEFORE they are used to commit crimes. After the fact is too late. Fri, 2 Jul 2010 18:22:18 +0000 http://biggovernment.com/jwales/2010/07/01/judges-guns-and-money-i/#IDComment84284592